Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

I'd spend upward of 750-1000 on a good tablet or laptop and an SDR... I'm
not sure I want to spend that much and like I said, not sure I have the
patience to wanna learn it.  I had an SDR a year ago, could never get it to
work worth a crap

On Thursday, December 1, 2016, Walter Salmaniw <can...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Before dismissing too quickly, it does make for a quantum change in how you
> listen.  Here's an example.   Things are hopping on the bands, but it's
> damn cold.  Fingers are barely working, but it would be a shame to miss the
> opening.  Right now, you are on a single frequency, and as I see it, you
> like to park there and enjoy the programming and get a good recording.
> Good on you!   With a SDR (I have 3 myself), you push the button and record
> the entire MW spectrum.  Record 5, 10 or 30 minutes.  Or until you're too
> cold!Now, retreat to the warmth of your place and continue DXing the
> file that was created.  It'll be exactly like listening live with complete
> freedom to go from channel to channel and not miss a thing.  Also easy to
> check for // frequencies.   It truly is a fantastic tool.   Yes, there's a
> learning curve with SDRs.  I started with WinRadios, then over to SDR-IQ,
> and for many years now, with the Perseus SDR.   The latter really is most,
> to me, like a regular radio when it comes to it's interface.   I also have
> the same Elad which is on long term loan to Colin.  I love my Perseus
> receivers (2 of them) and would never go back to analogue radios.  The
> Perseus is a bit more expensive, but I always check the used market.  My
> 2nd Perseus came 2nd hand.  With the radios you've used over the last 2
> years, an SDR has to be the next one for you, Paul.  Beware the cheap USB
> dongle SDRs.   You get what you pay for, but I suppose it's a good
> introduction to SDR.73,...Walt
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > No way am i spending $500 on that.. Theres another SDR for like $200
> thats
> > getting good reviews, but i have no real plans to go the SDR route right
> > now too much of a learning curve and i dont have the patience.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Neil Kazaross <neilka...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > For domestics I'd prefer to record xx:57 to xx:02 since many domestics
> > come
> > > out of their talk shows into local stuff or stuff that can be local
> about
> > > xx:57.
> > >
> > > The Perseus only specs to a low freq of  0C (32F). When mine has been
> in
> > my
> > > DX truck long term at -20C (-4F) I have had some concerns that while it
> > > worked ok, it may not have been working optimally. Others in colder
> > places
> > > could better advise if they also DX outside as I do in my truck.
> > >
> > > Since Paul would want to power from his laptop I'd recommend
> > > http://shop.elad-usa.com/sdr-radio/fdm-s2/ which is a great buy at
> this
> > > sale price. He'd then bring everything back into the house after
> > recording
> > > across each ToH unless he had a warming tent.
> > >
> > > 73 KAZ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Nick Hall-Patch <n...@ieee.org
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hmmm, grounding, in Alaska, in winter.   Might be an interesting
> > exercise
> > > > if one wanted a separate ground rod from household power ground, now
> > > that I
> > > > think about it
> > > >
> > > > At 07:20 01-12-16, Chuck Hutton wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Paul -
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Find some 100% shielded 50 Ohm coax or use some RG6 quad shield.
> Maybe
> > > >> you'll need a filter and / or choke also. With all the above, I'm
> sure
> > > you
> > > >> can eliminate or greatly reduce the FM problem. You'll live longer
> > too.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> With good grounding (as Walt says) it won't be a big antenna - just
> a
> > > >> small quiet pipe conveying tons of delicious DX.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Chuck
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 
> > > >> From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com <javascript:;>> on
> behalf of Paul B.
> > Walker,
> > > >> Jr. <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com &l

Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[DXer]

That price is the lowest I've seen.

I think I'll give my wife custody of my credit card, no...not for a 
christmas present, but to prevent me from buying one now. LOL


Regards,

Vince
Ottawa, ON



On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Neil Kazaross  wrote:



Since Paul would want to power from his laptop I'd recommend
http://shop.elad-usa.com/sdr-radio/fdm-s2/ which is a great buy at this
sale price. He'd then bring everything back into the house after

recording

across each ToH unless he had a warming tent.

73 KAZ

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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[DXer]

Paul,

I would not call it cheating, it was received with your own receiver and 
antenna. But I agree with you on whether I will ever find time to check 
the recordings.


