Re: Cost of IPv6 for IT operations team

2015-03-27 Thread Seth Mos
Op 27 mrt. 2015, om 00:23 heeft Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: On 26/03/2015 22:04, BERENGUER Christophe wrote: Hello everybody, I work for a consulting firm. For a client, I would like to estimate the work overload for IT operations team

Re: Cost of IPv6 for IT operations team

2015-03-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Without a detailed look at the client this kind of question falls in the realm of my kid's story problems in her mathematics book - pretty sounding things that are utterly divorced from reality. I will just say this, however: If you do NOT deploy IPv6 then yes it will save labor. Depending

RE: Cost of IPv6 for IT operations team

2015-03-27 Thread BERENGUER Christophe
Thanks everyone for your answers. We already have raise the point that at some point IPv6 will need to be deploy and the sooner is the better to have time to fix problems and let time for teams to master the technology. The 20% figure is based on an IETF document and SRI presentation. I think

Re: Cost of IPv6 for IT operations team

2015-03-27 Thread Brian E Carpenter
The 20% figure is based on an IETF document Which one? We can fix that if people think it's wrong. (This comes just too late for yesterday's v6ops meeting at the IETF in Dallas.) Regards Brian

RE: Cost of IPv6 for IT operations team

2015-03-27 Thread BERENGUER Christophe
Hi, I have found the figure in this document : https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lopez-v6ops-dc-ipv6-05#section-3.4 Regards, Christophe BERENGUER Consultant Fixe : +33 (0)1 49 03 85 86 christophe.bereng...@solucom.fr solucom Tour Franklin : 100 - 101 terrasse Boieldieu 92042 Paris La Défense

Re: Cost of IPv6 for IT operations team

2015-03-27 Thread Phil Mayers
On 26/03/15 09:04, BERENGUER Christophe wrote: Hello everybody, I work for a consulting firm. For a client, I would like to estimate the work overload for IT operations team to deploy IPv6 dual stack and for day to day operations. On the internet, I have found an estimation around 20% of

Re: Cost of IPv6 for IT operations team

2015-03-27 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Christophe, On 28/03/2015 01:56, BERENGUER Christophe wrote: Hi, I have found the figure in this document : https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lopez-v6ops-dc-ipv6-05#section-3.4 That is a very old and expired personal draft, not an IETF document. Very dangerous to rely on such a document.

Re: Cost of IPv6 for IT operations team

2015-03-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
I don't think that having things in the mix extends troubleshooting. My experience is that problems generally fall into 2 buckets: 1) Textbook ones (mistyped IP address, overload that's readily visible if they had looked at the reports, or like you said full hard disk) The time-suck in