[IRCA] TP 17 Jul Victoria version.

2018-07-17 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
a bit of Asian audio, otherwise, the summer doldrums continue pretty darn good audio (all of it understandable by a native speaker, at least briefly): nope Reasonable audio at times during the period (much of it understandable by a native speaker, though often battling w/splash or

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
But come on, It's HD... hiss hiss.. dx'ers hate it and if it's all digital and doesnt go far past the carrier frequency, DX'ers cant complain about it over and over :) Paul On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Chuck Hutton wrote: > No, its very different because there's no need to avoid

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Chuck Hutton
No, its very different because there's no need to avoid bothering the analog part. Currently the hybrid system puts a lot of IBOC energy far from the analog carrier where it bothers adjacent analog carriers. The all digital system can put more energy around the carrier frequency as it won't

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Neil Kazaross
Is this full IBOC still going to be the off channel crap we've suffered with for many years or will it be on channel? 73 KAZ On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Chuck Hutton wrote: > Ill suggest a more mundane reason. > > Ibiquity is headquartered in Germantown MD and just like they did their >

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Chuck Hutton
Ill suggest a more mundane reason. Ibiquity is headquartered in Germantown MD and just like they did their experimental tests for hybrid mode not too far away, they are now doing their full IBOC tests nearby. Chuck From: IRCA on behalf of Les Rayburn

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Les Rayburn
Ah, I understand now. I suppose it makes sense as a technical test. Washington, DC is “worst case” scenario in terms of multi path, signal obstructions, etc. If it performs well there, it should do even better in most locations. We have a client in DC and get there often. I’m supposed to be

Re: [IRCA] Summer DXing (was: [CapeDX] When it Rains it pours)

2018-07-17 Thread Gary DeBock
<<< Basically, as some of us know, if you can avoid static-crash nights, there is still a lot of DX to be heard in the heart of summer. This is especially true when talking about southerly targets enjoying greater length of darkness. Not sure how the whole "DX season" thing got started. I

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Scott Fybush
Some of this I can answer even before interviewing Dave - the format is called "The Gamut," which is a true "we play everything" variety mix that goes back as far as the 1940s. It's been running on WWFD for the last few years, as well as on HD2 subs of co-owned WTOP in Washington and its FM

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Les Rayburn
Scott, Thank you for this opportunity. I’m interested in knowing what format WWFD currently runs, and if they plan to change or modify the format to fit the “All Digital” operation. Also, do they plan to promote the “All Digital” format within the market? How are they going to promote it?

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Powell E. Way III via IRCA
--- Begin Message --- On Tuesday, July 17, 2018, 9:02:25 AM EDT, Russ Johnson wrote: Let’s hope so. I was unimpressed even with HD FM coverage. Too many drop outs.  Power is 10% of analog at best.   Is 1500 in DC still iboc? NO, not at night anyway Powell --- End

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Scott Fybush
On 7/17/2018 2:03 PM, Chuck Hutton wrote: But I'm unaware as to whether all digital IBOC has FCC approval. As a regular licensed mode of operation, no...which is exactly why Hubbard and the HD Radio folks are conducting this test under experimental authority. I'm going to be interviewing

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Russ Edmunds
AFAIK it doesn't. And it may not be installed anyway. I think this is a gimmick to see what happens. But with listeners realizing they can go to 94.3 ( and get better coverage anyway ). Russ Edmunds 15 mi NW Phila Grid FN20id AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip FM: Yamaha T-80

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Chuck Hutton
Is it? Since they have no analog, there's no reason for them to use the hybrid mode of IBOC which has both analog and digital. That is what causes the interference to adjacent chanbnels and limits the IBOC coverage a bit. If they use the all digital mode, there are different expectations

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Brett Saylor
Looking at their pattern WWFD's "local" coverage spans the I-270 corridor from Frederick to Germantown; inside the beltway would be "distant." I presume the digital signal will only be effective on that ~20 mile stretch of interstate and that they are targeting the morning and evening drive

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Les Rayburn
Russ, Not at all. I get all that. My point is that if an all HD format on AM is viable economically anywhere in the US, then Washington, DC is that market. It’s highly affluent, highly mobile, and populated by an older than average, more educated than average audience. News format stations

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Russ Edmunds
Les, I think the point you miss here is that this station was a rimshot as an analog for the DC market and the HD signal won't hold in DC anyway Russ Edmunds WB2BJH Blue Bell, PA Grid FN20id From: IRCA on behalf of Paul B. Walker, Jr. Sent: Tuesday, July

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
I think, as a DX'er and broadcaster.. HD would've been a bit more viable if you could've gotten HD locking without needing such robust signals and find a way to have it not interfere with other stations. I've heard HD on AM, I've heard DRM on Shortwave I used to listen to Radio Kuwait

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Les Rayburn
Russ, I agree with your prediction, but do want to play Devil’s Advocate. (Why the devil needs an advocate since his fan base is huge is beyond me, but I digress.) AM listenership within the DC market is high compared to most others. Traffic, news, and specialized political news formats

Re: [IRCA] Summer DXing (was: [CapeDX] When it Rains it pours)

2018-07-17 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
Thanks for passing Roy's loggings on Mark, plus his noting that Mauritania may not be on. I've been doing some summer TA hunting here in western Canada, and 783 would seem an obvious target, as I've at least detected a carrier from 936 with the right offset for Agadir. But, no sign of

[IRCA] Summer DXing (was: [CapeDX] When it Rains it pours)

2018-07-17 Thread Mark Connelly via IRCA
--- Begin Message --- Basically, as some of us know, if you can avoid static-crash nights, there is still a lot of DX to be heard in the heart of summer. This is especially true when talking about southerly targets enjoying greater length of darkness. Not sure how the whole "DX season" thing

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread David Faulkner via IRCA
--- Begin Message --- Hi All: Sounds to me like if they want to ruin broadcast radio they're going about it the right way. That includes FM, where they're jamming so many signals on the air even locals are had to listen to while driving, especially if there's the least bit of skip. Granted,

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Mark Mobile
It's not WWFD 820; it's "WWFD 800--810--820--830--840" :-)) Cheers! Mark Durenberger, mobile -Original Message- From: Russ Johnson Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:46 AM To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Russ Johnson
Thanks for the update Brett On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:31 AM Brett Saylor wrote: > 1500 WFED isn't on IBOC right now, and I don't recall it being on any time > recently. According to Barry's site it's been off since 2007. > > I just checked my overnight recordings and 820 is solid IBOC hash from

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Brett Saylor
1500 WFED isn't on IBOC right now, and I don't recall it being on any time recently. According to Barry's site it's been off since 2007. I just checked my overnight recordings and 820 is solid IBOC hash from 815 to 825 kHz, from sunset to sunrise. I can get around most IBOC noise by tuning the

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Russ Johnson
Let’s hope so. I was unimpressed even with HD FM coverage. Too many drop outs. Is 1500 in DC still iboc? Russ Johnson Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Russ Edmunds wrote: > > There will now be just digital hash where the AM signal would have been. > But the rush into

Re: [IRCA] WWFD 820 Becomes First All-Digital AM Station

2018-07-17 Thread Russ Edmunds
There will now be just digital hash where the AM signal would have been. But the rush into this ignores some important points - 1. How many car radios are capable of receiving these transmissions ? My understanding was that carmakers were reducing, not increasing the HD capability as standard

[IRCA] TP 16 Jul Victoria version.

2018-07-17 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
not too exciting this morning pretty darn good audio (all of it understandable by a native speaker, at least briefly): nope Reasonable audio at times during the period (much of it understandable by a native speaker, though often battling w/splash or noise): nope... not so