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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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bq. My intent was not to squash your opinions, but to avoid being blocked if
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
bq. I'm not messing with you, Appy. Check the push logs/comments
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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Hmm, did I insult someone savagely, [~elserj]?
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
[~vrodionov] that's also plenty shit-slinging from you too on
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
Also, again, if you want this reverted, please say so.
> Add
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
bq. I did say it was okay to go in master, but that's like 4
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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that's precisely the reason why i can't
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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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If your mental radar doesn't tick-off in loud red alarms between the time of
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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I did say it was okay to go in master,
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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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Commit date is 12th jan
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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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Okay, f**k it, I really don't want to waste anymore of my time fighting some
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
bq. I'll can't believe that because I can't believe that..
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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Wasn't the said patch objected against
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stack commented on HBASE-17852:
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{quote}The majority of this code (but not all) went into master inĀ
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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he had random urge to delete all previous
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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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bq. There was nothing malicious intending to happen here
I'll can't
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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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bq. Nope, it turned out that this patch (HBASE-17852) also fixes the issue
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
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HBASE-19568 had basically everything that was objected
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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Nope, it turned out that this patch (HBASE-17852)
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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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Forget all the design discussion, that's not important anymore.
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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I will quote myself
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I will rebase patch
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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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I see only patch v10 in the attached files, and all it's doing is changing
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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[~appy] we have fully functional module already,
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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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Man(lightly shaking head side-to-side)...such strong responses when we
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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[~appy] wrote:
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Of the top of my head, I
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
{quote}I'm fine with this landing in master.
I'll try to take a
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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For now, what do you think are the
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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I will rebase patch to the current master. The
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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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I said hbase-backup --> hbase-server above because backup needs snapshot.
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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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Adding more, so the likely dependencies will end up being:
hbase-backup -->
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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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Replication is doing it, but it's already in hbase-server module so it's
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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So, we are returning back to procV2 and tight
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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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I'm fine with this landing in master.
I'll try to take a thorough look at
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
bq. I'd prefer to see this land in master, then we take the
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
bq. Yea, retry would be good. File a JIRA?
HBASE-19441. Tagged
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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[~appy],
# Only Admin user can run backups,
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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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bq. To try to move the conversation forward, I tend to agree with Vlad that
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Mike Drob commented on HBASE-17852:
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bq. This is much easier to fix, than concurrent backup sessions
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
bq. The current options appear to be wait until the backup
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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The problem is that backups and restores
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Mike Drob commented on HBASE-17852:
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bq. because backup sessions always update shared records.
This
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Mike Drob commented on HBASE-17852:
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The problem is that backups and restores cannot occur
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
bq. Hmm... I don't think we can publish backup/restore without
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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When we switch away from
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Mike Drob commented on HBASE-17852:
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When we switch away from restore-via-snapshot and have proper
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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There were concerns above on cross RS rpc
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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What happens if during an ongoing backup,
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Appy commented on HBASE-17852:
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Few questions:
Pardon me if my high level analysis of design is off. Is
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Mike Drob commented on HBASE-17852:
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Hmm... I don't think we can publish backup/restore without
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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Yes, concurrent backup support will require some
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Mike Drob commented on HBASE-17852:
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Thank you for pointing at the parent ticket, I missed that there
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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The approach described in this JIRA description
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Mike Drob commented on HBASE-17852:
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bq. not a generic questions: Why have you chosen this design
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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I was about to write that I thought it was
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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I'm not sure what this is intended to
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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It seems like the feature is being moved
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
bq. Operators who'd rather avoid reading logs and having to run
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Mike Drob commented on HBASE-17852:
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bq. The reason is the simplicity of the implementation. Is not
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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The reason is the simplicity of the
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Mike Drob commented on HBASE-17852:
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[~vrodionov] - I think Josh clarified Stack's question to explain
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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My attitude? Nice. Maybe yours? I tried several
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stack commented on HBASE-17852:
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Moving out of beta-1. I ask questions and get rubbish back.
Contributor
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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You don't answer the question
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stack commented on HBASE-17852:
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bq. Can you post your comments on RB, Stack?
Traditionally it is the
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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f the standard-procedures would be to run
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
I think the only outstanding code-review comment from [~stack]
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
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bq.Why do this? Why not just mark the backup as
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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Why do this? Why not just mark the backup
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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What of my review comments are addressed
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stack commented on HBASE-17852:
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Write-up helps. Some questions.
bq. When operation fails on a server
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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Let me just assume this stuff is handled,
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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My gut reaction is that the number of
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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2) recover from client side failure (and,
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
bq. I am not asking for any particular implementation, to be
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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This isn't helpful and, likely, directly
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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There is nothing wrong with snapshot approach
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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Vlad, you seem to be doing your utmost to
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stack commented on HBASE-17852:
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bq. Stack, are you essentially asking why this isn't implemented on top of
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
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In hbase2, we have builders for the below instead...
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Josh Elser commented on HBASE-17852:
bq. This is going to confuse. 'system' tables have a particular
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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So, the idea to offline a system table and
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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You suggest I review code. I have been
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Hadoop QA commented on HBASE-17852:
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stack commented on HBASE-17852:
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My comments above are not in RB. Were they addressed?
Patches should
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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You can find them as fixed on RB:
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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The snapshot/restore of a whole system
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stack commented on HBASE-17852:
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bq. v6 addresses some of the RB comments
Which comments were addressed?
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stack commented on HBASE-17852:
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bq. That is why we take snapshot of a backup system table and restore this
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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Backup/Delete/Merge operations must be executed in
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stack commented on HBASE-17852:
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Thanks for the pointer. I'd not read it previous. It does not answer my
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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Please, refer to a parent ticket for description
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stack commented on HBASE-17852:
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bq. When backup fails, we restore backup system table from snapshot.
Why
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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In the patch, it is called a ' Backup
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Vladimir Rodionov commented on HBASE-17852:
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How do general backup ops and bulk loaded
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