Re: [isabelle-dev] (Re-)introducing set as a type constructor rather than as mere abbreviation

2011-09-26 Thread Florian Haftmann
Hi again,

the current state of affairs concerning 'a set can be followed there:

https://isabelle.in.tum.de/isanotes/index.php/Having_%27a_set_back

Although I'd appreciate to see progress there, I do not ask to distract
any attention from tasks for the upcoming release.

Two remarks concerning the Isabelle distribution itself:
* In HOL-Nominal-Examples, equivariance in theory Fsub fails.  My
knowledge about equivariance is too restricted to decide whether this is
a mistake in the (adjustion of the) implementation or maybe needs
additional declarations etc.  I'm happy about any hints concerning this.
* The remaining issues mainly are concerned with particular tools at
which the corresponding maintainers should have a closer look at (if not
done already).

Florian

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Re: [isabelle-dev] Bash subcommand completion for isabelle

2011-09-26 Thread Gerwin Klein
On 26/09/2011, at 6:43 PM, Florian Haftmann wrote:

 An aside: have there ever been thoughts about adding subcommand
 completion for isabelle in bash?  At first sight this looks as a nice
 thing to have, but maybe there have been deeper consideration *not* to
 attempt this.

I've been using the attached for a few years. Just load as part of your 
~/.bashrc or similar.

It does 'isabelle make' target completion as well (code based on make 
completion from bash back then).

It probably needs a thorough code review before it can be put anywhere 
official. I've mostly used it just for myself, even though I think I sent it to 
isabelle-users at some point.

Cheers,
Gerwin




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Re: [isabelle-dev] Bash subcommand completion for isabelle

2011-09-26 Thread Makarius

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011, Florian Haftmann wrote:

An aside: have there ever been thoughts about adding subcommand 
completion for isabelle in bash?  At first sight this looks as a nice 
thing to have, but maybe there have been deeper consideration *not* to 
attempt this.


There are no deeper reasons why it was not done so far.  When the old 
isatool now isabelle wrapper was introduced in 1996, bash completion 
was not as configurable as it is now.  Even the list of the available 
subcommands was crude and slow -- I have rewritting it in perl only a few 
months ago to make it more smooth.


Generally, my tendency is to reduce the importance of command line tools. 
Pretty soon there should be the Isabelle/Scala based isabelle build 
tool, which would also work directly in the Prover IDE. This does not mean 
that the terminal will disappear, but many users on Mac OS and Windows do 
not know what it is in the first place.



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Re: [isabelle-dev] Bayesian statistics

2011-09-26 Thread Johannes Hoelzl

Hi David,

as far as I know there is no such development, however Kevin Van Horn 
asked half a year ago a similar question:


 https://lists.cam.ac.uk/pipermail/cl-isabelle-users/2011-March/msg00033.html

There is already Probability theory in Isabelle/HOL:

 
http://isabelle.in.tum.de/dist/library/HOL/HOL-Multivariate_Analysis/HOL-Probability/index.html

in the next Isabelle version contains a improved version of this, mostly 
about infinite products and independent functions.


Greetings,
  Johannes


On Sun, 25 Sep 2011, David Blubaugh wrote:


Has anyone ever developed theories with Isabelle HOL regarding Bayesian
statistics ?? 

Thanks,

David




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Re: [isabelle-dev] isabelle-release repos

2011-09-26 Thread Jasmin Christian Blanchette
Am 26.09.2011 um 20:20 schrieb Makarius:

 I am about to produce the release clone.  The current tip eb7a797ade0f will 
 probably be the fork point.  This includes a few changes by Lukas and Jasmin 
 from today, and I understand that these were meant to go into this release, 
 not the next one.

Oops, I was among those who was confused about the fork procedure. My changes 
were intended for the next release. Ah well, they should be fine for this 
release as well (and the old Kodkodi 1.2.16).

Jasmin

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Re: [isabelle-dev] Isabelle_11-Sep-2011

2011-09-26 Thread Makarius

On Fri, 23 Sep 2011, René Thiemann wrote:


Dear Makarius,


A preliminary test distribution is now available from 
http://www4.in.tum.de/~wenzelm/test/Isabelle_11-Sep-2011/download.html
A preliminary test distribution is now available from 
http://www4.in.tum.de/~wenzelm/test/Isabelle_20-Sep-2011/download.html


the Emacs version of the distribution of 11-Sep (Emacs 23.2) works nicely with 
Mac OS Lion.

