[Ironruby-core] How do you convince .Net developers to use IronRuby?

2009-11-02 Thread Shay Friedman
Hi there, In the last month I had 3 sessions about IronRuby, all of them in front of .Net audience. I really believe in the IronRuby but I find it very very hard to pass that to existing .Net developers. I try to show the benefits of using IR - getting things done faster (like POCs, internal tools

Re: [Ironruby-core] How do you convince .Net developers to use IronRuby?

2009-11-02 Thread Nathan Stults
I think Time will be the most important ingredient in getting people amped on IR. It's probably too early to expect incredible enthusiasm from users groups. IronRuby, lacking VS integration and with all the command line stuff, doesn't demo in the usual Microsoft fashion, so it might be hard to wow

Re: [Ironruby-core] How do you convince .Net developers to use IronRuby?

2009-11-02 Thread Ivan Porto Carrero
AFAICT you don't, they'll have to convince themselves. I may have given this issue some thought before today :) One of the problems I have with most of the .NET shops these days is that they are very conservative. I'm having countless discussions on the benefits of unit testing, stored procs vs OR

Re: [Ironruby-core] How do you convince .Net developers to use IronRuby?

2009-11-02 Thread Dotan N.
1. Quick construction/prototyping, 2. Slow maintenance no one building a real enterprise application with intricate licensing and SLAs will settle for (2). when i think about ironruby in a .net environment - i think web, and embedded scripting extensions / DSLs in a "real" .Net app. thats your au

[Ironruby-core] Code Review: update_version

2009-11-02 Thread Jim Deville
FYI!!! tfpt review "/shelveset:update_version;REDMOND\jdeville" Comment : IronRuby.wxs needs to be included in the update version script. update_version.diff Description: update_version.diff ___ Ironruby-core mailing list Ironruby-core@rubyfo

[Ironruby-core] ironruby and sharepoint or dynamics

2009-11-02 Thread Ivan Porto Carrero
Has anyone done anything with IronRuby and dynamics or sharepoint? --- Met vriendelijke groeten - Best regards - Salutations Ivan Porto Carrero Blog: http://flanders.co.nz Twitter: http://twitter.com/casualjim Author of IronRuby in Action (http://manning.com/carrero) ___

Re: [Ironruby-core] How do you convince .Net developers to use IronRuby?

2009-11-02 Thread Seo Sanghyeon
2009/11/3 Shay Friedman : > My question is - how do you suggest to present IronRuby to .Net developers? I'd wait a bit more before the implementation matures. In my opinion, IronRuby is doing pretty well, compared to IronPython in its pre-1.0 days with similar implementation maturity. You could ev

Re: [Ironruby-core] How do you convince .Net developers to use IronRuby?

2009-11-02 Thread Kevin Radcliffe
I haven't been in the position to present on this, so please take my observations with a grain of salt. Personally, I'm a big fan of listening, and not so much on convincing. You say the biggest group of people that leave is: - No Visual Studio integration: 50% of the audience are willing to leav

Re: [Ironruby-core] How do you convince .Net developers to use IronRuby?

2009-11-02 Thread Orion Edwards
Don't sell IronRuby, sell Ruby itself. It's not hard to find sample code (or just refactor some existing C# code) where the ruby version is quarter the size, and twice as readable than the C# version. If you can convince people of the benefits of ruby, and then go "and now here's the party trick,

[Ironruby-core] IronRuby static compilation

2009-11-02 Thread David Escobar
Hi everyone. I've looked for this, but haven't really found much information. Is there a way to statically compile an IronRuby program to an .exe or .dll? It can be done with IronPython, but I haven't been able to find any information on how to do it with IronRuby. Thanks. _

Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby static compilation

2009-11-02 Thread Tomas Matousek
We don't support precompilation yet. We might implement it post v1.0. Tomas From: ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org [mailto:ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org] On Behalf Of David Escobar Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:13 PM To: ironruby-core Subject: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby static compil

Re: [Ironruby-core] IronRuby static compilation

2009-11-02 Thread David Escobar
That's very good news. Thanks. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Tomas Matousek < tomas.matou...@microsoft.com> wrote: > We don’t support precompilation yet. We might implement it post v1.0. > > > > Tomas > > > > *From:* ironruby-core-boun...@rubyforge.org [mailto: > ironruby-core-boun...@rubyfor

[Ironruby-core] [ANN] IronRuby 0.9.2 Released

2009-11-02 Thread Jimmy Schementi
The IronRuby team is pleased to announce version 0.9.2! http://ironruby.net/download Direct download link: http://ironruby.codeplex.com/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ReleaseId=33693#DownloadId=90621 As IronRuby approaches 1.0, these 0.9.x releases contain important bug fixes and enhancements tha