Re: [isabelle-dev] \nexists

2016-07-15 Thread Makarius
On 14/07/16 17:50, Lawrence Paulson wrote: > What’s unfortunate is that the “negated exists” quantifier is available > both for input and output in Isabelle, just not as a TeX macro. The macro is available here (nipkow 2005-05-30):

Re: [isabelle-dev] \nexists

2016-07-15 Thread Johannes Hölzl
Am Freitag, den 15.07.2016, 12:15 +0200 schrieb Tobias Nipkow: > LaTeX build problems are not infrequent and could be avoided easily > if "build"  > produced the document by default. > > Tobias +1  - Johannes > On 14/07/2016 17:50, Lawrence Paulson wrote: > > > > The recent failure in

Re: [isabelle-dev] \nexists

2016-07-15 Thread Johannes Hölzl
Am Freitag, den 15.07.2016, 11:30 +0200 schrieb Makarius: > On 14/07/16 17:50, Lawrence Paulson wrote: > > > > > What’s unfortunate is that the “negated exists” quantifier is > > available > > both for input and output in Isabelle, just not as a TeX macro. > The macro is available here (nipkow

Re: [isabelle-dev] \nexists

2016-07-15 Thread Tobias Nipkow
LaTeX build problems are not infrequent and could be avoided easily if "build" produced the document by default. Tobias On 14/07/2016 17:50, Lawrence Paulson wrote: The recent failure in Multivariable_Analysis was caused by the \nexists macro, which is not defined: ! Undefined control

Re: [isabelle-dev] \nexists

2016-07-15 Thread Makarius
On 15/07/16 13:53, Johannes Hölzl wrote: > Am Freitag, den 15.07.2016, 12:15 +0200 schrieb Tobias Nipkow: >> LaTeX build problems are not infrequent and could be avoided easily >> if "build" >> produced the document by default. > > +1 -10 Every minute counts in the routine tests that I run

Re: [isabelle-dev] \nexists

2016-07-15 Thread Lars Hupel
> Latex tests add very little information for the extra time. It is > usually easy to figure out what needs to be done to make a broken > document work again. Moreover, the test often fails because of bad latex > installations, not because of bad documents. I disagree. 0% of LaTeX failures

Re: [isabelle-dev] \nexists

2016-07-15 Thread Lars Hupel
> LaTeX build problems are not infrequent and could be avoided easily if > "build" produced the document by default. The quickest way to achieve that would be to set that in the ISABELLE_BUILD_OPTIONS environment variable in ~/.isabelle/etc/settings. Cheers Lars

Re: [isabelle-dev] NEWS: Indentation according to Isabelle outer syntax

2016-07-15 Thread Makarius
On 15/07/16 11:49, Lawrence Paulson wrote: > It’s great, but can I pester you about my pet wish? It would be some sort of > “auto-complete” e.g. I type “proof (cases blah)” and somehow automatically > the full “case True show … next case False show … qed” skeleton could be > generated? The same

Re: [isabelle-dev] \nexists

2016-07-15 Thread Lars Hupel
> It is unclear if and how we could get this platform zoo back: it was > rather accidental due to different administration regimes. OpenSUSE: Maybe. I can check how well my Ansible scripts work there, but no promises. Gentoo: Unlikely. macOS: Problematic because we currently have no appropriate

Re: [isabelle-dev] \nexists

2016-07-15 Thread Tobias Nipkow
On 15/07/2016 15:32, Makarius wrote: On 15/07/16 13:53, Johannes Hölzl wrote: Am Freitag, den 15.07.2016, 12:15 +0200 schrieb Tobias Nipkow: LaTeX build problems are not infrequent and could be avoided easily if "build" produced the document by default. +1 -10 Every minute counts in the

Re: [isabelle-dev] \nexists

2016-07-15 Thread Makarius
On 15/07/16 15:46, Lars Hupel wrote: >> Latex tests add very little information for the extra time. It is >> usually easy to figure out what needs to be done to make a broken >> document work again. Moreover, the test often fails because of bad latex >> installations, not because of bad documents.

Re: [isabelle-dev] \nexists

2016-07-15 Thread Makarius
On 15/07/16 17:21, Lars Hupel wrote: > > macOS: Problematic because we currently have no appropriate hardware > available to hook into Jenkins. Apple just doesn't offer anything > suitable these days. There is still macbroy2. That is required for administrative purposes, e.g. when preparing a

Re: [isabelle-dev] \nexists

2016-07-15 Thread Makarius
On 15/07/16 17:08, Tobias Nipkow wrote: > For me a default is something that a) is beneficial for the majority of > users and b) can be overwritten if you don't like it. Isn't that > possible here? That is the existing default of not insisting in Latex documents in every single point of history.

Re: [isabelle-dev] \nexists

2016-07-15 Thread Lars Hupel
> In contrast, a full "build -a" for the formal content is vital. The > shorter that takes, the more it becomes second nature to do it > frequently -- I often do it for every single changeset (before the local > commit). Not all of us have the appropriate hardware to do that. Speaking about TUM,

Re: [isabelle-dev] \nexists

2016-07-15 Thread Lars Hupel
Hi, > if you have the telemetry data you want to visualize, and just need a > tool for rendering them nicely, you can have a look at the tool I wrote > for GHC: > > GHC instance: https://perf.haskell.org/ghc/ > Tool website: https://github.com/nomeata/gipeda Gipeda does indeed look highly