Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

[Ondrej Tomcik]

Dear JK,

Thank you and your team for bringing the IoTivity Native Cloud alive and for 
your contribution.
The OCF Native Cloud is the key component to guarantee interoperability with 
already available Cloud IoT solutions from Big-4. We have to make this step 
forward to make the IoTivity including OCF standard well-known and widely used.

Thanks.

Best Regards

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: Jee Hyeok Kim [mailto:jihyeok13@samsung.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 1:36 PM
To: DWARKAPRASAD DAYAMA; Tomcik Ondrej; 'Nathan Heldt-Sheller'; 'Max'; 
iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org
Cc: ABHISHEK PANDEY; 'LaBrecque, Margaret'
Subject: RE: Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers


Dear Members,



I'm pleased to announce that it's time to step out my position at IoTivity 
Cloud project.

At the beginning, it was very hard to convince IoTivity and OCF about this 
project's concept, protocol, architectue, implementations and so on.

And now, I found many requests about improvements and also enthusiastic 
contributer, Ondrej.

This is very good movement and it's time to move forward.
I'd like to recommend him to maintainer role.



Thanks to initial project members who helped settlement.



Best Regards

JK



- Original Message -

Sender : 드와르카  Staff Engineer/Open Source그룹(SR)/삼성전자

Date : 2018-06-14 14:32 (GMT+9)

Title : Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers


Hi Ondrej, Hi Nathan

JK is in touch with Ondrej as per my last communication with JK. He is trying 
to make sure required R&R is taken care before maintainer is changed. Thanks 
for your understanding.

Regards
Dwarka
-
Samsung Research | R&D Strategy Team | Open Source Group

From: iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org [mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org] 
On Behalf Of Ondrej Tomcik
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 1:51 PM
To: Nathan Heldt-Sheller; Max; Dwarkaprasad Dayama (dwarka.day...@samsung.com); 
iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org
Cc: 'ABHISHEK PANDEY'; LaBrecque, Margaret (margaret.labrec...@intel.com)
Subject: Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

Hello Nathan,
Thanks for your message. @Margaret informed me that it’s already in progress.

Let’s see!
Have a nice day.
BR

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org<mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org> 
[mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org] On Behalf Of Nathan Heldt-Sheller
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 6:34 AM
To: Max; Tomcik Ondrej; Dwarkaprasad Dayama 
(dwarka.day...@samsung.com<mailto:dwarka.day...@samsung.com>); 
iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org<mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org>
Cc: 'ABHISHEK PANDEY'
Subject: Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

Dwarka, Abhishek,

Can one of you please responds to Max’s email below?  I am not familiar enough 
with the state of CNC and Samsung’s future plans (if any) need to be considered 
before we hand maintainer for Cloud to another team.  Please provide your 
comment as soon as possible so we can proceed.

Thanks,
Nathan

From: iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org<mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org> 
[mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org] On Behalf Of Max
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:07 PM
To: Ondrej Tomcik 
mailto:ondrej.tom...@kistler.com>>; Dwarkaprasad 
Dayama (dwarka.day...@samsung.com<mailto:dwarka.day...@samsung.com>) 
mailto:dwarka.day...@samsung.com>>; 
iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org<mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org>
Subject: Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

Hi,

I hope we can nominate Ondrej as a new maintainer really soon.
Whatever are the reasons for the lack of activity of the current maintainers 
being listed, we need a solution.
We also started making patches on our own, to overcome bugs and issues.
This is a very bad situation for all of us who believe in open source projects.

Regards
Max


Max Kholmyansky
Software Architect - SURE Universal Ltd.
http://www.sureuniversal.com<http://www.sureuniversal.com/>




On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Ondrej Tomcik 
mailto:ondrej.tom...@kistler.com>> wrote:
Dear devs,

A month ago I started the discussion regarding the cloud project maintainers.
Short summary:

• Cloud is not maintained from release 1.3.0

• Cloud maintainers are not replying to messages

• Further development, roadmap – missing

In Apr 24 and May 30 I issued 2 merge requests from our patch repository. These 
are just the smallest and easiest ones. I didn’t receive any comment, nor 
message.
Don’t know how else should I point to the inactivity in this subproject.

