[jira] [Commented] (HBASE-8770) deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum

2018-03-06 Thread Hudson (JIRA)

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Hudson commented on HBASE-8770:
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FAILURE: Integrated in Jenkins build HBase-Trunk_matrix #4703 (See 
[https://builds.apache.org/job/HBase-Trunk_matrix/4703/])
HBASE-8770 deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved (stack: rev 
1bafe4a028a5291fc958c1deab2960e3ba33263c)
* (edit) src/main/asciidoc/_chapters/datamodel.adoc


> deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
> -
>
> Key: HBASE-8770
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Assignee: stack
>Priority: Blocker
> Fix For: 3.0.0
>
> Attachments: HBASE-8770.branch-2.001.patch, 
> HBASE-8770.branch-2.002.patch
>
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
> What do you think?



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[jira] [Commented] (HBASE-8770) deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum

2018-03-06 Thread stack (JIRA)

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stack commented on HBASE-8770:
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bq. Is the performance penalty for this behavior due to having deleted versions 
count against max versions?  Or just for this change?

I've not done the profiling but if I were to hazard a guess, it would be the 
added parse on each compare of sequenceid. It is an after-thought on KeyValue 
done as a vint tacked on AFTER the 'value'.

bq. It really seems like this should become the default behavior for hbase at 
some major release, hopefully without any significant performance penalty

Agree sir.

> deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
> -
>
> Key: HBASE-8770
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Assignee: stack
>Priority: Blocker
> Fix For: 2.0.0
>
> Attachments: HBASE-8770.branch-2.001.patch, 
> HBASE-8770.branch-2.002.patch
>
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
> What do you think?



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[jira] [Commented] (HBASE-8770) deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum

2018-03-06 Thread Dave Latham (JIRA)

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Dave Latham commented on HBASE-8770:


Is the performance penalty for this behavior due to having deleted versions 
count against max versions?  Or just for this change?

 

It really seems like this should become the default behavior for hbase at some 
major release, hopefully without any significant performance penalty, 
independent of the question of whether deleted versions count against max 
versions.

> deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
> -
>
> Key: HBASE-8770
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Assignee: stack
>Priority: Blocker
> Fix For: 2.0.0
>
> Attachments: HBASE-8770.branch-2.001.patch, 
> HBASE-8770.branch-2.002.patch
>
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
> What do you think?



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[jira] [Commented] (HBASE-8770) deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum

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> Key: HBASE-8770
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Assignee: stack
>Priority: Blocker
> Fix For: 2.0.0
>
> Attachments: HBASE-8770.branch-2.001.patch, 
> HBASE-8770.branch-2.002.patch
>
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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[jira] [Commented] (HBASE-8770) deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum

2018-03-02 Thread stack (JIRA)

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stack commented on HBASE-8770:
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.002 incorporates feed back by [~Apache9] up on rb.

> deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
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> Key: HBASE-8770
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Assignee: stack
>Priority: Blocker
> Fix For: 2.0.0
>
> Attachments: HBASE-8770.branch-2.001.patch, 
> HBASE-8770.branch-2.002.patch
>
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Assignee: stack
>Priority: Blocker
> Fix For: 2.0.0
>
> Attachments: HBASE-8770.branch-2.001.patch
>
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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[jira] [Commented] (HBASE-8770) deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum

2018-03-01 Thread stack (JIRA)

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stack commented on HBASE-8770:
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.001 is doc on the HBASE-15968 feature, hopefully enough to close out this 
issue.

> deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
> -
>
> Key: HBASE-8770
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Priority: Blocker
> Fix For: 2.0.0
>
> Attachments: HBASE-8770.branch-2.001.patch
>
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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stack commented on HBASE-8770:
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HBASE-15968 does this. You need to set NEW_VERSION_BEHAVIOR on the column 
family. If you are replicating, you need to use serial replication. Let me 
update the doc and then resolve this issue.

> deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
> -
>
> Key: HBASE-8770
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Priority: Blocker
> Fix For: 2.0.0
>
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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[jira] [Commented] (HBASE-8770) deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum

2017-06-06 Thread Dave Latham (JIRA)

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Dave Latham commented on HBASE-8770:


> We will remove mvcc in HFile in minor compaction (to save capacity) and 
> delete/put will have same mvcc if they are in one same file.

I think that would be OK so long as we first order by seq id, then order Put 
ahead of Delete for the same seq id.  If we're compacting to an HFile, and the 
Put has higher seq id than the Delete, write them both, and the Put will stay 
visible.  If the Delete has a higher seq id than the Put, then just drop the 
Put as it should never be visible.  Would that work or am I missing something?

