RA DHCP problem...

2013-12-28 Thread Roger Jørgensen
Hi all, Here is my summary from an online discussion. We know this affect alot of different things, RFCs, documents, not to forget many religious views, but _try_ to put all that aside for a while... We all think it's time to address this reoccurring issue and discussion on RAs and DHCP. RA

Re: RA DHCP problem...

2013-12-28 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 28 Dec 2013, Roger Jørgensen wrote: supply default gateway independing of RAs or no RAs. That is a client should be able to get only in a IPv6 only network _if_ there is no RAs, only DHCP there. Why? What problem are you solving by changing the current behavior? DHCP must support

Re: RA DHCP problem...

2013-12-28 Thread Tarko Tikan
hey, Why? What problem are you solving by changing the current behavior? We propose to decouple DHCP from RA, view them as two different autoconfiguration protocols. Today you can't deploy DHCP without RA and this forces you to support/secure two protocols that mostly overlap. Personally

Re: RA DHCP problem...

2013-12-28 Thread Hannes Frederic Sowa
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 03:41:58PM +0100, Roger Jørgensen wrote: It should be possible to have a network running DHCP without any RA, if someone wants to do that. As far as I know, and you need RAs in todays world because DHCPv6 can not give out defaultroute. It break the standard if it

Re: RA DHCP problem...

2013-12-28 Thread Marco Sommani
On 28/dic/2013, at 17:36, Hannes Frederic Sowa han...@stressinduktion.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 03:41:58PM +0100, Roger Jørgensen wrote: It should be possible to have a network running DHCP without any RA, if someone wants to do that. As far as I know, and you need RAs in todays

Re: RA DHCP problem...

2013-12-28 Thread Hannes Frederic Sowa
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 05:57:14PM +0100, Marco Sommani wrote: On 28/dic/2013, at 17:36, Hannes Frederic Sowa han...@stressinduktion.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 03:41:58PM +0100, Roger Jørgensen wrote: It should be possible to have a network running DHCP without any RA, if

Re: RA DHCP problem...

2013-12-28 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 28 Dec 2013, Roger Jørgensen wrote: did you see the start of my mail? Yes. It should be possible to have a network running DHCP without any RA, if someone wants to do that. Why? Because I want to isn't a good technical answer. -- Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se