Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC][VOTE] PHP Namespace in core

2020-05-22 Thread Mark Randall 

On 22/05/2020 19:32, Rowan Tommins wrote:
* They might even prefer your RFC, which is still marked "Under 
Discussion": https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php_namespace_policy


Even though the two RFCs were seperate and created without each others 
knowledge, I don't know how people would feel about holding a similar 
one if this one was voted down.


If this one passed it was my intention to immediately vote on my own, 
which would change the policy to require sub-namespaces and limit it to 
autoloadable components.


Which wouldn't make sense if \PHP was still denied.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC][VOTE] PHP Namespace in core

2020-05-22 Thread Rowan Tommins 

On 22/05/2020 18:30, Mark Randall wrote:
Should this vote fail, \PHP effectively changes from a reserved 
namespace, to a dead namespace.



I don't see how you get from the text of this RFC to that conclusion.

There are a number of reasons why people who vote against this RFC might 
vote for an alternative, such as:


* They would prefer *more* classes to be in \PHP
* They would prefer fewer classes, but not none
* They would prefer a similar number of classes, but a different definition
* They would prefer a guideline with "should" or "may" rather than "must"
* They like the definition, but would prefer a plan to rename existing 
classes that meet it, for consistency (I don't have a vote, but I might 
well vote No on this basis)
* They would prefer a concrete proposal on how to structure the 
namespace, which this RFC explicitly is not
* They might even prefer your RFC, which is still marked "Under 
Discussion": https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php_namespace_policy



It is possible that "officially declare that we won't use the \PHP 
namespace" would get a majority, but that's not what this vote asks.



Regards,

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Rowan Tommins (né Collins)
[IMSoP]

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