As for playing with the settings, the only thing you would not be able 
to do is tweak with the antenna post recordings.


SDR recording is the closest we have come to successfully turning back 
time.


Regards,

Vince
Ottawa, ON

On 2016-12-01 8:03 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote:

Plus, I believe recording whole swaths of spectrum and listening back later
is cheating and not really dxing. Plus, the way I do things, it'd be 5
years before I got around to things.

Part of the fun in DXing is tweaking settings on bathe antenna and radio
and working to actually get that signal

Pau l

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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[DXer]

As the guy that wrote about the RTL dongles recently, I'll second Walt's 
advice. This is not/not the radio for anybody that would be a subscriber 
to this mailing list.


That said, this is the most bang for the buck to get an idea of what SDR 
is (US$20 for the RTL-SDR Blog v3 dongle), and to try some of the free 
software that is out there (SDR#, HDSDR, SDR-Console). Most of them will 
work with your next purchase (Perseus and ELAD), if you want something 
other than the radio's bundled software package.


Regards,

Vince
Ottawa, ON

On 2016-12-01 7:54 PM, Walter Salmaniw wrote:

Beware the cheap USB
dongle SDRs.   You get what you pay for, but I suppose it's a good
introduction to SDR.73,...Walt

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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

Plus, I believe recording whole swaths of spectrum and listening back later
is cheating and not really dxing. Plus, the way I do things, it'd be 5
years before I got around to things.

Part of the fun in DXing is tweaking settings on bathe antenna and radio
and working to actually get that signal

Pau l

On Thursday, December 1, 2016, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd spend upward of 750-1000 on a good tablet or laptop and an SDR... I'm
> not sure I want to spend that much and like I said, not sure I have the
> patience to wanna learn it.  I had an SDR a year ago, could never get it to
> work worth a crap
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2016, Walter Salmaniw <can...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','can...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Before dismissing too quickly, it does make for a quantum change in how
>> you
>> listen.  Here's an example.   Things are hopping on the bands, but it's
>> damn cold.  Fingers are barely working, but it would be a shame to miss
>> the
>> opening.  Right now, you are on a single frequency, and as I see it, you
>> like to park there and enjoy the programming and get a good recording.
>> Good on you!   With a SDR (I have 3 myself), you push the button and
>> record
>> the entire MW spectrum.  Record 5, 10 or 30 minutes.  Or until you're too
>> cold!Now, retreat to the warmth of your place and continue DXing the
>> file that was created.  It'll be exactly like listening live with complete
>> freedom to go from channel to channel and not miss a thing.  Also easy to
>> check for // frequencies.   It truly is a fantastic tool.   Yes, there's a
>> learning curve with SDRs.  I started with WinRadios, then over to SDR-IQ,
>> and for many years now, with the Perseus SDR.   The latter really is most,
>> to me, like a regular radio when it comes to it's interface.   I also have
>> the same Elad which is on long term loan to Colin.  I love my Perseus
>> receivers (2 of them) and would never go back to analogue radios.  The
>> Perseus is a bit more expensive, but I always check the used market.  My
>> 2nd Perseus came 2nd hand.  With the radios you've used over the last 2
>> years, an SDR has to be the next one for you, Paul.  Beware the cheap USB
>> dongle SDRs.   You get what you pay for, but I suppose it's a good
>> introduction to SDR.73,...Walt
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
>> walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > No way am i spending $500 on that.. Theres another SDR for like $200
>> thats
>> > getting good reviews, but i have no real plans to go the SDR route right
>> > now too much of a learning curve and i dont have the patience.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Neil Kazaross <neilka...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > For domestics I'd prefer to record xx:57 to xx:02 since many domestics
>> > come
>> > > out of their talk shows into local stuff or stuff that can be local
>> about
>> > > xx:57.
>> > >
>> > > The Perseus only specs to a low freq of  0C (32F). When mine has been
>> in
>> > my
>> > > DX truck long term at -20C (-4F) I have had some concerns that while
>> it
>> > > worked ok, it may not have been working optimally. Others in colder
>> > places
>> > > could better advise if they also DX outside as I do in my truck.
>> > >
>> > > Since Paul would want to power from his laptop I'd recommend
>> > > http://shop.elad-usa.com/sdr-radio/fdm-s2/ which is a great buy at
>> this
>> > > sale price. He'd then bring everything back into the house after
>> > recording
>> > > across each ToH unless he had a warming tent.
>> > >
>> > > 73 KAZ
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Nick Hall-Patch <n...@ieee.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hmmm, grounding, in Alaska, in winter.   Might be an interesting
>> > exercise
>> > > > if one wanted a separate ground rod from household power ground, now
>> > > that I
>> > > > think about it
>> > > >
>> > > > At 07:20 01-12-16, Chuck Hutton wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Paul -
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Find some 100% shielded 50 Ohm coax or use some RG6 quad shield.
>> Maybe
>> > > >> you'll need a filter and / or 

Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Walter Salmaniw]

Before dismissing too quickly, it does make for a quantum change in how you
listen.  Here's an example.   Things are hopping on the bands, but it's
damn cold.  Fingers are barely working, but it would be a shame to miss the
opening.  Right now, you are on a single frequency, and as I see it, you
like to park there and enjoy the programming and get a good recording.
Good on you!   With a SDR (I have 3 myself), you push the button and record
the entire MW spectrum.  Record 5, 10 or 30 minutes.  Or until you're too
cold!Now, retreat to the warmth of your place and continue DXing the
file that was created.  It'll be exactly like listening live with complete
freedom to go from channel to channel and not miss a thing.  Also easy to
check for // frequencies.   It truly is a fantastic tool.   Yes, there's a
learning curve with SDRs.  I started with WinRadios, then over to SDR-IQ,
and for many years now, with the Perseus SDR.   The latter really is most,
to me, like a regular radio when it comes to it's interface.   I also have
the same Elad which is on long term loan to Colin.  I love my Perseus
receivers (2 of them) and would never go back to analogue radios.  The
Perseus is a bit more expensive, but I always check the used market.  My
2nd Perseus came 2nd hand.  With the radios you've used over the last 2
years, an SDR has to be the next one for you, Paul.  Beware the cheap USB
dongle SDRs.   You get what you pay for, but I suppose it's a good
introduction to SDR.73,...Walt

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No way am i spending $500 on that.. Theres another SDR for like $200 thats
> getting good reviews, but i have no real plans to go the SDR route right
> now too much of a learning curve and i dont have the patience.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Neil Kazaross <neilka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > For domestics I'd prefer to record xx:57 to xx:02 since many domestics
> come
> > out of their talk shows into local stuff or stuff that can be local about
> > xx:57.
> >
> > The Perseus only specs to a low freq of  0C (32F). When mine has been in
> my
> > DX truck long term at -20C (-4F) I have had some concerns that while it
> > worked ok, it may not have been working optimally. Others in colder
> places
> > could better advise if they also DX outside as I do in my truck.
> >
> > Since Paul would want to power from his laptop I'd recommend
> > http://shop.elad-usa.com/sdr-radio/fdm-s2/ which is a great buy at this
> > sale price. He'd then bring everything back into the house after
> recording
> > across each ToH unless he had a warming tent.
> >
> > 73 KAZ
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Nick Hall-Patch <n...@ieee.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hmmm, grounding, in Alaska, in winter.   Might be an interesting
> exercise
> > > if one wanted a separate ground rod from household power ground, now
> > that I
> > > think about it
> > >
> > > At 07:20 01-12-16, Chuck Hutton wrote:
> > >
> > >> Paul -
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Find some 100% shielded 50 Ohm coax or use some RG6 quad shield. Maybe
> > >> you'll need a filter and / or choke also. With all the above, I'm sure
> > you
> > >> can eliminate or greatly reduce the FM problem. You'll live longer
> too.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> With good grounding (as Walt says) it won't be a big antenna - just a
> > >> small quiet pipe conveying tons of delicious DX.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Chuck
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >> From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com> on behalf of Paul B.
> Walker,
> > >> Jr. <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:46 PM
> > >> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> > >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30
> > >>
> > >> Why does no one understand about the fact I've got 3 FM transmitters
> > above
> > >> me?
> > >> It gets into things 500 feet away... It'll sure as heck get into
> things
> > 50
> > >> feet away acting as a big antenna.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Walter Salmaniw <can...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Paul, with good quality coax, and proper grounding, I think it is
> > >> > possible.  Of course you'll never know unles

Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

No way am i spending $500 on that.. Theres another SDR for like $200 thats
getting good reviews, but i have no real plans to go the SDR route right
now too much of a learning curve and i dont have the patience.



