Re: [IPsec] draft-xu-ipsecme-esp-in-udp-lb-07

2021-07-15 Thread Bottorff, Paul
Hi Tobias:

The ports used for IKE packets would not be randomized since IKE would not use 
source port for LB and so should be stable at the NAT.

Cheers,

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Tobias Brunner  
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 1:36 AM
To: Bottorff, Paul ; Valery Smyslov 
; 'Tero Kivinen' ; 
antony.ant...@secunet.com; 'IPsec' 
Subject: Re: [IPsec] draft-xu-ipsecme-esp-in-udp-lb-07

Hi Paul,

> Instead, the responder should use the port received by the responder in the 
> IKE exchanges.

Note that if these packets have random source ports, this will only work if the 
NAT implementation plays along or there is static port forwarding configured.  
NATs might filter inbound packets from endpoints that don't equal the IP/port 
to which the host behind the NAT originally sent packets when the NAT mapping 
was created (address and port-dependent filtering in terms of RFC 4787).  I 
guess the same could happen in scenarios where there are no NATs but 
restrictive firewalls that block traffic from endpoints to which the host 
behind the firewall did not send traffic.

Regards,
Tobias
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[IPsec] Heads up on Netdev conf 0x15 - not too late to attend!

2021-07-15 Thread Daniel Migault
Hi,

For those that have not already attending Netdev, Netdev conf 0x15 has been
running since July 7 but it runs for 3 weeks but the talk sessions don't
start until Monday. As usual a lot of IETF relevant talks.
See: https://netdevconf.info/0x15/accepted-sessions.html

The fee is USD $50. Students(proof required) are 50% off.

The first 2 weeks was keynote, workshops and tutorials. You can replay all
the sessions you missed by entering the conference platform (registration
required).

The keynote was by Hari Balakrishnan, see:
https://netdevconf.info/0x15/session.html?keynote-balakrishnan

On Monday as well there will be an industry perspectives panel on smartnics
which will involve 6 vendors and an industry veteran moderating the session.

For registration go here:
https://netdevconf.info/0x15/virtual.html

Yours,
Daniel

-- 
Daniel Migault
Ericsson
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Re: [IPsec] draft-xu-ipsecme-esp-in-udp-lb-07

2021-07-15 Thread Tobias Brunner

Hi Paul,


Instead, the responder should use the port received by the responder in the IKE 
exchanges.


Note that if these packets have random source ports, this will only work 
if the NAT implementation plays along or there is static port forwarding 
configured.  NATs might filter inbound packets from endpoints that don't 
equal the IP/port to which the host behind the NAT originally sent 
packets when the NAT mapping was created (address and port-dependent 
filtering in terms of RFC 4787).  I guess the same could happen in 
scenarios where there are no NATs but restrictive firewalls that block 
traffic from endpoints to which the host behind the firewall did not 
send traffic.


Regards,
Tobias

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