Re: Hierarchical tag structure in SetFS

2007-03-02 Thread Sam Mason
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:23:03PM +, Tuomo Valkonen wrote: On 2007-03-01, Sam Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comments? I didn't bother to read all the technical explanation in detail, I thought it would be nice to have something concrete to discuss, but it was probably a bit early!

Re: Hierarchical tag structure in SetFS

2007-03-02 Thread Tuomo Valkonen
(Since the other message seems to have stuck in some queye, I'll just reply again here, although I should be replying to myself.) tuomov wrote: But having to use some arcane (numeric) identifiers for persistent access to files instead of their paths drifts too much away from unixland into

Re: Hierarchical tag structure in SetFS

2007-03-02 Thread Tuomo Valkonen
On 2007-03-02, Sam Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if I've moved too far away from your idea for the differences to be reconciled, I hope I haven't and we can bring things back together again. I think you're much closer to the usual metadata-based DB file systems than my approach,

Re: Hierarchical tag structure in SetFS

2007-03-02 Thread Sam Mason
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 01:06:44PM +, Tuomo Valkonen wrote: Come to think of it, perhaps people are going the wrong way about database file systems: implementing them on top of a conventional FS, giving useless names to the files under the database file system's control. Perhaps it would

Re: Hierarchical tag structure in SetFS

2007-03-02 Thread Sam Mason
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 01:51:51PM +, Tuomo Valkonen wrote: On 2007-03-02, Sam Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And how do you ensure that every program can interact with every file? Mounting the naming system somewhere in the global namespace? Or maybe URL-style stuff, if we didn't have

Re: Hierarchical tag structure in SetFS

2007-03-02 Thread Tuomo Valkonen
On 2007-03-02, Sam Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Things like tab completion and working directory only really work when you have something with similar semantics to a hierarchical file system and can afford to expose the interface. The concept of a directory does not really apply, but SetFS