On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Neil Kazaross <neilka...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For domestics I'd prefer to record xx:57 to xx:02 since many domestics come
> out of their talk shows into local stuff or stuff that can be local about
> xx:57.
>
> The Perseus only specs to a low freq of  0C (32F). When mine has been in my
> DX truck long term at -20C (-4F) I have had some concerns that while it
> worked ok, it may not have been working optimally. Others in colder places
> could better advise if they also DX outside as I do in my truck.
>
> Since Paul would want to power from his laptop I'd recommend
> http://shop.elad-usa.com/sdr-radio/fdm-s2/ which is a great buy at this
> sale price. He'd then bring everything back into the house after recording
> across each ToH unless he had a warming tent.
>
> 73 KAZ
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Nick Hall-Patch <n...@ieee.org> wrote:
>
> > Hmmm, grounding, in Alaska, in winter.   Might be an interesting exercise
> > if one wanted a separate ground rod from household power ground, now
> that I
> > think about it
> >
> > At 07:20 01-12-16, Chuck Hutton wrote:
> >
> >> Paul -
> >>
> >>
> >> Find some 100% shielded 50 Ohm coax or use some RG6 quad shield. Maybe
> >> you'll need a filter and / or choke also. With all the above, I'm sure
> you
> >> can eliminate or greatly reduce the FM problem. You'll live longer too.
> >>
> >>
> >> With good grounding (as Walt says) it won't be a big antenna - just a
> >> small quiet pipe conveying tons of delicious DX.
> >>
> >>
> >> Chuck
> >>
> >>
> >> ________
> >> From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com> on behalf of Paul B. Walker,
> >> Jr. <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:46 PM
> >> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> >> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30
> >>
> >> Why does no one understand about the fact I've got 3 FM transmitters
> above
> >> me?
> >> It gets into things 500 feet away... It'll sure as heck get into things
> 50
> >> feet away acting as a big antenna.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Walter Salmaniw <can...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Paul, with good quality coax, and proper grounding, I think it is
> >> > possible.  Of course you'll never know unless you try.  That's what
> it's
> >> > about!  Walt
> >> >
> >> > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> >> > walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Nope. No culverts. Roads aren't even paved
> >> > >
> >> > > The coax would just certainly pick up noise. I've got transmit
> >> antennas
> >> > 50
> >> > > feet above my head, 500 feet away from m DX spot
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross <neilka...@gmail.com
> >> > <javascript:;>
> >> > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I'd think that coax and properly grounded at both ends wouldn't
> >> pick up
> >> > > > much noise. Anyway (culverts) etc to go under that highway? I do
> >> like
> >> > you
> >> > > > heated tent idea!  73 KAZ
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Eric Floden <
> eric.f99...@gmail.com
> >> > <javascript:;>
> >> > > <javascript:;>
> >> > > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Shawn Axelrod, if you are here, did you noy used to DX from an
> old
> >> > > > > vehicle/bus?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > eric
> >> > > > > Vancouver
> >> > > > > ___
> >> > > > > IRCA mailing list
> >> > > > > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> >> <javascript:;>
> >> > > > > http://montre

Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Neil Kazaross]

For domestics I'd prefer to record xx:57 to xx:02 since many domestics come
out of their talk shows into local stuff or stuff that can be local about
xx:57.

The Perseus only specs to a low freq of  0C (32F). When mine has been in my
DX truck long term at -20C (-4F) I have had some concerns that while it
worked ok, it may not have been working optimally. Others in colder places
could better advise if they also DX outside as I do in my truck.

Since Paul would want to power from his laptop I'd recommend
http://shop.elad-usa.com/sdr-radio/fdm-s2/ which is a great buy at this
sale price. He'd then bring everything back into the house after recording
across each ToH unless he had a warming tent.

