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--- Comment #54 from Andrey Repin  ---
It seems fixed on my end.
At least, I'm unable to reproduce the original issue using
AOO4115m2(Build:9813)  -  Rev. 5f13fa0070 from 2023-11-20 17:44.

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--- Comment #53 from Matthias Seidel  ---
Setting this as FIXED now...

Please test with AOO 4.1.15-RC2:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.15-RC2/binaries/

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--- Comment #52 from Matthias Seidel  ---
Cherry-picked for AOO42X with:
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/2a19c4c2b3b9385d8893e4a44875be5775525cd0

Cherry-picked for AOO41X with:
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--- Comment #51 from Matthias Seidel  ---
Committed to trunk with:
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/f0439fff86115a6959e104fea345d175528afdf0

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--- Comment #50 from Czesław Wolański  ---
Hi Arrigo,

Just tested on Windows (7 & 11) with
- ru (full)
- en-US (full) + ru (langpack).

It works i.e. no problem with "Save As...".

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--- Comment #49 from Arrigo Marchiori  ---
Here is an English US build:
http://home.apache.org/~ardovm/openoffice/bug126680/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.14_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe

It _should_ also work if you install this and then a langpack from 4.1.14.

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--- Comment #48 from Arrigo Marchiori  ---
A Russian build for Windows of version 4.1.14-RC1 that includes the patch is
available here:
http://home.apache.org/~ardovm/openoffice/bug126680/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.14_Win_x86_install_ru.exe

Feel free to contact me if you would like to test builds for other languages.

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Pull request: https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/171

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--- Comment #46 from Peter  ---
> This does not seem right IMHO. Removing that part allows each 
> TransliterationWrapper 
> instance to have its own Transliteration_caseignore instance.
I agree.

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--- Comment #45 from Arrigo Marchiori  ---
At a second thought, forcing all transliterations to follow the same rules may
not be the correct way to follow.

This bug shows that different parts of the code require different
transliteration rules. This can be confirmed by searching the code for
instantiations of the TransliterationWrapper class:

main/basic/source/runtime/methods.cxx
main/sc/source/core/data/global.cxx (2 occurrences)
main/sc/source/ui/docshell/impex.cxx
main/svl/inc/svl/ondemand.hxx (2 occurrences)
main/sw/source/core/bastyp/init.cxx
main/vcl/source/app/i18nhelp.cxx

Plus all the occurrences of OnDemandTransliterationWrapper::get().

It may make sense to have several Transliteration_caseignore instances, instead
of a "singleton". The Transliteration_caseignore class itself does not seem to
have been designed to be a singleton, IMHO.

The "singleton effect" is given by a "caching" inside method
TransliterationImpl::loadBody(): when multiple instances of the same class are
requested in a row, the first one is returned all the times.

This does not seem right IMHO. Removing that part allows each
TransliterationWrapper instance to have its own Transliteration_caseignore
instance.

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--- Comment #44 from Arrigo Marchiori  ---
Method com::sun::star::i18n::Transliteration_caseignore::loadModule() is used
to load "modules" for processing text.

There seems to be only one instance of Transliteration_caseignore for the whole
program (a "singleton").
Such instance is accessed via a utl::TransliterationWrapper instance.

There are several place where a TransliterationWrapper is constructed:

 1- ScGlobal::GetpTransliteration() -- specific for OpenOffice Calc. The object
is created with module TransliterationModules_IGNORE_CASE

 2- vcl::I18nHelper::ImplGetTransliterationWrapper(). The object is created
with modules TransliterationModules_IGNORE_CASE and
TransliterationModules_IGNORE_WIDTH.

 3- OnDemandTransliterationWrapper::get(). The object is created with the
modules passed to the OnDemandTransliterationWrapper constructor.
In fact, it also has a zero-parameter constructor, and the modules are passed
to the OnDemandTransliterationWrapper::init() method. This happens in
SvNumberFormatter::ImpConstruct. The IGNORE_CASE is the only module requested.