My proposal is to take over the cloud subproject.
I would like to nominate myself as the maintainer and Peter Rafaj and Jozef 
Kralik as sub-maintainers. These guys are from the Kistler Instrumente AG – OCF 
member.
Our goal would be to:

• Stabilize c

Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

[Jee Hyeok Kim]

Dear Members,
 
I'm pleased to announce that it's time to step out my position at IoTivity Cloud project. 
At the beginning, it was very hard to convince IoTivity and OCF about this project's concept, protocol, architectue, implementations and so on.
And now, I found many requests about improvements and also enthusiastic contributer, Ondrej. 
This is very good movement and it's time to move forward.I'd like to recommend him to maintainer role.
 
Thanks to initial project members who helped settlement.
 
Best Regards
JK
 
- Original Message -
Sender : 드와르카  Staff Engineer/Open Source그룹(SR)/삼성전자
Date : 2018-06-14 14:32 (GMT+9)
Title : Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers
 

Hi Ondrej, Hi Nathan
 
JK is in touch with Ondrej as per my last communication with JK. He is trying to make sure required R&R is taken care before maintainer is changed. Thanks for your understanding.
 
Regards
Dwarka
-
Samsung Research | R&D Strategy Team | Open Source Group
 


From: iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org [mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org] On Behalf Of Ondrej TomcikSent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 1:51 PMTo: Nathan Heldt-Sheller; Max; Dwarkaprasad Dayama (dwarka.day...@samsung.com); iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.orgCc: 'ABHISHEK PANDEY'; LaBrecque, Margaret (margaret.labrec...@intel.com)Subject: Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers
 
Hello Nathan,
Thanks for your message. @Margaret informed me that it’s already in progress.
 
Let’s see!
Have a nice day.
BR
 

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate
 


From: iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org [mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org] On Behalf Of Nathan Heldt-ShellerSent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 6:34 AMTo: Max; Tomcik Ondrej; Dwarkaprasad Dayama (dwarka.day...@samsung.com); iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.orgCc: 'ABHISHEK PANDEY'Subject: Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers
 
Dwarka, Abhishek,
 
Can one of you please responds to Max’s email below?  I am not familiar enough with the state of CNC and Samsung’s future plans (if any) need to be considered before we hand maintainer for Cloud to another team.  Please provide your comment as soon as possible so we can proceed.
Thanks,Nathan
 
From: iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org [mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org] On Behalf Of MaxSent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:07 PMTo: Ondrej Tomcik <ondrej.tom...@kistler.com>; Dwarkaprasad Dayama (dwarka.day...@samsung.com) <dwarka.day...@samsung.com>; iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.orgSubject: Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers
 

Hi,

 

I hope we can nominate Ondrej as a new maintainer really soon.

Whatever are the reasons for the lack of activity of the current maintainers being listed, we need a solution.

We also started making patches on our own, to overcome bugs and issues. 

This is a very bad situation for all of us who believe in open source projects.

 

Regards

Max

 

 

Max Kholmyansky

Software Architect - SURE Universal Ltd.

http://www.sureuniversal.com
 

 

 

 

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Ondrej Tomcik <ondrej.tom...@kistler.com> wrote:



Dear devs,
 
A month ago I started the discussion regarding the cloud project maintainers.
Short summary:
· Cloud is not maintained from release 1.3.0
· Cloud maintainers are not replying to messages
· Further development, roadmap – missing
 
In Apr 24 and May 30 I issued 2 merge requests from our patch repository. These are just the smallest and easiest ones. I didn’t receive any comment, nor message.
Don’t know how else should I point to the inactivity in this subproject.
 
My proposal is to take over the cloud subproject.
I would like to nominate myself as the maintainer and Peter Rafaj and Jozef Kralik as sub-maintainers. These guys are from the Kistler Instrumente AG – OCF member.
Our goal would be to:
· Stabilize current solution with our patches
· Propose new scalable design fully compliant to the OCF Native Cloud Specification to the community
· Implementation of the OCF Native Cloud 
 
@Dwarka what are the next steps?


 
Thanks a lot.
 
 

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate
 


From: Macieira, Thiago [mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 9:14 PMTo: Tomcik Ondrej; Uze ChoiSubject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers
 
Start discussions in the ML about your objectives and start sending code. The maintainer has reported he’s still present so he’ll either review your submissions and participate in the discussion, or we’ll have to proceed to replace with someone who will (could be you).
 





From: Ondrej Tomcik <ondrej.tom...@kistler.com> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 7:21 AMTo: Uze Choi <uzc...@samsung.com>; Macieira, Thiago <thiago.macie...@intel.com>Su

Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

[Dwarkaprasad Dayama]

Hi Ondrej, Hi Nathan

 

JK is in touch with Ondrej as per my last communication with JK. He is trying 
to make sure required R&R is taken care before maintainer is changed. Thanks 
for your understanding.