73 KAZ



On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:34 AM, Nick Hall-Patch <n...@ieee.org> wrote:

> Hmmm, grounding, in Alaska, in winter.   Might be an interesting exercise
> if one wanted a separate ground rod from household power ground, now that I
> think about it
>
> At 07:20 01-12-16, Chuck Hutton wrote:
>
>> Paul -
>>
>>
>> Find some 100% shielded 50 Ohm coax or use some RG6 quad shield. Maybe
>> you'll need a filter and / or choke also. With all the above, I'm sure you
>> can eliminate or greatly reduce the FM problem. You'll live longer too.
>>
>>
>> With good grounding (as Walt says) it won't be a big antenna - just a
>> small quiet pipe conveying tons of delicious DX.
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com> on behalf of Paul B. Walker,
>> Jr. <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:46 PM
>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30
>>
>> Why does no one understand about the fact I've got 3 FM transmitters above
>> me?
>> It gets into things 500 feet away... It'll sure as heck get into things 50
>> feet away acting as a big antenna.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Walter Salmaniw <can...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Paul, with good quality coax, and proper grounding, I think it is
>> > possible.  Of course you'll never know unless you try.  That's what it's
>> > about!  Walt
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
>> > walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Nope. No culverts. Roads aren't even paved
>> > >
>> > > The coax would just certainly pick up noise. I've got transmit
>> antennas
>> > 50
>> > > feet above my head, 500 feet away from m DX spot
>> > >
>> > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross <neilka...@gmail.com
>> > <javascript:;>
>> > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I'd think that coax and properly grounded at both ends wouldn't
>> pick up
>> > > > much noise. Anyway (culverts) etc to go under that highway? I do
>> like
>> > you
>> > > > heated tent idea!  73 KAZ
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Eric Floden <eric.f99...@gmail.com
>> > <javascript:;>
>> > > <javascript:;>
>> > > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Shawn Axelrod, if you are here, did you noy used to DX from an old
>> > > > > vehicle/bus?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > eric
>> > > > > Vancouver
>> > > > > ___
>> > > > > IRCA mailing list
>> > > > > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
>> <javascript:;>
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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Nick Hall-Patch]

Hmmm, grounding, in Alaska, in winter.   Might be an interesting 
exercise if one wanted a separate ground rod from household power 
ground, now that I think about it


At 07:20 01-12-16, Chuck Hutton wrote:

Paul -


Find some 100% shielded 50 Ohm coax or use some RG6 quad shield. 
Maybe you'll need a filter and / or choke also. With all the above, 
I'm sure you can eliminate or greatly reduce the FM problem. You'll 
live longer too.



With good grounding (as Walt says) it won't be a big antenna - just 
a small quiet pipe conveying tons of delicious DX.



Chuck



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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

Why does no one understand about the fact I've got 3 FM transmitters above
me?
It gets into things 500 feet away... It'll sure as heck get into things 50
feet away acting as a big antenna.



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> Paul, with good quality coax, and proper grounding, I think it is
> possible.  Of course you'll never know unless you try.  That's what it's
> about!  Walt
>
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > Nope. No culverts. Roads aren't even paved
> >
> > The coax would just certainly pick up noise. I've got transmit antennas
> 50
> > feet above my head, 500 feet away from m DX spot
> >
> > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross <neilka...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > I'd think that coax and properly grounded at both ends wouldn't pick up
> > > much noise. Anyway (culverts) etc to go under that highway? I do like
> you
> > > heated tent idea!  73 KAZ
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Eric Floden <eric.f99...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>
> > <javascript:;>
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> > >
> > > > Shawn Axelrod, if you are here, did you noy used to DX from an old
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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

If I could, I'd invite you guys and see just how much this wouldn't work.
My DX spot is on the other side of the road.. I can't run coax, cable,
antenna, nothing across Tiger Freeway, which essentially runs the entire
length of the town, no way around it and you won't be able to dig anything
in the ground till may or so, if that.

(Kind of an ironic name for a road, considering where I live)

I'm going to look into some kind of heated tent idea.


