Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-28 Thread Patrick Martin
KAZ, Right you are. IBOC will not make listeners walk from AM radio, but run... Bob's sister brother in law (not DXers), will not listen to any station with static or fading. I have an idea many are like that. IBOC will kill AM radio if it becomes a reality. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-28 Thread Russ Edmunds
--- Powell E. Way III W4OPW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Mike McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK -- So lets get back on topic. --- Who thinks it's good for DXing -- to see the Downgrading of the clear channels -- into regional channels -- without the protection -- just so

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Hi Bill, I have heard all three CA stations on 1510. Fresno is the most common almost heard every LSS, The old KTIM and a zillion other calls, they were common with 1 KW daytimer. Now with a directional pattern they are much less common. In the Winter I hear UT also. CO TN when KGA has been off.

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Bill, Well it wont be the first great old station that was downgaded. WOWO 1190 was because WLIB wanted more power. It all comes down to money. Few care about the history of a station. All they care about is the money. So expect more in the future. So many old neat stations in Canada have moved

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Scott Fybush
Powell E. Way III W4OPW wrote: --- Bill Harms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick: Maybe from a financial point of view this kind of thing might make sense for the new owners. VERY short sighted sense. They will be getting a crippled station. A downgrade to B means that night power

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Deane McIntyre
Here in Calgary I can receive KGA on a crystal set any night that conditions are decent. Almost always the strongest signal of any US station at night (during the day, KMON-560 has the strongest US signal into Calgary). 73, Deane McIntyre VE6BPO ___

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Geralyn Hollerman
Folks, I'm willing to let this topic proceed for a while in the interest of a dialog between a broadcaster and DXers, but please, watch your language. The whole thing has the potential to move into a flame war, and if that's the case and you all can't play nice, the topic gets moderated. Lynn.

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Paul LaFreniere
The Boss has spoken!! Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: : You DX'ers need to stop acting and thinking like the broadcasting community owes you something, it DOESN'T! Paul A. LaFreniere, Jr. wrote: I was sure this was a list for DXers. If you don't like what the DXers say on this list, get the hell

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Mike McKenna
Paul -- I was under the impression that the IRCA was a club for persons that enjoy the hobby of Dxing. Am I in the wrong place ???I have been in the broadcast and radio business for over 40 years. I have even built and owned a few broadcast stations. The radio spectrum is a natural

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Mike McKenna
Yup. It seems that the only thing that AM radio is today -- is a lot of talk -- talk -- talk and all of the programs are the same. You can offer your yes or no --but all of you seem to be missing the bottom line. While Patrick might be able to hear a few more stations -- on 1510 --

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread longwave
Well here's one way to reply The Wrong Wayon the other hand when say a Scott Fybush responds with a thoughtful and non-belligerent answer its worth reading. Paul your love of radio is wonderful but this isn't the first time you've had issues on a radio mailing list. I suggest you

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Bill Harms
Hi Patrick: I have been scouring over old FCC records at the National Archives for the past several weeks. When the stations were originally licensed, there was a high emphasis placed on serving the public interest and that meant being involved in the local and regional communities. Many

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Patrick Griffith, N0NNK / WPE9HVW
Lynn said: Folks, I'm willing to let this topic proceed for a while in the interest of a dialog between a broadcaster and DXers, but please, watch your language. The whole thing has the potential to move into a flame war, and if that's the case and you all can't play nice, the topic gets

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
Thanks for assuming all AM stations run bland, boring talk that's a mere assumption and shows ya really don't like AM much and ar ejust grumpy HD and other technology is ruining your precious hobby. Why is it up to you to decide if downgrading WOWO or KGA is wrong? It's not. Its up to the

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Tim Kridel
Broadcasters will never own the radiowaves. Sure they do. Look at how rarely licenses get yanked for not serving the public good. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Thanks Lynn for stepping in. Yes, please be civil everyone and please watch the language. This is getting out of control. Patrick Martin Co Moderator ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Doug Pifer
Good job Lynn. Keep up the good work! 73- Doug On Jul 27, 2007, at 8:24 AM, Patrick Griffith, N0NNK / WPE9HVW wrote: ... and all of you who are unhappy with Lynn's response to this current exchange, to contact Lynn directly off-list as I have done and voice your displeasure. Patrick

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Russ Edmunds
OK, now that I've re-read Mike's original post, I don't really see that it was as bad as it was made out to be. Certainly not anti-DX. Just observations about the way things seem to be going. The big boys or broadcasting seem to have the FCC under their dominon pretty much, and the local,

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
Kevin: Very well said, thank you. I agree and couldn't have said it better Paul On 7/27/07, kevin redding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many DXers like myself really don't care one bit whether a broadcaster ever make a dime. We are more concerned about the propagational effects of waves and

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Bill Harms
Yes, I have problems with it. Bill Mike McKenna wrote: Anyone dis-like the idea of KGA downgrading ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Powell E. Way III W4OPW
--- Mike McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK -- So lets get back on topic. --- Who thinks it's good for DXing -- to see the Downgrading of the clear channels -- into regional channels -- without the protection -- just so another daytimer can get nightime service --- most likely in

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Neil Kazaross
-dx.com Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade --- Mike McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK -- So lets get back on topic. --- Who thinks it's good for DXing -- to see the Downgrading of the clear channels -- into regional channels -- without the protection

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread chris and anne
- Original Message - From: Neil Kazaross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade The 1070 example shows what happens when the FCC doesn't think. 1) The SC

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Mike, Are you asking from a DXers point of view or a broadcasters point of view? I don't like to see any old station go away, or change calls, but unfortunately that is reality in today's world. To me, the FCC blew it allowing so many stations on the AM band. If we had a 1,000 or so, there would

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Mike, What stations have you owned? 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KAVT Reception Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Russ, I saw that 15 years ago going to NAB conventions. The FCC basically does what the big boys want them to do. That is one reason we have IBOC. The old FCC of the past would never have oked that noise maker, but in todays world, it ain't your grandfathers radio any longer. hi. 73, Patrick

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-27 Thread The Kaskey Family
8:11 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade --- Mike McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK -- So lets get back on topic. --- Who thinks it's good for DXing -- to see the Downgrading of the clear channels -- into regional channels -- without the protection -- just so another

[IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-26 Thread Bill Harms
Patrick: Maybe from a financial point of view this kind of thing might make sense for the new owners. However, it negates one of the strong points of the AM band and that is long distance night time coverage. Historical, KGA has been one of the top two or three best bests, if not THE best

Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade

2007-07-26 Thread Bill Harms
Pat, I fully understand about opening the channel for DX, but I lament the fact that they might be doing this. There is a lot of nostalgia and history involved. It is all about money I suppose. I just hope they don't do something stupid like change the callsign. When they signed on in 1927,