 

Regards

Dwarka

-

Samsung Research | R&D Strategy Team | Open Source Group

 

From: iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org [mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org] 
On Behalf Of Ondrej Tomcik
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 1:51 PM
To: Nathan Heldt-Sheller; Max; Dwarkaprasad Dayama (dwarka.day...@samsung.com); 
iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org
Cc: 'ABHISHEK PANDEY'; LaBrecque, Margaret (margaret.labrec...@intel.com)
Subject: Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

 

Hello Nathan,

Thanks for your message. @Margaret informed me that it’s already in progress.

 

Let’s see!

Have a nice day.

BR

 

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

 

From: iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org [mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org] 
On Behalf Of Nathan Heldt-Sheller
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 6:34 AM
To: Max; Tomcik Ondrej; Dwarkaprasad Dayama (dwarka.day...@samsung.com); 
iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org
Cc: 'ABHISHEK PANDEY'
Subject: Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

 

Dwarka, Abhishek,

 

Can one of you please responds to Max’s email below?  I am not familiar enough 
with the state of CNC and Samsung’s future plans (if any) need to be considered 
before we hand maintainer for Cloud to another team.  Please provide your 
comment as soon as possible so we can proceed.


Thanks,
Nathan

 

From: iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org [mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org] 
On Behalf Of Max
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:07 PM
To: Ondrej Tomcik ; Dwarkaprasad Dayama 
(dwarka.day...@samsung.com) ; 
iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org
Subject: Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

 

Hi,

 

I hope we can nominate Ondrej as a new maintainer really soon.

Whatever are the reasons for the lack of activity of the current maintainers 
being listed, we need a solution.

We also started making patches on our own, to overcome bugs and issues. 

This is a very bad situation for all of us who believe in open source projects.

 

Regards

Max

 

 

Max Kholmyansky

Software Architect - SURE Universal Ltd.

 <http://www.sureuniversal.com/> http://www.sureuniversal.com

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Ondrej Tomcik  
wrote:

Dear devs,

 

A month ago I started the discussion regarding the cloud project maintainers.

Short summary:

· Cloud is not maintained from release 1.3.0

· Cloud maintainers are not replying to messages

· Further development, roadmap – missing

 

In Apr 24 and May 30 I issued 2 merge requests from our patch repository. These 
are just the smallest and easiest ones. I didn’t receive any comment, nor 
message.

Don’t know how else should I point to the inactivity in this subproject.

 

My proposal is to take over the cloud subproject.

I would like to nominate myself as the maintainer and Peter Rafaj and Jozef 
Kralik as sub-maintainers. These guys are from the Kistler Instrumente AG – OCF 
member.

Our goal would be to:

· Stabilize current solution with our patches

· Propose new scalable design fully compliant to the OCF Native Cloud 
Specification to the community

· Implementation of the OCF Native Cloud 

 

@Dwarka what are the next steps?

 

Thanks a lot.

 

 

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

 

From: Macieira, Thiago [mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 9:14 PM
To: Tomcik Ondrej; Uze Choi
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

 

Start discussions in the ML about your objectives and start sending code. The 
maintainer has reported he’s still present so he’ll either review your 
submissions and participate in the discussion, or we’ll have to proceed to 
replace with someone who will (could be you).

 

From: Ondrej Tomcik  
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 7:21 AM
To: Uze Choi ; Macieira, Thiago 
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

 

Hello Uze, Thiago,

 

Now I am bit puzzled what are the next steps. What is your opinion?

 

BR

 

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

 

From: Tomcik Ondrej 
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:23 AM
To: 'jihyeok13@samsung.com'; Uze Choi; thiago.macie...@intel.com
Cc: Daniel Park; Peter Moonki Hong
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

 

Hello.

 

We (Kistler Instrumente AG)  would welcome an option to maintain and develop 
further IoTivity Cloud, together with other contributors who are interested.

 

We have experts in the company as we are already building highly available and 
distributed systems. That’s why we need to enable the IoTivity to be highly 
available and scalable as well, as it is technology and standard we have chosen.

 

Thanks

 

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

 

From: Jee Hyeok 

Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

[Ondrej Tomcik]

Hello Nathan,
Thanks for your message. @Margaret informed me that it’s already in progress.