On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Chuck Hutton <charle...@msn.com> wrote:

> Paul -
>
>
> Find some 100% shielded 50 Ohm coax or use some RG6 quad shield. Maybe
> you'll need a filter and / or choke also. With all the above, I'm sure you
> can eliminate or greatly reduce the FM problem. You'll live longer too.
>
>
> With good grounding (as Walt says) it won't be a big antenna - just a
> small quiet pipe conveying tons of delicious DX.
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> 
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> Jr. <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:46 PM
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> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30
>
> Why does no one understand about the fact I've got 3 FM transmitters above
> me?
> It gets into things 500 feet away... It'll sure as heck get into things 50
> feet away acting as a big antenna.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Walter Salmaniw <can...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Paul, with good quality coax, and proper grounding, I think it is
> > possible.  Of course you'll never know unless you try.  That's what it's
> > about!  Walt
> >
> > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> > walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > Nope. No culverts. Roads aren't even paved
> > >
> > > The coax would just certainly pick up noise. I've got transmit antennas
> > 50
> > > feet above my head, 500 feet away from m DX spot
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross <neilka...@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>
> > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'd think that coax and properly grounded at both ends wouldn't pick
> up
> > > > much noise. Anyway (culverts) etc to go under that highway? I do like
> > you
> > > > heated tent idea!  73 KAZ
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Eric Floden <eric.f99...@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>
> > > <javascript:;>
> > > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Shawn Axelrod, if you are here, did you noy used to DX from an old
> > > > > vehicle/bus?
> > > > >
> > > > > eric
> > > > > Vancouver
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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Chuck Hutton]

Paul -


Find some 100% shielded 50 Ohm coax or use some RG6 quad shield. Maybe you'll 
need a filter and / or choke also. With all the above, I'm sure you can 
eliminate or greatly reduce the FM problem. You'll live longer too.


With good grounding (as Walt says) it won't be a big antenna - just a small 
quiet pipe conveying tons of delicious DX.


Chuck



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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

Why does no one understand about the fact I've got 3 FM transmitters above
me?
It gets into things 500 feet away... It'll sure as heck get into things 50
feet away acting as a big antenna.



On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Walter Salmaniw <can...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Paul, with good quality coax, and proper grounding, I think it is
> possible.  Of course you'll never know unless you try.  That's what it's
> about!  Walt
>
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > Nope. No culverts. Roads aren't even paved
> >
> > The coax would just certainly pick up noise. I've got transmit antennas
> 50
> > feet above my head, 500 feet away from m DX spot
> >
> > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross <neilka...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > I'd think that coax and properly grounded at both ends wouldn't pick up
> > > much noise. Anyway (culverts) etc to go under that highway? I do like
> you
> > > heated tent idea!  73 KAZ
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Eric Floden <eric.f99...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>
> > <javascript:;>
> > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Shawn Axelrod, if you are here, did you noy used to DX from an old
> > > > vehicle/bus?
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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Scott Fybush]

On 11/30/2016 10:46 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote:

Why does no one understand about the fact I've got 3 FM transmitters above
me?
It gets into things 500 feet away... It'll sure as heck get into things 50
feet away acting as a big antenna.



Unless there's cabinet radiation from the transmitters themselves (and 
they're newish transmitters that shouldn't have that problem), shielded 
coax is a wonderful thing. It keeps the RF output from the transmitters 
going up to the antennas, and it can keep the RF from your remote 
antenna going straight into your radio without picking up much of 
anything from those FM transmitters.


If you were at an AM transmitter site, it might be a different story. 
But I agree with Walt - it's worth the attempt!


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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Walter Salmaniw]

Paul, see it as a challenge.  You wouldn't be the first with huge RF
issues.  There is a work around.  Walt

On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why does no one understand about the fact I've got 3 FM transmitters above
> me?
> It gets into things 500 feet away... It'll sure as heck get into things 50
> feet away acting as a big antenna.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Walter Salmaniw  > wrote:
>
> > Paul, with good quality coax, and proper grounding, I think it is
> > possible.  Of course you'll never know unless you try.  That's what it's
> > about!  Walt
> >
> > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> > walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com  > wrote:
> >
> > > Nope. No culverts. Roads aren't even paved
> > >
> > > The coax would just certainly pick up noise. I've got transmit antennas
> > 50
> > > feet above my head, 500 feet away from m DX spot
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross  
> > 
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'd think that coax and properly grounded at both ends wouldn't pick
> up
> > > > much noise. Anyway (culverts) etc to go under that highway? I do like
> > you
> > > > heated tent idea!  73 KAZ
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Eric Floden  
> > 
> > > 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Shawn Axelrod, if you are here, did you noy used to DX from an old
> > > > > vehicle/bus?
> > > > >
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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

Why does no one understand about the fact I've got 3 FM transmitters above
me?
It gets into things 500 feet away... It'll sure as heck get into things 50
feet away acting as a big antenna.



