Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-27 Thread Andrew Ikin
ica Subject: Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions Valid point from Chuck. I've never had an overload problem with any of my ALA. The FLG 100, yes. It needs the 10 dB attenuation, but the ALA 100 works fine, even with my 10 kW CFAX 1070 within 1 to 2 km from my QTH. Never any overload.

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread Volodya S
his is speculation as Wellbrook doesn't really explain the 20m limit.. > > > Chuck > > > > From: IRCA on behalf of Nicholas > Hall-Patch > Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 9:13 PM > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread Chuck Hutton
n't really explain the 20m limit. Chuck From: IRCA on behalf of Nicholas Hall-Patch Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 9:13 PM To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions Wellbrook's documentation for th

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread Don Moman VE6JY
I'm a fan of the Wellbrook for sure but I use much larger loops - one is around 80m in circumference. The top is around 120'. It was made this dimension because a: that's what I first tried and b: it's just able to handle the medium wave energy present. It's oriented to null the Edmonton

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread Nicholas Hall-Patch
Wellbrook's documentation for the ALA100LN says "The antenna uses a 20m circumference thin wire loop to provide optimum s/n. " Apparently, larger loops provide more of a mismatch to the input impedance of the amplifier, so one doesn't get the expected additional gain from a still larger loop.

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread Volodya S
That's the other wonderful thing about the ALA 100. Any old tree, any shape, virtually works just fine. Mine have been square, round, triangular, and anything between, and they've always worked well. Very forgiving!Walt On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:54 AM R. Colin Newell wrote: > > I was

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread R. Colin Newell
I was building a 27’ long bamboo radio tower today and threw up a 30’ (17’ diagonal ALA100) to test out a spot in my front yard which is, ironically, quieter than my backyard. The WELLBROOKS are a joy to use in that you can throw a tangle of wire at a tree and have an instant antenna.

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread Volodya S
It's interesting, but I haven't yet found a, "too big circumference" with the ALA. It seems to be an extremely robust piece of equipment which allows virtually any size to work. The biggest I've used was about 50' x 20', and also 2 loops of 30' x 20'. Not sure what happens if it is too large

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread R. Colin Newell
Andy Ikin would’ve told you that a standard ALA100 is probably at its best at a loop of wire 20-30 feet long. Bigger is not always better with these units. Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA - > On Aug 26, 2018, at 6:40 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. > wrote: > > I could’ve made it even

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
I could’ve made it even larger but I wanted a cross between large size and manageable I could’ve done 40-50 feet long. Who knows what I’ll decide to do when I end up somewhere else Paul On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 9:39 PM Volodya S wrote: > Excellent dimensions, Paul. The larger the loop, the

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread Volodya S
Excellent dimensions, Paul. The larger the loop, the more gain you will have. Mine are always as large as I can make it! Walt On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 11:44 PM Paul B. Walker, Jr. < walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote: > When I land somewhere again where I have a bit of yard space (i dont

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
When I land somewhere again where I have a bit of yard space (i dont have hear, but did at my last place) Im reconstructing my Wellbrook ALA100LN 25 foot long by 10 foot tall valleyball net loop antenna that worked so well for me. On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 7:42 PM R. Colin Newell wrote: >

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread R. Colin Newell
Correction: The Wellbrook ALA series is optimized for 100khz to 30 MHz not really 10 KHz - although you will hear lots of stuff < 100 KHz on it. 100% satisfied Wellbrook user. Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA - > On Aug 26, 2018, at 7:36 AM, Russ Johnson wrote: > > > Good

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread R. Colin Newell
I have 3 Wellbrook ALA100's and two FLG100's (for the KAZ, FLAG, Pennant antennas...) They have defined and shaped my listening over the years - love them / could not live without them. Balanced and quiet performance from 10 khz to 30 Mhz. Highest vote for these products. On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread C B via IRCA
--- Begin Message --- FWIW, I have been using a Wellbrook ALA 1530ln feeding into a Quantum Phaser for several years. The Quantum Phaser amp quiet and provides a nice signal boost in addition to the Wellbrook amp that came with the ALA 1530ln. The Wellbrook loop is located indoors in my shack.

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread Russ Johnson
Thank you Steve. That’s good to know. I have played around with LF from time to time. My MFJ experience over the years has been a bit mixed. On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:16 PM Steve Ratzlaff wrote: > In addition to the loops already mentioned, there's the MFJ 1888 > broadband amplified loop. I

Re: [IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread Steve Ratzlaff
In addition to the loops already mentioned, there's the MFJ 1888 broadband amplified loop. I bought one some time back mainly just to see how well it worked at LF, which is my primary use for receive-only amplified loops. The MFJ loop does not work at LF despite the typographical claim in the

[IRCA] Loop comparisons / suggestions

2018-08-26 Thread Russ Johnson
Good Morning, I will likely be purchasing a magnetic loop this fall. I wasn’t able to find much on the web in terms of direct comparisons between the Wellbook ALA1530LP, W6LVP loop and DX Engineering RF-PRO-1B. Ability to withstand the weather is of prime importance. While cost is always