RE: New IPv6 king of the hill: Switzerland?

2013-06-14 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson

On Wed, 22 May 2013, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote:

So, back to normal and Switzerland now 'ruling' the IPv6 world with 
9.47% vs. Romania which is now number 2 with 8.63% (and I do not talk 
here about the eurovision song contest of course ;-))


http://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/compare.php?metric=pcountries=ch,us,de,fr,ro,se 
still showing CH in the lead.


Do we have any insights from within Swisscom? Have they seen any problems 
reported to their customer service? Sharing of experience would be really 
helpful in trying to convince other organisations that enabling dual stack 
for end users is safe and is not going to cause a storm of complaints to 
customer service.


--
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se


RE: New IPv6 king of the hill: Switzerland?

2013-06-14 Thread Guillaume.Leclanche
 Do we have any insights from within Swisscom? Have they seen any
 problems reported to their customer service? Sharing of experience would
 be really helpful in trying to convince other organisations that enabling dual
 stack for end users is safe and is not going to cause a storm of complaints 
 to
 customer service.

I don't have customer service stats/feedback, but I've not heard anything at 
all from the project team regarding customer issues. That doesn't mean that 
there aren't any, though. I admit that this is not a very valuable feedback :)

It's interesting to remark that there is a very good availability of customer 
IPv6-enabled end-devices at home, so that part is definitely out of the 
chicken-and-egg problem. The ~10% value displayed by Switzerland is quite close 
to the maximum expected value if we take in consideration our market share and 
the percentage of customers we have enabled. It proves that the efforts 
especially from Google, Apple, and Microsoft have had very good results.

Guillaume 



Re: New IPv6 king of the hill: Switzerland?

2013-06-14 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 09:41:18AM +, guillaume.leclan...@swisscom.com 
wrote:
 It's interesting to remark that there is a very good availability
 of customer IPv6-enabled end-devices at home, so that part is
 definitely out of the chicken-and-egg problem. The ~10% value
 displayed by Switzerland is quite close to the maximum expected
 value if we take in consideration our market share and the percentage
 of customers we have enabled. It proves that the efforts especially
 from Google, Apple, and Microsoft have had very good results.

Can you share what CPEs you are using, and how you provision 6rd there?

Genuinely curious...

Gert Doering
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RE: New IPv6 king of the hill: Switzerland?

2013-06-14 Thread Guillaume.Leclanche
 Can you share what CPEs you are using, and how you provision 6rd there?

We use mostly the Centro grande family CPEs 
(http://www.swisscom.ch/en/residential/help/downloads/inhalt/internet/centro-grande.html).
 They are personalized designs and software built by ADB Broadband and Motorola 
Home/Arris.

The IPv6 can be enabled either remotely via TR69 or the customer can use the 
self-service web portal to enable/disable the feature. We do not have the 
feature to disable IPv4 yet ;)

Any CPE that has the 6rd feature can also be used if the customer knows how to 
configure it.

Guillaume




Re: New IPv6 king of the hill: Switzerland?

2013-05-21 Thread Jan Schaumann
Tore Anderson t...@fud.no wrote:
 Just noticed that Switzerland's IPv6 deployment level (according to
 Google) has been skyrocketing lately, anyone know if this is just an
 outlier or something real and big going on?
 
 http://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/compare.php?metric=pcountries=ch

Interesting.  I also noted a significant jump in the US starting
approximately the same date, while France, Romania, and Germany appear to have
dropped off around the same time:
http://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/compare.php?metric=pcountries=ch,us,de,fr,ro

Did something get turned on/off during RIPE66?  Too much guinness?

-Jan


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RE: New IPv6 king of the hill: Switzerland?

2013-05-21 Thread Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
There is indeed a noticeable change in the Google IPv6 statistics (my web site 
is only an graphical layer on their data) with a generalized drop in all 
countries except US, Switzerland (but SwissCom has made a recent major move!) 
and Peru (Telefonica -- dixit WV6L web site -- appears to deploy a lot of IPv6 
:-)). The drop affects too many countries (including my own Belgium!) so it 
must be a change in the way statistics are collected/processed.

Let's wait until Erik  Lorenzo chime in for more explanations

-éric

 -Original Message-
 From: ipv6-ops-bounces+evyncke=cisco@lists.cluenet.de [mailto:ipv6-ops-
 bounces+evyncke=cisco@lists.cluenet.de] On Behalf Of Jan Schaumann
 Sent: mardi 21 mai 2013 17:17
 To: ipv6-ops@lists.cluenet.de
 Subject: Re: New IPv6 king of the hill: Switzerland?
 
 Tore Anderson t...@fud.no wrote:
  Just noticed that Switzerland's IPv6 deployment level (according to
  Google) has been skyrocketing lately, anyone know if this is just an
  outlier or something real and big going on?
 
  http://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/compare.php?metric=pcountries=ch
 
 Interesting.  I also noted a significant jump in the US starting
 approximately the same date, while France, Romania, and Germany appear to
 have dropped off around the same time:
 http://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/compare.php?metric=pcountries=ch,us,de,fr,
 ro
 
 Did something get turned on/off during RIPE66?  Too much guinness?
 
 -Jan


Re: New IPv6 king of the hill: Switzerland?

2013-05-21 Thread Arturo Servin

Yes, we did.

1.8% today I guess, far away to the second place in LAC with just
0.03-0.04%.

Regards,
as

On 5/21/13 10:43 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote:
 In the same vein, did you notice Peru? Still 'low' at 1% but climbing 
 linearly since early 2013 :)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ipv6-ops-bounces+evyncke=cisco@lists.cluenet.de [mailto:ipv6-ops-
 bounces+evyncke=cisco@lists.cluenet.de] On Behalf Of Tore Anderson
 Sent: mardi 21 mai 2013 14:58
 To: ipv6-ops@lists.cluenet.de
 Subject: New IPv6 king of the hill: Switzerland?

 Just noticed that Switzerland's IPv6 deployment level (according to
 Google) has been skyrocketing lately, anyone know if this is just an outlier
 or something real and big going on?

 http://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/compare.php?metric=pcountries=ch

 $ google-ipv6-adoption.pl
 Pos  IPv6%   Country
 ===
 19.47%   Switzerland
 28.63%   Romania
 34.99%   France
 44.65%   Luxembourg
 53.25%   Bhutan
 [...]

 Tore