Let’s see!
Have a nice day.
BR

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org [mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org] 
On Behalf Of Nathan Heldt-Sheller
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 6:34 AM
To: Max; Tomcik Ondrej; Dwarkaprasad Dayama (dwarka.day...@samsung.com); 
iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org
Cc: 'ABHISHEK PANDEY'
Subject: Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

Dwarka, Abhishek,

Can one of you please responds to Max’s email below?  I am not familiar enough 
with the state of CNC and Samsung’s future plans (if any) need to be considered 
before we hand maintainer for Cloud to another team.  Please provide your 
comment as soon as possible so we can proceed.

Thanks,
Nathan

From: iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org [mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org] 
On Behalf Of Max
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:07 PM
To: Ondrej Tomcik ; Dwarkaprasad Dayama 
(dwarka.day...@samsung.com) ; 
iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org
Subject: Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

Hi,

I hope we can nominate Ondrej as a new maintainer really soon.
Whatever are the reasons for the lack of activity of the current maintainers 
being listed, we need a solution.
We also started making patches on our own, to overcome bugs and issues.
This is a very bad situation for all of us who believe in open source projects.

Regards
Max


Max Kholmyansky
Software Architect - SURE Universal Ltd.
http://www.sureuniversal.com<http://www.sureuniversal.com/>




On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Ondrej Tomcik 
mailto:ondrej.tom...@kistler.com>> wrote:
Dear devs,

A month ago I started the discussion regarding the cloud project maintainers.
Short summary:

• Cloud is not maintained from release 1.3.0

• Cloud maintainers are not replying to messages

• Further development, roadmap – missing

In Apr 24 and May 30 I issued 2 merge requests from our patch repository. These 
are just the smallest and easiest ones. I didn’t receive any comment, nor 
message.
Don’t know how else should I point to the inactivity in this subproject.

My proposal is to take over the cloud subproject.
I would like to nominate myself as the maintainer and Peter Rafaj and Jozef 
Kralik as sub-maintainers. These guys are from the Kistler Instrumente AG – OCF 
member.
Our goal would be to:

• Stabilize current solution with our patches

• Propose new scalable design fully compliant to the OCF Native Cloud 
Specification to the community

• Implementation of the OCF Native Cloud

@Dwarka what are the next steps?

Thanks a lot.


Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: Macieira, Thiago 
[mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com<mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com>]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 9:14 PM
To: Tomcik Ondrej; Uze Choi
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

Start discussions in the ML about your objectives and start sending code. The 
maintainer has reported he’s still present so he’ll either review your 
submissions and participate in the discussion, or we’ll have to proceed to 
replace with someone who will (could be you).

From: Ondrej Tomcik 
mailto:ondrej.tom...@kistler.com>>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 7:21 AM
To: Uze Choi mailto:uzc...@samsung.com>>; Macieira, Thiago 
mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com>>
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

Hello Uze, Thiago,

Now I am bit puzzled what are the next steps. What is your opinion?

BR

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: Tomcik Ondrej
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:23 AM
To: 'jihyeok13@samsung.com<mailto:jihyeok13@samsung.com>'; Uze Choi; 
thiago.macie...@intel.com<mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com>
Cc: Daniel Park; Peter Moonki Hong
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

Hello.

We (Kistler Instrumente AG)  would welcome an option to maintain and develop 
further IoTivity Cloud, together with other contributors who are interested.

We have experts in the company as we are already building highly available and 
distributed systems. That’s why we need to enable the IoTivity to be highly 
available and scalable as well, as it is technology and standard we have chosen.

Thanks

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: Jee Hyeok Kim [mailto:jihyeok13@samsung.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 8:56 AM
To: Tomcik Ondrej; Uze Choi; 
thiago.macie...@intel.com<mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com>
Cc: Daniel Park; Peter Moonki Hong
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers


Hello Ondrej,



Thank you for your advice and sorry about my irresponsible attitude.

I realized that important part of cloud feature is High Availability and 
Scalibility where IoTivity Cloud doesn't have.

To achive that cloud needs to be redesigned from bottom to top and need many 
expert's conrtibution where we are not ready for that.

(That's 

Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

[Nathan Heldt-Sheller]

Dwarka, Abhishek,

Can one of you please responds to Max’s email below?  I am not familiar enough 
with the state of CNC and Samsung’s future plans (if any) need to be considered 
before we hand maintainer for Cloud to another team.  Please provide your 
comment as soon as possible so we can proceed.

Thanks,
Nathan

From: iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org [mailto:iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org] 
On Behalf Of Max
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 12:07 PM
To: Ondrej Tomcik ; Dwarkaprasad Dayama 
(dwarka.day...@samsung.com) ; 
iotivity-dev@lists.iotivity.org
Subject: Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

Hi,

I hope we can nominate Ondrej as a new maintainer really soon.
Whatever are the reasons for the lack of activity of the current maintainers 
being listed, we need a solution.
We also started making patches on our own, to overcome bugs and issues.
This is a very bad situation for all of us who believe in open source projects.