On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:

> Paul, with good quality coax, and proper grounding, I think it is
> possible.  Of course you'll never know unless you try.  That's what it's
> about!  Walt
>
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > Nope. No culverts. Roads aren't even paved
> >
> > The coax would just certainly pick up noise. I've got transmit antennas
> 50
> > feet above my head, 500 feet away from m DX spot
> >
> > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross  
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > I'd think that coax and properly grounded at both ends wouldn't pick up
> > > much noise. Anyway (culverts) etc to go under that highway? I do like
> you
> > > heated tent idea!  73 KAZ
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Eric Floden  
> > 
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Shawn Axelrod, if you are here, did you noy used to DX from an old
> > > > vehicle/bus?
> > > >
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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Walter Salmaniw]

Paul, with good quality coax, and proper grounding, I think it is
possible.  Of course you'll never know unless you try.  That's what it's
about!  Walt

On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nope. No culverts. Roads aren't even paved
>
> The coax would just certainly pick up noise. I've got transmit antennas 50
> feet above my head, 500 feet away from m DX spot
>
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross  > wrote:
>
> > I'd think that coax and properly grounded at both ends wouldn't pick up
> > much noise. Anyway (culverts) etc to go under that highway? I do like you
> > heated tent idea!  73 KAZ
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Eric Floden  
> > > wrote:
> >
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> > > vehicle/bus?
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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

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--- Begin Message ---
Paul's situation seems like a slam-dunk case for SDR usage.

Go out five to ten minutes before top-of-hour, record the whole band xx58-xx03, 
and then you're back inside where it's warm by five past the hour.
 
Total time outside 10-15 minutes.

Whole dial worth of stuff to tune after-the-fact will keep you busy INDOORS for 
several hours unless conditions are completely "naff."

Unless you want to drag an extra battery pack along, you want a receiver that 
powers up right off the host laptop's USB.

The tent is still a good idea to moderate wind / temperature / precipitation 
effects on gear and operator.

Mark Connelly, WA1ION
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Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 13:55:04 -0500
From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

As I've said before I can't run coax from my DX spot to the house. It
would cross tiger freeway and pick up a bunch of RF and electrical noise
from the building.

I am going to eventually look into a heated tent of some kind


On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross <neilka...@gmail.com> wrote:

> C'mon Pauldress up and get outside and DX. Seriously, you need to find
> some way to run coax into someplace warmer. 73 KAZ
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > Too cold here to go outside and DX... It's -34 below
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross <neilka...@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > CX here in IL remain worthless. Semi-AU boredom is endless. Not AU
> enough
> > > to get good stuff south with little northern QRM. But too AU to get
> much
> > > past Winnipeg towards the north. Too AU for decent TA cx etc.
> > >
> > > Other than to test antennas I have little incentive to turn the radio
> on.
> > > 73 KAZ
>>
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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

Nope. No culverts. Roads aren't even paved

The coax would just certainly pick up noise. I've got transmit antennas 50
feet above my head, 500 feet away from m DX spot

On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross  wrote:

> I'd think that coax and properly grounded at both ends wouldn't pick up
> much noise. Anyway (culverts) etc to go under that highway? I do like you
> heated tent idea!  73 KAZ
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Eric Floden  > wrote:
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> > Shawn Axelrod, if you are here, did you noy used to DX from an old
> > vehicle/bus?
> >
> > eric
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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Neil Kazaross]

I'd think that coax and properly grounded at both ends wouldn't pick up
much noise. Anyway (culverts) etc to go under that highway? I do like you
heated tent idea!  73 KAZ

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Eric Floden  wrote:

> Shawn Axelrod, if you are here, did you noy used to DX from an old
> vehicle/bus?
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> eric
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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Eric Floden]

Shawn Axelrod, if you are here, did you noy used to DX from an old
vehicle/bus?

eric
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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

As I've said before I can't run coax from my DX spot to the house.  It
would cross tiger freeway and pick up a bunch of RF and electrical noise
from the building.

