Re: [IPsec] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-11-30 Thread Paul Wouters
Ok, all good with me. Thanks Valery! Sent using a virtual keyboard on a phone > On Nov 30, 2022, at 12:03, Valery Smyslov wrote: > > We are converging :-) > >>> I'm a bit reluctant to add all this information to the abstract. It is >>> already a bit too long >>> (since Éric and Warren sugges

Re: [IPsec] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-11-30 Thread Valery Smyslov
We are converging :-) > > I'm a bit reluctant to add all this information to the abstract. It is > > already a bit too long > > (since Éric and Warren suggested to augment it with the explanation text of > > how > > this design helps in situation when PQ algorithms are less trusted). So > > cur

Re: [IPsec] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-11-30 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 30 Nov 2022, Valery Smyslov wrote: Yes I meant the abstract :) I'm a bit reluctant to add all this information to the abstract. It is already a bit too long (since Éric and Warren suggested to augment it with the explanation text of how this design helps in situation when PQ algorithm

Re: [IPsec] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-11-30 Thread Valery Smyslov
Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Hi Paul, Hi Valery @Paul Wouters <mailto:p...@nohats.ca> Many thanks for your thorough review of the draft, really appreciate that. Where to put the "Design Criteria" section has

Re: [IPsec] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-11-30 Thread Valery Smyslov
aft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple...@ietf.org; ipsecme-cha...@ietf.org; > ipsec@ietf.org WG; Tero Kivinen > Subject: Re: [IPsec] Paul Wouters' Discuss on > draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-10: (with DISCUSS and > COMMENT) > > On Tue, 29 Nov 2022, Valery Sm

Re: [IPsec] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-11-30 Thread CJ Tjhai
Hi Paul, Hi Valery @Paul Wouters Many thanks for your thorough review of the draft, really appreciate that. Where to put the "Design Criteria" section has been bothering me for quite a while. Personally, I prefer to have this section to be moved as an appendix. I'll update Valery's PR with this

Re: [IPsec] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-11-29 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 29 Nov 2022, Valery Smyslov wrote: ### IANA entries mentions in the Introduction ? Shouldn't the introduction mention this draft introduces the IKE_FOLLOWUP_KE Exchange and the STATE_NOT_FOUND Notify Message Type, along with additional entries to the (now renamed) Key Exchanges Method

Re: [IPsec] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-11-29 Thread Valery Smyslov
Hi Paul, thank you for your thorough review, please see inline. > -Original Message- > From: Paul Wouters via Datatracker [mailto:nore...@ietf.org] > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 12:09 AM > To: The IESG > Cc: draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple...@ietf.org; ipsecme-cha...@ietf.org; > i

Re: [IPsec] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-11-29 Thread Michael Richardson
Paul Wouters via Datatracker wrote: > Also RFC 5723 states: ``` The keys and cryptographic protection > algorithms should be at least 128 bits in strength. ``` IF we live in > Grover universe, perhaps that should be 256 bits in strength? And since > we are making things quantum s

[IPsec] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2022-11-28 Thread Paul Wouters via Datatracker
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