Regards
Max


Max Kholmyansky
Software Architect - SURE Universal Ltd.
http://www.sureuniversal.com<http://www.sureuniversal.com/>




On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Ondrej Tomcik 
mailto:ondrej.tom...@kistler.com>> wrote:
Dear devs,

A month ago I started the discussion regarding the cloud project maintainers.
Short summary:

• Cloud is not maintained from release 1.3.0

• Cloud maintainers are not replying to messages

• Further development, roadmap – missing

In Apr 24 and May 30 I issued 2 merge requests from our patch repository. These 
are just the smallest and easiest ones. I didn’t receive any comment, nor 
message.
Don’t know how else should I point to the inactivity in this subproject.

My proposal is to take over the cloud subproject.
I would like to nominate myself as the maintainer and Peter Rafaj and Jozef 
Kralik as sub-maintainers. These guys are from the Kistler Instrumente AG – OCF 
member.
Our goal would be to:

• Stabilize current solution with our patches

• Propose new scalable design fully compliant to the OCF Native Cloud 
Specification to the community

• Implementation of the OCF Native Cloud

@Dwarka what are the next steps?

Thanks a lot.


Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: Macieira, Thiago 
[mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com<mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com>]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 9:14 PM
To: Tomcik Ondrej; Uze Choi
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

Start discussions in the ML about your objectives and start sending code. The 
maintainer has reported he’s still present so he’ll either review your 
submissions and participate in the discussion, or we’ll have to proceed to 
replace with someone who will (could be you).

From: Ondrej Tomcik 
mailto:ondrej.tom...@kistler.com>>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 7:21 AM
To: Uze Choi mailto:uzc...@samsung.com>>; Macieira, Thiago 
mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com>>
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

Hello Uze, Thiago,

Now I am bit puzzled what are the next steps. What is your opinion?

BR

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: Tomcik Ondrej
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:23 AM
To: 'jihyeok13@samsung.com<mailto:jihyeok13@samsung.com>'; Uze Choi; 
thiago.macie...@intel.com<mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com>
Cc: Daniel Park; Peter Moonki Hong
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

Hello.

We (Kistler Instrumente AG)  would welcome an option to maintain and develop 
further IoTivity Cloud, together with other contributors who are interested.

We have experts in the company as we are already building highly available and 
distributed systems. That’s why we need to enable the IoTivity to be highly 
available and scalable as well, as it is technology and standard we have chosen.

Thanks

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: Jee Hyeok Kim [mailto:jihyeok13@samsung.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 8:56 AM
To: Tomcik Ondrej; Uze Choi; 
thiago.macie...@intel.com<mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com>
Cc: Daniel Park; Peter Moonki Hong
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers


Hello Ondrej,



Thank you for your advice and sorry about my irresponsible attitude.

I realized that important part of cloud feature is High Availability and 
Scalibility where IoTivity Cloud doesn't have.

To achive that cloud needs to be redesigned from bottom to top and need many 
expert's conrtibution where we are not ready for that.

(That's reason we can not go further on current cloud implementation)

So my proposition is bring new well-known/concrete basement and add OCF 
specific features.



I'm sorry little bit late to response your message, hard to answer and also 
make direction.

Any other opinions are welcome.



Best Regards

JK



- Original Message -

Sender : Ondrej Tomcik 
mailto:ondrej.tom...@kistler.com>>

Date : 2018-05-08 15:39 (GMT+9)

Title : RE: Re: Cloud maintainers


Hello JK,

Tomorrow w

Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

[Max]

Hi,

I hope we can nominate Ondrej as a new maintainer really soon.
Whatever are the reasons for the lack of activity of the current
maintainers being listed, we need a solution.
We also started making patches on our own, to overcome bugs and issues.
This is a very bad situation for all of us who believe in open source
projects.