In fact, construction no. 2- instructs the singleton instance of
Transliteration_caseignore to load the IGNORE_WIDTH module alongside the
IGNORE_CASE.
This construction, in one case I could observe, is requested by method
ComboBox::ImplUpdateFloatSelection(). This looks like something that could
happen at any time.

Construction no. 1- and 3- are equivalent, because they request the same single
module IGNORE_CASE.

Construction no. 2- is frequently happening after the test document is loaded,
and before it is saved, therefore invalidating the in-memory list of database
ranges.

I believe that fixing this problem will consist of having both IGNORE_CASE and
IGNORE_WIDTH indicated in all attempts to construct a TransliterationWrapper. I
will try to follow this path and report here my results.

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   |non-Latin alphabets |non-Latin alphabets, due to
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--- Comment #43 from Arrigo Marchiori  ---
Concentrating on the cyrillic build: method
Transliteration_caseignore::compare() is responsible for comparing strings.

The cyrillic word starts with 'б', that is the Unicode code point U+0431,
"Cyrillic small letter Be".

The first letter of the compared ASCII string is 'S'.

When the file is _loaded_ this 'S' is represented with code point U+0073,
"Latin small letter S".

When the file is _saved_ the same 'S' is represented with code point U+ff53,
"Fullwidth Latin small letter S".

These two codepoints are respectively ``smaller'' and ``bigger'' than U+0431
and this gives the problem: the database ranges, in memory, are not sorted
correctly any more.

If we close and reopen the same file, the second time 'S' is again represented
as U+ff53 _at loading time_. This allows the save to succeed.

When I wrote ``represented'' above, I meant the value returned by:
casefolding::getNextChar(). We must understand why the behavior of this method
changes at some point during AOO execution.

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   |in ODS with Russian or  |in ODS with builds using
   |Ukrainian build |non-Latin alphabets

--- Comment #42 from Arrigo Marchiori  ---
Problem reproduced with trunk builds, languages zh-TW and zh-CN.

The words 未命名 and 未命名 show the same problem as their cyrillic counterparts.

This issue is due to non-Latin alphabets.

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--- Comment #41 from Arrigo Marchiori  ---
The problem seems to involve the "Database ranges".

The document contains a range named "StatsList".
Another range is present, that is named "unnamed" on en-US builds, "безіменний"
on uk build.

The ranges are listed in a ScDBCollection, that inherits from
ScSortedCollection.
This means that the entries are supposed to be listed in alphabetical order.

This is the culprit: for some reason, when the collection is _populated_ (i.e.
when the example document is opened and loaded into memory), the comparison
done by ScGlobal::GetpTransliteration()->compareString() returns a different
value, than when the collection is _accessed_ to save the file.
This is unexpected an an exception is thrown while the document is saved.

Did anyone test this with a trunk build?

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--- Comment #40 from Arrigo Marchiori  ---
Problem reproduced also with Ukrainian (uk) build.

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--- Comment #39 from Andrey Repin  ---
Any updates?

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--- Comment #38 from Andrey Repin  ---
(In reply to oooforum (fr) from comment #36)
> (In reply to Andrey Repin from comment #27)
> > Reportedly, the bug is well-known in a russian community, and one possible
> > workaround is to reset the file metadata.
> Could you be more explicit about this method?

Does not work in all cases, but it's in File -> Properties -> Reset. There's
two of these buttons.

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--- Comment #37 from Czesław Wolański  ---
(In reply to oooforum (fr) from comment #35)
> Created attachment 87143 [details]
> Screenshot
> 
> Weird, I see an old ODF icon in Save dialog for the document.

Indeed, it may seem weird but one can get used to it.  ;-)
(on Windows 7, this sometimes happens with AOO and OOo installations)

A recording (Windows 11, 4.1.13 en-US + ru, no weird icons whatsoever)
is available at the following link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Z8ReL52iA5-SDbWQdZu59JHk5jc-pPk1/view?usp=sharing

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--- Comment #36 from oooforum (fr)  ---
(In reply to Andrey Repin from comment #27)
> Reportedly, the bug is well-known in a russian community, and one possible
> workaround is to reset the file metadata.
Could you be more explicit about this method?