However, if we do switch to always keeping the seq id around, then the point is 
moot.  Except for the next case of an atomic RowMutation with Put and Delete 
having the same seq id.  Then we have to make a call ont he semantic.  I think 
it's more useful to favor the Put over the Delete (would solve HBASE-8626 also).

> deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
> -
>
> Key: HBASE-8770
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Priority: Critical
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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stack commented on HBASE-8770:
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bq. We will remove mvcc in HFile in minor compaction (to save capacity) and 
delete/put will have same mvcc if they are in one same file.

We should not do this, right?

bq. At least we should always keep mvcc in HFiles just like HBASE-15968 does.

Agree.

bq. But we need more tests (I am testing in our own cluster) and I am not sure 
if it can be a default behavior because the performance will be a little worse 
and a new feature may have some bugs... And I am not sure if the patch is still 
right if we compare mvcc first before type. Need more checking.

This sounds like an argument for committing it early. The perf downgrade I can 
see because mvcc/sequenceid is unfortunately a second-class citizen at least 
until HLC is done.  Thats tough. But the stuff about needs more checking and 
maybe bugs we should be able to live with. Correctness first. Perf is 
secondary. What you think [~yangzhe1991]?


> deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
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>
> Key: HBASE-8770
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Priority: Critical
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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2017-06-05 Thread Phil Yang (JIRA)

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Phil Yang commented on HBASE-8770:
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bq. If not, would simply changing the sort order to order by seq id before cell 
type for this issue be a possibility for 2.0?

We will remove mvcc in HFile in minor compaction (to save capacity) and 
delete/put will have same mvcc if they are in one same file. If I am not wrong 
we can not just change the comparator :( At least we should always keep mvcc in 
HFiles just like HBASE-15968 does.

bq. Is there hope for HBASE-15968 to make it into 2.0?

The patch is available and I think we can get it in after rebasing and 
reviewing. But we need more tests (I am testing in our own cluster) and I am 
not sure if it can be a default behavior because the performance will be a 
little worse and a new feature may have some bugs... So I prefer to always keep 
mvcc in HFile by default, compare mvcc before type by default, but the other 
behavior is configurable.

> deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
> -
>
> Key: HBASE-8770
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Priority: Critical
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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2017-06-05 Thread Dave Latham (JIRA)

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Dave Latham commented on HBASE-8770:


Thanks, [~yangzhe1991].  Is there hope for HBASE-15968 to make it into 2.0?  I 
don't see activity there for several months.
If not, would simply changing the sort order to order by seq id before cell 
type for this issue be a possibility for 2.0?

> deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
> -
>
> Key: HBASE-8770
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Priority: Critical
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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Phil Yang commented on HBASE-8770:
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We are fixing HBASE-15968 which is more complicated because we have delete 
versions which will delete all Puts whose ts is not larger than it. So the 
delete marker and put may not be same. But after HBASE-15968 being fixed this 
issue will be also fixed.

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> Key: HBASE-8770
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Priority: Critical
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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[jira] [Commented] (HBASE-8770) deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum

2017-06-02 Thread stack (JIRA)

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stack commented on HBASE-8770:
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[~yangzhe1991] you fellows fixed this?  Yeah, it is wrong that no matter what a 
delete sorts first.

How could we change this for 2.0. Code change would be simple enough in 
comparator

> deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
> -
>
> Key: HBASE-8770
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Priority: Critical
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
> What do you think?



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[jira] [Commented] (HBASE-8770) deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum

2017-06-02 Thread Dave Latham (JIRA)

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Dave Latham commented on HBASE-8770:


for an app using client-set meaningful timestamps, sure wishing this was 
already in hbase.  have anyone's thoughts changed on it.  any chance it could 
land in 2.0?

> deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
> -
>
> Key: HBASE-8770
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
> Project: HBase
>  Issue Type: Brainstorming
>Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
>Priority: Critical
>
> This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
> It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
> put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
> What do you think?



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[jira] [Commented] (HBASE-8770) deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum

2014-05-19 Thread stack (JIRA)

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stack commented on HBASE-8770:
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Fixing this makes sense to me.  Especially after unification of MVCC and seqid 
and if seqid lives on into hfiles -- if not per key, at least keep around a 
seqid on the file.  As is, the behavior 'surprises'.  HBASE-9905 is something 
else.