Regards
Max


Max Kholmyansky
Software Architect - SURE Universal Ltd.
http://www.sureuniversal.com




On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 9:48 PM, Ondrej Tomcik 
wrote:

> Dear devs,
>
>
>
> A month ago I started the discussion regarding the cloud project
> maintainers.
>
> Short summary:
>
> · Cloud is not maintained from release 1.3.0
>
> · Cloud maintainers are not replying to messages
>
> · Further development, roadmap – missing
>
>
>
> In Apr 24 and May 30 I issued 2 merge requests from our patch repository.
> These are just the smallest and easiest ones. I didn’t receive any comment,
> nor message.
>
> Don’t know how else should I point to the inactivity in this subproject.
>
>
>
> My proposal is to take over the cloud subproject.
>
> I would like to nominate myself as the maintainer and Peter Rafaj and
> Jozef Kralik as sub-maintainers. These guys are from the Kistler
> Instrumente AG – OCF member.
>
> Our goal would be to:
>
> · Stabilize current solution with our patches
>
> · Propose new scalable design fully compliant to the OCF Native
> Cloud Specification to the community
>
> · Implementation of the OCF Native Cloud
>
>
>
> @Dwarka what are the next steps?
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Ondrej Tomcik **:: **KISTLER **:: **measure, analyze, inovate*
>
>
>
> *From:* Macieira, Thiago [mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2018 9:14 PM
> *To:* Tomcik Ondrej; Uze Choi
> *Subject:* RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers
>
>
>
> Start discussions in the ML about your objectives and start sending code.
> The maintainer has reported he’s still present so he’ll either review your
> submissions and participate in the discussion, or we’ll have to proceed to
> replace with someone who will (could be you).
>
>
>
> *From:* Ondrej Tomcik 
> *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2018 7:21 AM
> *To:* Uze Choi ; Macieira, Thiago <
> thiago.macie...@intel.com>
> *Subject:* RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers
>
>
>
> Hello Uze, Thiago,
>
>
>
> Now I am bit puzzled what are the next steps. What is your opinion?
>
>
>
> BR
>
>
>
> *Ondrej Tomcik **:: **KISTLER **:: **measure, analyze, inovate*
>
>
>
> *From:* Tomcik Ondrej
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:23 AM
> *To:* 'jihyeok13@samsung.com'; Uze Choi; thiago.macie...@intel.com
> *Cc:* Daniel Park; Peter Moonki Hong
> *Subject:* RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers
>
>
>
> Hello.
>
>
>
> We (Kistler Instrumente AG)  would welcome an option to maintain and
> develop further IoTivity Cloud, together with other contributors who are
> interested.
>
>
>
> We have experts in the company as we are already building highly available
> and distributed systems. That’s why we need to enable the IoTivity to be
> highly available and scalable as well, as it is technology and standard we
> have chosen.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> *Ondrej Tomcik **:: **KISTLER **:: **measure, analyze, inovate*
>
>
>
> *From:* Jee Hyeok Kim [mailto:jihyeok13@samsung.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2018 8:56 AM
> *To:* Tomcik Ondrej; Uze Choi; thiago.macie...@intel.com
> *Cc:* Daniel Park; Peter Moonki Hong
> *Subject:* RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers
>
>
>
> Hello Ondrej,
>
>
>
> Thank you for your advice and sorry about my irresponsible attitude.
>
> I realized that important part of cloud feature is High Availability and
> Scalibility where IoTivity Cloud doesn't have.
>
> To achive that cloud needs to be redesigned from bottom to top and need
> many expert's conrtibution where we are not ready for that.
>
> (That's reason we can not go further on current cloud implementation)
>
> So my proposition is bring new well-known/concrete basement and add OCF
> specific features.
>
>
>
> I'm sorry little bit late to response your message, hard to answer and
> also make direction.
>
> Any other opinions are welcome.
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> JK
>
>
>
> - *Original Message* -
>
> *Sender* : Ondrej Tomcik 
>
> *Date* : 2018-05-08 15:39 (GMT+9)
>
> *Title* : RE: Re: Cloud maintainers
>
>
>
> Hello JK,
>
>
>
> Tomorrow we have a meeting together with Scott, where we will discuss few
> aspects of IoTivity cloud redesign.
>
> I will provide you more information tomorrow guys.
>
>
>
> Long story short:
>
> High level design idea from Scott point of view is good. That’s how we
> want to go on. But:
>
>
>
> Scott’s idea is to get rid of current cloud project in the IoTivity Cloud
> and integrate it based on specification into the Mainflux.
>
> I am not convinced yet as the effort which is needed is huge and I don’t
> see BIG added value of this technology stack change.
>
> PoC of the IoTivity Cloud is a good base. It needs some redesign, 

Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

[Ondrej Tomcik]

Dear devs,

A month ago I started the discussion regarding the cloud project maintainers.
Short summary:

· Cloud is not maintained from release 1.3.0

· Cloud maintainers are not replying to messages

· Further development, roadmap – missing

In Apr 24 and May 30 I issued 2 merge requests from our patch repository. These 
are just the smallest and easiest ones. I didn’t receive any comment, nor 
message.
Don’t know how else should I point to the inactivity in this subproject.

