Re: VirtualBox seamless mode

2009-05-29 Thread Timandahaf

On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Tuomo Valkonen wrote:


On 2009-04-10, Klaus Umbach treibholz-...@sozial-inkompetent.de wrote:

Just use VirtualBox in standard-fullscreen-mode on a separate Workspace.
That's the most acceptable pain.


No, that's Ion-in-cygwin-X-on-windows, after changing Mod1+Tab
to Mod1+Q in Ion. Integrates much better than a fully
keyboard-grabbing VM... albeit not perfectly :(.


What works best for me is to run VirtualBox's VRDP server, and use
rdesktop from Linux to interact with your VM, instead of using
VirtualBox's standard fullscreen mode. The biggest advantage of this (in
addition to things being snappier) is that 'rdesktop -K' will not do any
keyboard grabbing:


-K Do not override window manager key bindings.  By default rdesktop
attempts to grab all keyboard input when it is in focus. [1]

[1] rdesktop man page.




Re: VirtualBox seamless mode

2009-04-10 Thread Tuomo Valkonen
On 2009-04-09, Vladimir Skuratovich skuratov...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Is it possible to set up the VirtualBox 'seamless mode', where it is
 supposed to integrate with the window manager, so that the guest
 windows are managed by Ion? 

Does it create managed windows or just override-redirects?
I'd expect the latter, which are likely to then get hidden
under Ion's tiling.

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Re: VirtualBox seamless mode

2009-04-10 Thread Vladimir Skuratovich
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 05:59:01AM +, Tuomo Valkonen wrote:
  Is it possible to set up the VirtualBox 'seamless mode', where it is
  supposed to integrate with the window manager, so that the guest
  windows are managed by Ion?

 Does it create managed windows or just override-redirects?
 I'd expect the latter, which are likely to then get hidden
 under Ion's tiling.

It seems that all guest window are drawn inside one X window even in
'seamless mode', so probably the latter.

Maybe some other virtual machine is able to create a separate X window
for each window inside the guest OS?


Re: VirtualBox seamless mode

2009-04-10 Thread Klaus Umbach
On 10/04/09 20:07, Vladimir Skuratovich wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 05:59:01AM +, Tuomo Valkonen wrote:
   Is it possible to set up the VirtualBox 'seamless mode', where it is
   supposed to integrate with the window manager, so that the guest
   windows are managed by Ion?
 
  Does it create managed windows or just override-redirects?
  I'd expect the latter, which are likely to then get hidden
  under Ion's tiling.
 
 It seems that all guest window are drawn inside one X window even in
 'seamless mode', so probably the latter.
 
 Maybe some other virtual machine is able to create a separate X window
 for each window inside the guest OS?

Just use VirtualBox in standard-fullscreen-mode on a separate Workspace.
That's the most acceptable pain.

-
Klaus

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Our POP server was kidnapped by a weasel.


Re: VirtualBox seamless mode

2009-04-10 Thread Tuomo Valkonen
On 2009-04-10, Klaus Umbach treibholz-...@sozial-inkompetent.de wrote:
 Just use VirtualBox in standard-fullscreen-mode on a separate Workspace.
 That's the most acceptable pain.

No, that's Ion-in-cygwin-X-on-windows, after changing Mod1+Tab
to Mod1+Q in Ion. Integrates much better than a fully 
keyboard-grabbing VM... albeit not perfectly :(.

-- 
In 1995, Linux was almost a bicycle; an alternative way of live to the
Windows petrol beasts that had to be taken to the dealer for service.
By 2008, Linux has bloated into a gas-guzzler, and the cycle paths 
have been replaced with polluted motorways.