Re: [isabelle-dev] scala-2.11.0

2014-05-05 Thread Gottfried Barrow
On 14-05-05 15:37, Makarius wrote: That is why I pointed to $ISABELLE_HOME/src/Tools/jEdit/src/scala_console.scala before -- it shows how to turn the Scala compiler into a plain method String => String. This is the meaning of the word "interpreter". I think that occurred to me after the fact

Re: [isabelle-dev] scala-2.11.0

2014-05-05 Thread Makarius
On Mon, 5 May 2014, Gottfried Barrow wrote: I guess it's basically the same, in that the JVM is started up each time, which takes about 2 seconds, whether for Scala or JRuby. A short script that uses a C-based language, like Perl, is just the cost of the bash call, which is about 200ms. On a

Re: [isabelle-dev] scala-2.11.0

2014-05-05 Thread Gottfried Barrow
On 14-05-05 10:48, Makarius wrote: Here I guess you mean something like the isabelle_scala_script wrapper, which is indeed very slow on startup for two reasons: No, I meant something like ML{*Isabelle_System.bash "jruby my_script.rb"*}, where I was using scala instead of jruby. I guess it's

Re: [isabelle-dev] scala-2.11.0

2014-05-05 Thread Makarius
On Mon, 5 May 2014, Gottfried Barrow wrote: Cutting this short(er), part of my reject of Scala was because external calls to the JVM are slow, which is important for "REPL use", but I figured out it's not of ultimate importance, which led to me installing and using JRuby in my own distribution

Re: [isabelle-dev] scala-2.11.0

2014-05-05 Thread Gottfried Barrow
On 14-05-05 04:39, Makarius wrote: Here is a funny presentation on the Future of Programming from "1973" http://worrydream.com/#!/TheFutureOfProgramming Makarius, What's funny is that during the first minute of the video, I thought someone had inserted a laugh-track for what we would think is

Re: [isabelle-dev] status (AFP)

2014-05-05 Thread Gerwin Klein
The problem seems to be HyperCTL. From the log: Run out of store - interrupting threads Failed to recover - exiting /tmp/isabelle-isatest/isabelle_script3270098471353362986: line 8: /mnt/nfsbroy/home/isatest/afp/isadist/Isabelle_04-May-2014/lib/scripts/timestop.bash: No such file or directory Hy

Re: [isabelle-dev] status (AFP)

2014-05-05 Thread Jasmin Christian Blanchette
Am 05.05.2014 um 11:17 schrieb Johannes Hölzl : > Has anybody an idea why the AFP test for Probabilistic_Noninterference > fails? > > When I build it on my machine Same on my machine, and same for Selection_Heap_Sort, Native_Word, and Launchbury: All work fine on my machine. (HyperCTL has been

Re: [isabelle-dev] scala-2.11.0

2014-05-05 Thread Makarius
Here is a funny presentation on the Future of Programming from "1973" http://worrydream.com/#!/TheFutureOfProgramming I could have put that on the thread "Remaining uses of Proof General", because it touches recurrent problems of getting stuck with accidental situations over decades, and the im

Re: [isabelle-dev] Remaining uses of Proof General?

2014-05-05 Thread Makarius
On Mon, 5 May 2014, Thomas Sewell wrote: The basic assumption is that each proof task does not run too long, and if it does it is something to be improved in the application to make it more smooth. In contrast, Proof General makes it more easy to produce huge and heavy proof scripts that ca

Re: [isabelle-dev] status (AFP)

2014-05-05 Thread Johannes Hölzl
I use "isabelle afp_build Probabilistic_Noninterference" to build it, which includes the document generation. So it is possible that the document generation on the macbroy2 is different from my setup. Looking into the reports attached to the status email, I also see that the log for Probabilistic_

Re: [isabelle-dev] status (AFP)

2014-05-05 Thread Johannes Hölzl
Has anybody an idea why the AFP test for Probabilistic_Noninterference fails? When I build it on my machine with either the combination in the email (i.e. AFP acd2cc051b4f and Isabelle 52e5bf245b2a) or a recent hg version (AFP a0a65428715f and Isabelle d940ad3959c5) it works without problems. -

Re: [isabelle-dev] status (AFP)

2014-05-05 Thread Dmitriy Traytel
Could it be the document preparation? Dmitriy Am 05.05.2014 11:17, schrieb Johannes Hölzl: Has anybody an idea why the AFP test for Probabilistic_Noninterference fails? When I build it on my machine with either the combination in the email (i.e. AFP acd2cc051b4f and Isabelle 52e5bf245b2a) or a