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Screenshot

Weird, I see an old ODF icon in Save dialog for the document.

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--- Comment #34 from Czesław Wolański  ---
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Illustration of the reported issue

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--- Comment #33 from Czesław Wolański  ---
Confirmed on Windows (7,11) with 4.1.13
- full: ru
- full: en-US + langpack: ru

Russian UI, OpenOffice / Windows file dialog

(cf. attached .gif file)

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--- Comment #32 from Dick Groskamp  ---
4.1.13/NL No problem Save as  Example.ods. Smoothly

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--- Comment #31 from Andrey Repin  ---
4.1.13/RU exhibits exactly same issue.

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--- Comment #30 from Keith N. McKenna  ---
Given all the evidence gathered by Andrey both on his own and on the Russian
Forum I am going to set this as Confirmed. At this point it appears to be
dependent on using a Russian UI either as direct download in Russian or with a
Russian language pack.

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--- Comment #29 from Andrey Repin  ---
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Mac version info

Reproduced on MacOS 10.11.6 / AOO 4.1.3 (Integrated russian langpack)

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--- Comment #28 from Andrey Repin  ---
Another interesting sequence of events discovered with help of the community:
1. On a freshly booted system, open the example codument.
2. If you attempt to "Save as" it, it will fail, as described.
3. Close the document, leaving program window open.
4. Open it back and try to "Save as". Surprize! It saved without a hitch.

The investigation of the saved document shows that there's minor changes in
meta.xml/settings.xml/styles.xml (changed times and application build numbers),
but there's also changes in the actual "content.xml", even though we did not
edit the file. These changes could be rather substantial (people reported
wildly different results, with up to double the resulting file size, comparing
to the original) and are hard to evaluate.

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--- Comment #27 from Andrey Repin  ---
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Another workaround.

Reportedly, the bug is well-known in a russian community, and one possible
workaround is to reset the file metadata.

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--- Comment #26 from Andrey Repin  ---
The tripping line it seems is an extensive use of autolfilters.
And a workaround is to set decimal separator to a period in regional settings.
Then you can save the document. At least that worked for me this time.

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--- Comment #25 from oooforum (fr)  ---
Maybe (In reply to Keith N. McKenna from comment #24)
> Can someone using a Russian UI please try to confirm this so it can be
> advanced.
+1
We don't have mailing list in this language.
But OP could post directly to the russian forum:
http://forumooo.ru

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--- Comment #24 from Keith N. McKenna  ---
Can someone using a Russian UI please try to confirm this so it can be
advanced.

Andrey until we can get independent confirmation of this issue there is really
little that can be done. I have set the needhelp tag and am asking that another
person using a Russian UI try to confirm this.

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--- Comment #23 from Andrey Repin  ---
Any movement on the bug? I just got bitten by it in an important work document.
Which I can not save in MS Excel format, because it uses column grouping
incompatible with Excel.
Why should I lose several hours of hard work?

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--- Comment #22 from Andrey Repin  ---
AOO415m1(Build:9789)  -  Rev. 1817496
2017-12-11 17:25

Still same issue.

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--- Comment #21 from Andrey Repin  ---
AOO413m1(Build:9783)  -  Rev. 1761381
2016-09-29 02:39:19

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--- Comment #20 from Andrey Repin  ---
Yes. Same error, same reproduction steps.

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--- Comment #19 from oooforum (fr)  ---
4.1.3 is available.
Did you still have this issue with the last build?

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--- Comment #18 from Andrey Repin  ---
If there's some steps I can perform to produce useful debugging output, I can
do that. Just point the way.

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--- Comment #17 from Andrey Repin  ---
That's not the right question.
Right question would be "how localization could possible affect file saving?"…
Someone played with locale and forgot that not everyone using commas as
thousand separators?

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--- Comment #16 from Theodore Matula  ---
Maybe a problem unique to the Russian version?