I am going to eventually look into a heated tent of some kind


On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross  wrote:

> C'mon Pauldress up and get outside and DX. Seriously, you need to find
> some way to run coax into someplace warmer.  73 KAZ
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > Too cold here to go outside and DX... It's -34 below
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > CX here in IL remain worthless. Semi-AU boredom is endless. Not AU
> enough
> > > to get good stuff south with little northern QRM. But too AU to get
> much
> > > past Winnipeg towards the north. Too AU for decent TA cx etc.
> > >
> > > Other than to test antennas I have little incentive to turn the radio
> on.
> > > 73 KAZ
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:55 AM, 
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Conditions here weren't much better than Richard experienced in
> > Oklahoma.
> > > > A small collection of weak carriers at peak dawn enhancement was the
> > only
> > > > sign of Asian life this morning, without any audio showing up. At
> 1510
> > > > there were ghostly carriers on 774, 828, 972, 1566 and 1593. The
> month
> > is
> > > > finishing up just like it began-- in a very dreary state.
> > > >
> > > > 73 and Good DX,
> > > > Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
> > > > 7.5" loopstick C.Crane Skywave Ultralight +
> > > > 15" FSL antenna
> > > >
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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Neil Kazaross]

C'mon Pauldress up and get outside and DX. Seriously, you need to find
some way to run coax into someplace warmer.  73 KAZ

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Too cold here to go outside and DX... It's -34 below
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross 
> wrote:
>
> > CX here in IL remain worthless. Semi-AU boredom is endless. Not AU enough
> > to get good stuff south with little northern QRM. But too AU to get much
> > past Winnipeg towards the north. Too AU for decent TA cx etc.
> >
> > Other than to test antennas I have little incentive to turn the radio on.
> > 73 KAZ
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:55 AM, >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Conditions here weren't much better than Richard experienced in
> Oklahoma.
> > > A small collection of weak carriers at peak dawn enhancement was the
> only
> > > sign of Asian life this morning, without any audio showing up. At 1510
> > > there were ghostly carriers on 774, 828, 972, 1566 and 1593. The month
> is
> > > finishing up just like it began-- in a very dreary state.
> > >
> > > 73 and Good DX,
> > > Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
> > > 7.5" loopstick C.Crane Skywave Ultralight +
> > > 15" FSL antenna
> > >
> > >
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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

Too cold here to go outside and DX... It's -34 below

Paul


On Wednesday, November 30, 2016, Neil Kazaross  wrote:

> CX here in IL remain worthless. Semi-AU boredom is endless. Not AU enough
> to get good stuff south with little northern QRM. But too AU to get much
> past Winnipeg towards the north. Too AU for decent TA cx etc.
>
> Other than to test antennas I have little incentive to turn the radio on.
> 73 KAZ
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:55 AM, >
> wrote:
>
> > Conditions here weren't much better than Richard experienced in Oklahoma.
> > A small collection of weak carriers at peak dawn enhancement was the only
> > sign of Asian life this morning, without any audio showing up. At 1510
> > there were ghostly carriers on 774, 828, 972, 1566 and 1593. The month is
> > finishing up just like it began-- in a very dreary state.
> >
> > 73 and Good DX,
> > Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
> > 7.5" loopstick C.Crane Skywave Ultralight +
> > 15" FSL antenna
> >
> >
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Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 11-30

[Neil Kazaross]

CX here in IL remain worthless. Semi-AU boredom is endless. Not AU enough
to get good stuff south with little northern QRM. But too AU to get much
past Winnipeg towards the north. Too AU for decent TA cx etc.

Other than to test antennas I have little incentive to turn the radio on.
73 KAZ

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:55 AM,  wrote:

> Conditions here weren't much better than Richard experienced in Oklahoma.
> A small collection of weak carriers at peak dawn enhancement was the only
> sign of Asian life this morning, without any audio showing up. At 1510
> there were ghostly carriers on 774, 828, 972, 1566 and 1593. The month is
> finishing up just like it began-- in a very dreary state.
>
> 73 and Good DX,
> Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
> 7.5" loopstick C.Crane Skywave Ultralight +
> 15" FSL antenna
>
>
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