Fix seems 'simple' enough, changing the order at which we evaluate Cell/KV 
elements in the comparator;  we'd swap (or remove type consideration) with 
sequence id in the order in which we run the compare.

 deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
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 Key: HBASE-8770
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
 Project: HBase
  Issue Type: Brainstorming
Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
Priority: Critical

 This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
 It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
 put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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[jira] [Commented] (HBASE-8770) deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum

2014-05-19 Thread Enis Soztutar (JIRA)

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Enis Soztutar commented on HBASE-8770:
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bq. Fix seems 'simple' enough, changing the order at which we evaluate Cell/KV 
elements in the comparator; we'd swap (or remove type consideration) with 
sequence id in the order in which we run the compare.
+1 to what Stack says. 

 deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
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 Key: HBASE-8770
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
 Project: HBase
  Issue Type: Brainstorming
Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
Priority: Critical

 This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
 It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
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[jira] [Commented] (HBASE-8770) deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum

2014-05-16 Thread Lars Hofhansl (JIRA)

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Lars Hofhansl commented on HBASE-8770:
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This comes up about once/year :)
Idempotent operations are an important feature of HBase. This would break this, 
so I am -0 on this approach.

 deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
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 Key: HBASE-8770
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
 Project: HBase
  Issue Type: Brainstorming
Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
Priority: Critical

 This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
 It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
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2014-05-16 Thread Sergey Shelukhin (JIRA)

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Sergey Shelukhin commented on HBASE-8770:
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...that is not already broken, I mean. retries can still create multiple 
records with different ts

 deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
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 Key: HBASE-8770
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
 Project: HBase
  Issue Type: Brainstorming
Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
Priority: Critical

 This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
 It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
 put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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2014-05-16 Thread Sergey Shelukhin (JIRA)

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Sergey Shelukhin commented on HBASE-8770:
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What would it break?

 deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
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 Key: HBASE-8770
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
 Project: HBase
  Issue Type: Brainstorming
Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin
Priority: Critical

 This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
 It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
 put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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[jira] [Commented] (HBASE-8770) deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum

2013-11-06 Thread stack (JIRA)

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stack commented on HBASE-8770:
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I believe that the Delete always sorting before the Put was an arbitrary choice 
way-back-when.  Yes, type should not be a factor and rather it should be 
sequenceid.  But then we'd need to have a sequenceid in the key so that 
everywhere order was respected?

 deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
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 Key: HBASE-8770
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
 Project: HBase
  Issue Type: Brainstorming
Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin

 This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
 It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
 put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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2013-11-06 Thread Sergey Shelukhin (JIRA)

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Sergey Shelukhin commented on HBASE-8770:
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Between-file conflicts can be resolved using file seqids.
When we write one file (flush/compaction), we can write seqids only for 
conflicting keys (row+cf+q+ts). Should be relatively small load. We already 
have space for mvcc in KV and [~enis] purports to merge mvcc and seqId. Or we 
can store it in tags.

 deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
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 Key: HBASE-8770
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
 Project: HBase
  Issue Type: Brainstorming
Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin

 This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
 It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
 put, rather than also being resolve by seqNum.
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Enis Soztutar commented on HBASE-8770:
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Linking HBASE-9905. We might as well do that instead of this. 

 deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
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 Key: HBASE-8770
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
 Project: HBase
  Issue Type: Brainstorming
Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin

 This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
 It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
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2013-11-06 Thread Sergey Shelukhin (JIRA)

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Sergey Shelukhin commented on HBASE-8770:
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There was another issue today where user does use equal TS (put ts 100m, put ts 
200, del-version ts 200, then later put ts 200). 
This would solve both problems... I think HBASE-9905 we can also do

 deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
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 Key: HBASE-8770
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
 Project: HBase
  Issue Type: Brainstorming
Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin

 This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
 It's not clear why deletes with the same ts as a put should always mask the 
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stack commented on HBASE-8770:
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You raise a valid point.

Our current implementation factors in kv type when comparing.  It shouldn't 
really.  To fix, we'd have to have sequenceid in the kv.

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 Key: HBASE-8770
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
 Project: HBase
  Issue Type: Brainstorming
Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin

 This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
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2013-06-19 Thread Sergey Shelukhin (JIRA)

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Sergey Shelukhin commented on HBASE-8770:
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Not really, we can compare them the same way as we do now, using file seqNum

 deletes and puts with the same ts should be resolved according to mvcc/seqNum
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 Key: HBASE-8770
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HBASE-8770
 Project: HBase
  Issue Type: Brainstorming
Reporter: Sergey Shelukhin

 This came up during HBASE-8721. Puts with the same ts are resolved by seqNum. 
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