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--- Comment #15 from Andrey Repin  ---
Tried that just out of desperation.
Same but save problem.
Install en-US - new user profile - open document - save - all fine.
Install langpack - new user profile - open document - save - "Impossible to
save". (I think that would be more precise reverse translation of "Невозможно
сохранить файл".)

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--- Comment #14 from Andrey Repin  ---
English (en-US) OO saves the document just fine.
Russian fails with "unable to save".

That's… http://kolobok.us/smiles/madhouse/dash2.gif

Do you want me to, perhaps, try En-US + Langpack?

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--- Comment #13 from Andrey Repin  ---
In at least two cases it was freshly generated user profile for 4.1.2 version.
As I said, I'll try again with fresh English version, once this latest system
stop wasting my time. (It installing updates for the last 20 gours already.)

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--- Comment #12 from oooforum (fr)  ---
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> If just changing localization would make a difference, my faith in AOO will
> drop a good few points down.
No difference, but I don't speak russian.

Are you reset your AOO profile?

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--- Comment #11 from Andrey Repin  ---
I'll, of course, try it. I've been busy with work and I don't have any ready VM
that I can fiddle with right now.

But…

If just changing localization would make a difference, my faith in AOO will
drop a good few points down.

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--- Comment #10 from oooforum (fr)  ---
I see that you use a russian UI.
Could you try directly with an en_US version?

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--- Comment #9 from Andrey Repin  ---
If you have trouble reproducing it, the only way I could see this resolved is
I'm uloading a complete VM installed with Office, ready to demonstrate the
issue.

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--- Comment #7 from oooforum  ---
Start Windows in Safe Mode and run OpenOffice when Windows is in that mode. 
Try to repeat your "save as" operation.

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--- Comment #8 from Andrey Repin  ---
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Safe mode…

Safe mode didn't quite work.

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--- Comment #4 from Andrey Repin  ---
Speaking of saves. May be one of you could re-save the document and attach the
resulting one for investigation?

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--- Comment #5 from Keith N. McKenna  ---
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Resulting document after a save as from original example.ods

Attached is the resulting document from my doing a "save as" with our original
example.ods

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--- Comment #1 from Regina Henschel  ---
I cannot reproduce the problem. I open the attached document and save it using
"save as" without any problem. I have tried it with Windows' file dialog and
with AOOs file dialog.

I use AOO412m3(Build:9782)  -  Rev. 1709696
2015-10-21 09:53:29 (Mi, 21 Okt 2015)
on Windows 7.

Are your sure the destination is writeable? Do you use a local destination?

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--- Comment #2 from Keith N. McKenna  ---
Like Regina I cannot confirm this. I can open and "save as" with no problem.
Tested with both Windows native file dialogue and the OpenOffice file dialogue.

System Configuration:
Processor: Intel Core i5 CPU M560 @2.67GHz
Installed Memory: 2.00 GB (1.6 usable)
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

Apache Open Office:
AOO412m3(Build:9782)  -  Rev. 1709696
2015-10-21 09:53:29 (Mi, 21 Okt 2015)
Language: en_US
Additional Language Packs: None

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--- Comment #6 from Andrey Repin  ---
Great. Same problem. Unable to save.
I'll take a closer look at the structure of the two files tomorrow. No idea
what I'm looking for, but we'll see.

I'm still interested in the ideas on how to track the problem.

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--- Comment #3 from Andrey Repin  ---
Yes, the destination is local (Documents dir in a local profile), and yes the
destination is writable.
Like I said, the same program was used to save the same file just a few hours
ago. I didn't even restart the system after that save.
But now every attempt at saving the file resulted in a message (approx.):

-- OpenOffice 4.1.2 --
Error while saving document example:
Write error.
Unable to write file.
[Ok]

I've tried to save it right now on a five different systems with the same AOO
version (4.1.2/ru) - same effect.
Though antivirus may be affecting, but disabling it did nothing to the effect.

If you think it may be an environmental issue, I'd like to hear your
suggestions as to how to trace it down to the root.

(BTW, what's wrong with standard Win32 MessageBox that OpenOffice does not use
it for notifications? I had to retype the error message by hands instead of
just Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V it... WTF?)

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