My proposal is to take over the cloud subproject.
I would like to nominate myself as the maintainer and Peter Rafaj and Jozef 
Kralik as sub-maintainers. These guys are from the Kistler Instrumente AG – OCF 
member.
Our goal would be to:

· Stabilize current solution with our patches

· Propose new scalable design fully compliant to the OCF Native Cloud 
Specification to the community

· Implementation of the OCF Native Cloud

@Dwarka what are the next steps?

Thanks a lot.


Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: Macieira, Thiago [mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 9:14 PM
To: Tomcik Ondrej; Uze Choi
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

Start discussions in the ML about your objectives and start sending code. The 
maintainer has reported he’s still present so he’ll either review your 
submissions and participate in the discussion, or we’ll have to proceed to 
replace with someone who will (could be you).

From: Ondrej Tomcik 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 7:21 AM
To: Uze Choi ; Macieira, Thiago 
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

Hello Uze, Thiago,

Now I am bit puzzled what are the next steps. What is your opinion?

BR

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: Tomcik Ondrej
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:23 AM
To: 'jihyeok13@samsung.com'; Uze Choi; 
thiago.macie...@intel.com
Cc: Daniel Park; Peter Moonki Hong
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

Hello.

We (Kistler Instrumente AG)  would welcome an option to maintain and develop 
further IoTivity Cloud, together with other contributors who are interested.

We have experts in the company as we are already building highly available and 
distributed systems. That’s why we need to enable the IoTivity to be highly 
available and scalable as well, as it is technology and standard we have chosen.

Thanks

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: Jee Hyeok Kim [mailto:jihyeok13@samsung.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 8:56 AM
To: Tomcik Ondrej; Uze Choi; 
thiago.macie...@intel.com
Cc: Daniel Park; Peter Moonki Hong
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers


Hello Ondrej,



Thank you for your advice and sorry about my irresponsible attitude.

I realized that important part of cloud feature is High Availability and 
Scalibility where IoTivity Cloud doesn't have.

To achive that cloud needs to be redesigned from bottom to top and need many 
expert's conrtibution where we are not ready for that.

(That's reason we can not go further on current cloud implementation)

So my proposition is bring new well-known/concrete basement and add OCF 
specific features.



I'm sorry little bit late to response your message, hard to answer and also 
make direction.

Any other opinions are welcome.



Best Regards

JK



- Original Message -

Sender : Ondrej Tomcik 
mailto:ondrej.tom...@kistler.com>>

Date : 2018-05-08 15:39 (GMT+9)

Title : RE: Re: Cloud maintainers


Hello JK,

Tomorrow we have a meeting together with Scott, where we will discuss few 
aspects of IoTivity cloud redesign.
I will provide you more information tomorrow guys.

Long story short:
High level design idea from Scott point of view is good. That’s how we want to 
go on. But:

Scott’s idea is to get rid of current cloud project in the IoTivity Cloud and 
integrate it based on specification into the Mainflux.
I am not convinced yet as the effort which is needed is huge and I don’t see 
BIG added value of this technology stack change.
PoC of the IoTivity Cloud is a good base. It needs some redesign, but from an 
effort point of view it cannot be compared with Scott’s solution.

So, I am still gathering more information to have a good basis for decision. A 
or B, or event C. We will make some proposals, discuss it also with CNCF group 
and Mainflux developers and decide.


But my main question is, how is it with Samsung and current maintenance team of 
IoTivity Cloud Project?
You’re often not responding – and you’re the only one from the team who will 
sometimes reply, and with big delay.
There is no update of IoTivity cloud from release of 1.3.0. No roadmap is 
provided, no information is available. OCF Cloud WG is inactive. I am very 
surprised that this is accepted in an open source project. No offence, I 
believe that team is working on different project and is not allocated for this 
one, but that’s no

Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

[Thiago Macieira]

On Tuesday, 29 May 2018 01:55:43 PDT Ondrej Tomcik wrote:
> Gentlemen,
> 
> Please I would appreciate at least an answer.
> 
> Also would like to ask you who is now lead architect of the IoTivity.
> Jinguk Jeong resigned June 9, 2017. So I really don’t know who to contact as
> this is out of date. https://wiki.iotivity.org/projects_and_functions

We don't have a lead architect at this time.