However, testing Isabelle_20-Sep-2011 with Emacs 23.3, there seems to be a 
problem for Mac OS Lion users:
Many special characters like == \in, = are not displayed correctly which 
makes working inconvenient. Under

http://cl-informatik.uibk.ac.at/~thiemann/emacs.html

I put two small screenshots where one can observe the problem.
I don't know what the advantages of 23.3 are, but this display problem is a 
real disadvantage, so one might consider which
version should be shipped in final MacOS distribution 2011-1.


This looks bad.  I still do not have Lion desktop access to try it myself.

It is probably worth filing a report at 
http://proofgeneral.inf.ed.ac.uk/trac/



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[isabelle-dev] back to post-release mode

2011-09-26 Thread Makarius
The main isabelle repository http://isabelle.in.tum.de/repos/isabelle/ is 
now back to post-release mode, see 
http://isabelle.in.tum.de/repos/isabelle/rev/20b3377b08d7


This means the flow of changes for the next release, after the current 
one, can continue. I merely ask to avoid huge upheavals right now, until 
Isabelle2011-1 is officially shipped (probably mid October) and the 
release reposity merged back.



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[isabelle-dev] isabelle-release repository

2011-09-26 Thread Makarius
The release branch for Isabelle2011-1 is now at 
http://isabelle.in.tum.de/repos/isabelle-release


Any small changes and amendments can be mailed to me (cf. hg export or 
hg bundle).  Things to be added to isabelle-release should *not* be 
pushed on the main isabelle repository, to avoid the confusion of 
self-merges with copied changesets.


isatest will also test http://isabelle.in.tum.de/repos/isabelle-release 
within the next few weeks.  (In the past I used to have a minimal isatest 
for http://isabelle.in.tum.de/repos/isabelle but that was superseded by 
http://isabelle.in.tum.de/reports/Isabelle/ last time.  Can we count on 
this again?)



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Re: [isabelle-dev] isabelle-release repository

2011-09-26 Thread Alexander Krauss

On 09/26/2011 11:38 PM, Makarius wrote:

isatest will also test http://isabelle.in.tum.de/repos/isabelle-release
within the next few weeks. (In the past I used to have a minimal isatest
for http://isabelle.in.tum.de/repos/isabelle but that was superseded by
http://isabelle.in.tum.de/reports/Isabelle/ last time. Can we count on
this again?)


Yes. Our mira setup will run Isabelle_makeall as usual both for official 
changes and stuff pushed to testboard. There are also AFP tests etc.


Note that before Isabelle and the AFP are released, changes to Isabelle 
are basically limited to ones that do not break the AFP (unless Gerwin 
plans to fork, too).


Alex
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Re: [isabelle-dev] isabelle-release repository

2011-09-26 Thread Gerwin Klein

On 27/09/2011, at 7:45 AM, Alexander Krauss wrote:

 On 09/26/2011 11:38 PM, Makarius wrote:
 isatest will also test http://isabelle.in.tum.de/repos/isabelle-release
 within the next few weeks. (In the past I used to have a minimal isatest
 for http://isabelle.in.tum.de/repos/isabelle but that was superseded by
 http://isabelle.in.tum.de/reports/Isabelle/ last time. Can we count on
 this again?)
 
 Yes. Our mira setup will run Isabelle_makeall as usual both for official 
 changes and stuff pushed to testboard. There are also AFP tests etc.
 
 Note that before Isabelle and the AFP are released, changes to Isabelle are 
 basically limited to ones that do not break the AFP (unless Gerwin plans to 
 fork, too).

I've changed the afp test to point to isabelle-release for now. Unless people 
tell me they have incoming changes to the AFP that depend on new Isabelle 
changes before the release, I do not plan to fork.

There are 3 new small entries that should come in before the release and 2 
entries currently broken (Jinja  JinjaThreads). Florian and I are working on 
the latter. If someone has time, it would be nice to take a look at Jinja.

Cheers,
Gerwin

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