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Gary Tully commented on ARTEMIS-4314:
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[~tabish] had a great observation to suggest that with local producers keeping 
local consumers busy, messages on the upstream will be stranded b/c the local 
queue will never be empty.

That is fair, and I think a solution is to replace the check for empty with a 
check for pendingMessageCount == 0, such that if we have spare capacity, we 
pull a batch. If local producers are keeping us full, we will still leave the 
messages stranded, but in that case we are already at capacity. I think that is 
a better match.

thoughts?

> Federation, support consumerWindowSize zero and federate in batches only when 
> the local queue is empty
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>
>                 Key: ARTEMIS-4314
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-4314
>             Project: ActiveMQ Artemis
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Federation
>    Affects Versions: 2.28.0
>            Reporter: Gary Tully
>            Assignee: Gary Tully
>            Priority: Major
>             Fix For: 2.29.0
>
>          Time Spent: 10m
>  Remaining Estimate: 0h
>
> Dual queue federation, where clusters federate in both direction can suffer 
> from message flip flopping once the priority adjustment kicks in.
> If there is a large backlog, the lower priority federation consumer is in 
> play once all of the local consumer credit is exhausted and the backlog can 
> drain to the other cluster.
> If demand is low there, the process can repeat. limiting the rate of the 
> federation consumer can help but it is not ideal b/c when there is no local 
> demand, we want to have a high rate of migration.
>  
> A possible solution is to have the federation consumer manage its own credit 
> and only flow messages when the local queue is empty. Then flow a batch of 
> messages, and await again that the local queue is empty. In this way, there 
> is no thundering heard effect, but there is also fast migration of messages 
> once there is demand.
> the consumerWindowSize=0 is already in play for consumer.receive calls and 
> there is already a defaultConsumerWindowSize for an address. These can be 
> combined to realise batchFederationOnEmpty semantics.



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