Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-07 Thread STEVE
The John Bryant article on "over the shoulder" can be found at: He does not test BOGs in his article, though. As a probably unrelated note, when I lived at the rural place in Oregon I had a 1600' E/W unterminated longwire that

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-07 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
5 to 10 dB. Chuck From: IRCA on behalf of Nick Hall-Patch Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 5:33 PM To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] BOG question Thanks Chuck; I knew I could bring you out of the woodwork. Ther

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-07 Thread Chuck Hutton
s was some 5 to 10 dB. Chuck From: IRCA on behalf of Nick Hall-Patch Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 5:33 PM To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] BOG question Thanks Chuck; I knew I could bring you out of the woodwork. There's been a fair bit of h

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-06 Thread Mark Connelly via IRCA
--- Begin Message --- I find it interesting that a very similar BOG / receiving antenna discussion is also going on with the Topband reflector. There's a fair amount of belief that terminated loops in a phased array or just a single double loop style (DHDL, DKAZ, Bowtie, Waller Flag) can

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-06 Thread Russ Edmunds
Russ Edmunds WB2BJH Blue Bell, PA Grid FN20id From: IRCA on behalf of Nick Hall-Patch Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 8:33:49 PM To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] BOG question Thanks Chuck; I knew I

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-06 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
; h Walter Salmaniw Subject: Re: [IRCA] BOG question Have you had success terminating a BOG Russ? (supposedly it is ~200 ohms, rather than the raised Beverage's ~450 ohms). I think some have found that it is self terminating, to a degree, as there is quite a bit of loss on reflected signals. best w

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-06 Thread Russ Edmunds
, 2018 7:18:49 PM To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] BOG question I don't see the self-terminating thing. It seems to me (unscientifically) that the losses are maybe 5 to 7 dB. That's a far cry from the 30 or more dB loss in a properly terminated

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-06 Thread Chuck Hutton
, November 6, 2018 3:54 PM To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America; h Walter Salmaniw Subject: Re: [IRCA] BOG question Have you had success terminating a BOG Russ? (supposedly it is ~200 ohms, rather than the raised Beverage's ~450 ohms). I think some have found that it is self

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-06 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
for the International Radio Club of America; Walter Salmaniw Subject: Re: [IRCA] BOG question Dumb question --- Do BOG's get a termination? On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 11:52 AM Volodya S wrote: > Stephen, my BOGs in Masset are about 750' long and I'm very pleased. Good > for all Asia a

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-06 Thread Russ Edmunds
for the International Radio Club of America; Walter Salmaniw Subject: Re: [IRCA] BOG question Dumb question --- Do BOG's get a termination? On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 11:52 AM Volodya S wrote: > Stephen, my BOGs in Masset are about 750' long and I'm very pleased. Good > for all Asia as well as Austral

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-06 Thread R. Colin Newell
Dumb question --- Do BOG's get a termination? On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 11:52 AM Volodya S wrote: > Stephen, my BOGs in Masset are about 750' long and I'm very pleased. Good > for all Asia as well as Australia/New Zealand.73, Walt > > -- Colin Newell - Editor and creator *of *Coffeecrew.com

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-06 Thread Volodya S
Stephen, my BOGs in Masset are about 750' long and I'm very pleased. Good for all Asia as well as Australia/New Zealand.73, Walt On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:38 PM Stephen Hawkins wrote: > IRCA, > > BOG users, how long do you make yours? I keep hearing from other Hams > that for 160m between

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-06 Thread Russ Edmunds
160 meters, being above the AM/MW band could be effective at somewhat shorter distances than for AM/MW, but 150-200' isn't really a BOG ( Beveridge on Ground ) it's a longwire. A BOG needs to be upwards of 500' I would think. I've used BOG's on MW/AM ranging anywhere from 500' to 1200'. The main

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-06 Thread Brett Saylor
I've used BOGs that were 800 - 1000 feet on MW, and they worked very well. Brett Saylor W3SWL On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 7:38 AM Stephen Hawkins wrote: > IRCA, > > BOG users, how long do you make yours? I keep hearing from other Hams > that for 160m between 150 to 200 feet. I seem to remember

[IRCA] BOG question

2018-11-06 Thread Stephen Hawkins
IRCA, BOG users, how long do you make yours?  I keep hearing from other Hams that for 160m between 150 to 200 feet.  I seem to remember hearing on here about some that were much longer. Thanks, Steve -- Stephen Hawkins NG0G n...@arrl.net 73 49 111 01001001

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2009-12-05 Thread Rick Kunath
On Friday 04 December 2009 01:01:39 pm Nick Hall-Patch wrote: Both radios have two terminals, which one would I put the end of the BOG into (not using coax)? An old Hallicrafters that I had as a kid had a similar A1 / A2 setup and a little metal blade that would short out A2, if desired.

[IRCA] BOG question

2009-12-04 Thread HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS
Let me ask this again: I've been toying with the idea of getting 5-600' of wire and hooking it to either my old DX-400 or newer S-350 and heading to the soccer fields, near work. I do understand that both radios have built in antennas and that it would interject some signals too but at least I

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2009-12-04 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
At 17:15 12/4/2009, you wrote: Let me ask this again: I've been toying with the idea of getting 5-600' of wire and hooking it to either my old DX-400 or newer S-350 and heading to the soccer fields, near work. I do understand that both radios have built in antennas and that it would interject

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2009-12-04 Thread neilkaz
david.hasc...@dfas.mil Sent: Dec 4, 2009 12:15 PM To: a...@lists.wtfda.info, irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] BOG question Let me ask this again: I've been toying with the idea of getting 5-600' of wire and hooking it to either my old DX-400 or newer S-350 and heading to the soccer fields, near

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2009-12-04 Thread HASCALL, DAVID CIV DFAS
for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com, a...@lists.wtfda.info, irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] BOG question Message-ID: 29880907.1259950589916.javamail.r...@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.n et Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Forgive me

Re: [IRCA] BOG question

2009-12-04 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
At 19:51 12/4/2009, you wrote: Nick - on the 400 I think just one would be used for an unbalanced antenna and both would be used for a balanced input, like my old Sanserino. Just not sure what to do with the unused terminal, if I was just using one, as an unbalanced BOG. Again, if A2 is