Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby on Netbeans

2008-08-27 Thread Andrew Peters
> Here's a more interesting question: do you care what language Rails is > implemented in as long as you wrote your Rails app in Ruby? Interesting. No, so long as monkey patching still works (plugins). Andrew. ___ Ironruby-core mailing list Ironruby-cor

Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby on Netbeans

2008-08-27 Thread Mario Gutierrez
John Lam (IRONRUBY) wrote: > Here's a more interesting question: do you care what language Rails is > implemented in as long as you wrote your Rails app in Ruby? > > Thanks, > -John I agree 100%. As long as it is Rails and (Iron)Ruby who cares what VM it is on? My point is ASP.NET MVC != Rails.

Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby Deployment Scenerio in Future...

2008-08-27 Thread N. F.
John Lam (IRONRUBY) wrote: > Why is MySql so important? Why not Postgres or SQL Server? > > Even more to the point - why relational databases at all - especially > for Web 2.0 style applications? Certainly none of the big boys (Google, > Amazon, eBay, Yahoo etc.) use relational databases on thei

Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby Deployment Scenerio in Future...

2008-08-27 Thread Huw Collingbourne
Softmind Technology wrote: > I am also keen to know if Sapphire Steel is on its way for a better > deployment support with its IronRuby and Ruby on Steel IDE's. We will update our IronRuby support but don't expect any major additions until around the time of the launch of IronRuby 1.0. best wi

Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby Deployment Scenerio in Future...

2008-08-27 Thread Seo Sanghyeon
2008/8/28 John Lam (IRONRUBY) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Even more to the point - why relational databases at all - especially for Web > 2.0 style applications? Certainly none of the big boys (Google, Amazon, eBay, > Yahoo etc.) use relational databases on their user-facing high-volume > properties.

Re: [Ironruby-core] Looking for Examples

2008-08-27 Thread Ivan Porto Carrero
In that case I would be very interested to know how to use rspec or any of the other gems. I tried copying them to the gems folder in the IronRuby install folder but that wasn't it :) I suppose you just took the library and then required the spec file in the lib folder. How are you guys doing on

Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby on Netbeans

2008-08-27 Thread John Lam (IRONRUBY)
Here's a more interesting question: do you care what language Rails is implemented in as long as you wrote your Rails app in Ruby? Thanks, -John > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ironruby-core- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Gutierrez > Sent: Wednesday, Augu

Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby Deployment Scenerio in Future...

2008-08-27 Thread John Lam (IRONRUBY)
Why is MySql so important? Why not Postgres or SQL Server? Even more to the point - why relational databases at all - especially for Web 2.0 style applications? Certainly none of the big boys (Google, Amazon, eBay, Yahoo etc.) use relational databases on their user-facing high-volume properties

Re: [Ironruby-core] Looking for Examples

2008-08-27 Thread John Lam (IRONRUBY)
Glen Cooper: > Well rspec for one - but I understand it isn't quite ready for IR yet > - or vice versa. I've actually gotten rspec to run on IronRuby. But today, our startup time issues (which are being fixed right now) make it a whole less useful than the mspec framework that we're currently u

Re: [Ironruby-core] Looking for Examples

2008-08-27 Thread Ivan Porto Carrero
Normally if you use gems you can wrap the requires in a begin..rescue block and catch the LoadError. At least that's how I figured I would do it. http://github.com/casualjim/ironnails/tree/master/IronNails/vendor/iron_nails/init.rb I should actually remove those lines now because the libraries are

Re: [Ironruby-core] Looking for Examples

2008-08-27 Thread Glen Cooper
Well rspec for one - but I understand it isn't quite ready for IR yet - or vice versa. One of the main reason I'm asking is that I'm starting a project which will be a library, not a stand-alone application. So I'm wondering about things like dependencies and how someone would actually us

Re: [Ironruby-core] Looking for Examples

2008-08-27 Thread Ivan Porto Carrero
The thing with gems is that it's going to be quite tricky.. some of the very useful ones (hpricot for example) depend on C-extensions and then they need to be ported first to .NET. At this moment i would try to include them in a lib folder or something and then require them when I load my script.

Re: [Ironruby-core] Looking for Examples

2008-08-27 Thread Glen Cooper
Thanks for the response. So let me ask you this. If you were to start building a project and wanted to leverage existing libraries out there, would you manually install them to your iron ruby install directory? Or just add them into a gems folder in your project - like what merb does wit

Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby on Netbeans

2008-08-27 Thread Curt Hagenlocher
Mario Gutierrez writes: > Would anyone use IronRuby within ASP.NET MVC? The Ruby MVC frameworks > are much more elegant taking advantage of dynamic nature of Ruby. > ASP.NET MVC would be a downgrade. There are at least two good reasons someone might want to use IronRuby with ASP.NET MVC. The fi

Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby on Netbeans

2008-08-27 Thread Mario Gutierrez
Web Reservoir wrote: > Hello, > > Let me make it clear... > > I am talking about IronRuby on Rails on Netbeans. > > I am not asking Netbeans to support Asp.Net MVC, as some might find > confusing. > > Thanks Would anyone use IronRuby within ASP.NET MVC? The Ruby MVC frameworks are much more

Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby Deployment Scenerio in Future...

2008-08-27 Thread Web Reservoir
> IronRuby ( IIS7 ) + MySql would be more effective that's what i feel. > Best of both the world as you can say. > As per one of the thread here (few months back, as answered by John Lam), few microsoft folks were already working on MySql adapter. I think, they should have progressed much bett

Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby Deployment Scenerio in Future...

2008-08-27 Thread Softmind Technology
It would also be interesting to know what level of deployment support is offered to IronRuby with Visual Studio Tools (Visual Studio and Visual Web Developer ) IronRuby ( IIS7 ) + MySql would be more effective that's what i feel. Best of both the world as you can say. I am also keen to know if

[Ironruby-core] IronRuby Deployment Scenerio in Future...

2008-08-27 Thread Web Reservoir
Hi, I was just reading this blog on www.infoq.com by Neal Ford on Programming Languages and Platforms. He is an experienced employee with Thoughtworks.. Here is the link... http://www.infoq.com/interviews/Languages-Platforms-Neal-Ford This paragraph from his blog/interview has attracted my atte

Re: [Ironruby-core] Looking for Examples

2008-08-27 Thread Ivan Porto Carrero
As far as I know you can't use gems yet in IronRuby and that's also why there is no example with unit tests etc. It can't be done atm. IronRuby has a minispec framework built in but that isn't as fully featured as rspec for example. Basically building stuff with IronRuby is the same as with Ruby on