That should not stop you from posting your proposal and having it discussed.

-- 
Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com
  Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center




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Re: [dev] Cloud maintainers

[Ondrej Tomcik]

Gentlemen,

Please I would appreciate at least an answer.

Also would like to ask you who is now lead architect of the IoTivity.
Jinguk Jeong resigned June 9, 2017. So I really don’t know who to contact as 
this is out of date. https://wiki.iotivity.org/projects_and_functions

BR

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: Tomcik Ondrej
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 7:30 PM
To: Macieira, Thiago
Subject: Re: Cloud maintainers

Hi Thiago, would it be possible please? We are working on go-coap library for 
new cloud.We would like to support IoTivity community rather than starting own 
project.

Is it possible please?
Thanks
BR
Ondrej

On 24 May 2018, at 20:23, Tomcik Ondrej 
mailto:ondrej.tom...@kistler.com>> wrote:
Can you please create for me new project in iotivity, named go-coap ?

Thanks a lot.

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: Macieira, Thiago [mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 9:14 PM
To: Tomcik Ondrej; Uze Choi
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

Start discussions in the ML about your objectives and start sending code. The 
maintainer has reported he’s still present so he’ll either review your 
submissions and participate in the discussion, or we’ll have to proceed to 
replace with someone who will (could be you).

From: Ondrej Tomcik 
mailto:ondrej.tom...@kistler.com>>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 7:21 AM
To: Uze Choi mailto:uzc...@samsung.com>>; Macieira, Thiago 
mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com>>
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

Hello Uze, Thiago,

Now I am bit puzzled what are the next steps. What is your opinion?

BR

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: Tomcik Ondrej
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 10:23 AM
To: 'jihyeok13@samsung.com'; Uze Choi; 
thiago.macie...@intel.com
Cc: Daniel Park; Peter Moonki Hong
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers

Hello.

We (Kistler Instrumente AG)  would welcome an option to maintain and develop 
further IoTivity Cloud, together with other contributors who are interested.

We have experts in the company as we are already building highly available and 
distributed systems. That’s why we need to enable the IoTivity to be highly 
available and scalable as well, as it is technology and standard we have chosen.

Thanks

Ondrej Tomcik :: KISTLER :: measure, analyze, inovate

From: Jee Hyeok Kim [mailto:jihyeok13@samsung.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 8:56 AM
To: Tomcik Ondrej; Uze Choi; 
thiago.macie...@intel.com
Cc: Daniel Park; Peter Moonki Hong
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Cloud maintainers


Hello Ondrej,



Thank you for your advice and sorry about my irresponsible attitude.

I realized that important part of cloud feature is High Availability and 
Scalibility where IoTivity Cloud doesn't have.

To achive that cloud needs to be redesigned from bottom to top and need many 
expert's conrtibution where we are not ready for that.

(That's reason we can not go further on current cloud implementation)

So my proposition is bring new well-known/concrete basement and add OCF 
specific features.



I'm sorry little bit late to response your message, hard to answer and also 
make direction.

Any other opinions are welcome.



Best Regards

JK



- Original Message -

Sender : Ondrej Tomcik 
mailto:ondrej.tom...@kistler.com>>

Date : 2018-05-08 15:39 (GMT+9)

Title : RE: Re: Cloud maintainers


Hello JK,

Tomorrow we have a meeting together with Scott, where we will discuss few 
aspects of IoTivity cloud redesign.
I will provide you more information tomorrow guys.

Long story short:
High level design idea from Scott point of view is good. That’s how we want to 
go on. But:

Scott’s idea is to get rid of current cloud project in the IoTivity Cloud and 
integrate it based on specification into the Mainflux.
I am not convinced yet as the effort which is needed is huge and I don’t see 
BIG added value of this technology stack change.
PoC of the IoTivity Cloud is a good base. It needs some redesign, but from an 
effort point of view it cannot be compared with Scott’s solution.

So, I am still gathering more information to have a good basis for decision. A 
or B, or event C. We will make some proposals, discuss it also with CNCF group 
and Mainflux developers and decide.


But my main question is, how is it with Samsung and current maintenance team of 
IoTivity Cloud Project?
You’re often not responding – and you’re the only one from the team who will 
sometimes reply, and with big delay.
There is no update of IoTivity cloud from release of 1.3.0. No roadmap is 
provided, no information is available. OCF Cloud WG is inactive. I am very 
surprised that this is accepted in an open source project. No offence, I 
believe that team is working on different project and is not allocated for this 
one, but that’s not how it should be from open source project point of view