Re: [IntSci] Transformation

2008-09-20 Thread David Waltner-Toews
digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: FW: Transformative change (David Waltner-Toews) From: David Waltner-Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: IntSci@learningforsustainability.net, Wendy Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elizabeth King [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply

Re: [IntSci] Transformative change

2008-09-18 Thread David Waltner-Toews
is sustainable (Bill Gates will have to come every generation vaccinate again because dependence has been created). So yes, the adjective is meaningful. David Waltner-Toews Department of Population Medicine University of Guelph http://www.ovc.uoguelph.ca/personal/ecosys Veterinarians without

Re: [IntSci] FW: Transformative change

2008-09-18 Thread David Waltner-Toews
Based on the last decade working on complexity international sustainable development health, I would concur with you, Elizabeth. We worked for 3-4 years in two wards of Kathmandu in the early 1990s - a lot of data gathered on parasites, health, animal slaughtering, human-dog relationships -

Re: [IntSci] Funding cakes, spirituality and management tools

2006-03-02 Thread David Waltner-Toews
Tools - Yes SSM (Checkland) and a variety of other systems approaches (see also the James Kay web page which is accessible through www.nesh.ca). Tim Allen, myself some others (eg Carl Folke in Sweden) have also been working on narratives as a way to integrate across scales epistemologies. This

Re: [IntSci] Vicki Getz and the gender perspective

2006-03-02 Thread David Waltner-Toews
Interesting - I worked for 2 years in Yogya in the mid 1980s. While they might have thought systemically at that time, it was very hard-wired systems - if everyone does what they are told, the system works. Gilberto Gallopin, Ernesto Raez-Luna, James Kay, myself several others talked about