Re: [iText-questions] What action is requred in terms of License

> > Autonomy just announced Q1 results with $194.2 million in > revenue, apparently a record. > > Developers: push your product managers to pay reasonable > licensing fees. You have No Idea... --Mark Storer Senior Software Engineer Cardiff.com import legalese.Disclaimer; Disclaimer DisC

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imer DisCard = null; > > > >> -Original Message----- >> From: David Hoffer [mailto:dhoff...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:09 AM >> To: Post all your questions about iText here >> Subject: Re: [iText-questions] What action is requred in >>

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t with iTextSoftware (yet). --Mark Storer Senior Software Engineer Cardiff.com import legalese.Disclaimer; Disclaimer DisCard = null; > -Original Message- > From: David Hoffer [mailto:dhoff...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:09 AM > To: Post all your qu

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Hi, while i agree with most of the comments but i want to add one more aspect of the picture: There are different kinds of open source libraries and i would like to differentiate in two groups (correct me if i am wrong here): 1. GPL like -> when used in a project the sourcecode has to be opensour

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I'm not trying to vote for a fork just pointing out that someone in this thread (or recent thread) said they DID fork; so if your thinking of doing the same you might want to share resources with one that already did the fork. -Dave On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:49 AM, 1T3XT info wrote: > Michael Ol

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> Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:49:47 +0200 > From: i...@1t3xt.info > To: itext-questions@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [iText-questions] What action is requred in terms of License > > Michael Olenick wrote: >> Pe

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Michael Olenick wrote: > People -- Call or write to Bruno's sales agent. Thanks! I've had a speed course in economics at http://www.vlerick.com/ last year, discovering there's more to the IT business than writing code. It's all about the business model, not just the business model used for iTe

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edded PDF generation technology. Michael. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Bruno Lowagie wrote: >> Original-Nachricht >>> Datum: Fri, 7 May 2010 14:19:41 +0200 >>> Von: TvT >>> An: Post all your questions about iText here >>> &g

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> Original-Nachricht >> Datum: Fri, 7 May 2010 14:19:41 +0200 >> Von: TvT >> An: Post all your questions about iText here >> >> Betreff: Re: [iText-questions] What action is requred in terms of License > >> Just read the who

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out iText here > > Betreff: Re: [iText-questions] What action is requred in terms of License > Just read the whole thread and it sounded like the internal discussion we > had in our company as well. > We are willing to pay for such a great lib, however not 10K-12,5K which >

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Just read the whole thread and it sounded like the internal discussion we had in our company as well. We are willing to pay for such a great lib, however not 10K-12,5K which would basically eat up the budget. Of course one can argue that the project calculation/budget is wrong but reality is more c

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Bruno, That's good information. IMHO, the price of your book is a steal...lots of good information for $60. I purchased through Manning and paid $65.24 with all fees/etc. No problem with that. I hope you sell lots of copies so you can make up in volume what you loose in what seems a low royalt

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Michael Schmodt wrote: > I hope, I didn't upset you. This is not what I want. As I said, I like > iText very much and would like to use it in the future. I respect your > decission to change the license and to get a share from the profits of > those, who use your lib. Try to see this debate as a

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Michael Olenick wrote: > Bruno should not have to deal with either. Thanks for yet another insightful contribution to the mailing list. As I explained in my previous mail, my main focus right now is the book, but this thread is bookmarked for when I have the time to talk to the sales people about

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2010/4/25 David Hoffer > I don't disagree with the last couple replies, however I will point > out that iText is the one that caused the mis-expectations on price. > Since prior versions cost $0 it is quite a shock to learn that new > versions cost $12,500. (Please understand I'm not saying $0 i

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build the final app.  If you are delivering binary, that's a different > issue. > > Leonard > > -Original Message- > From: David Hoffer [mailto:dhoff...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 9:29 AM > To: Post all your questions about iText here > Subjec

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ing binary, that's a different issue. Leonard -Original Message- From: David Hoffer [mailto:dhoff...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 9:29 AM To: Post all your questions about iText here Subject: Re: [iText-questions] What action is requred in terms of License In my case

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Bruno shouldn't be "proud" of the price of iText because they are way, way too low. I see here questions that involve the other side of software engineering: the part many people ignore. So this is a digression, but maybe not: similar to people who ask obvious questions about iText but since they

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Michael Schmodt wrote: > I am programming as a freelancer for customers who pay me > and the 5000 $ is the wage for the whole project that take about one > month. In that case, you are building tailor made solutions for customer. That's not the same as building a commercial product. You should a

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In my case I was quoted a minimum charge of $1500 and a max of $12,500 depending on the number of end users. All charges except the maximum require quarterly reporting of the number of end users. The problems with this are many. I too am a freelance programmer developing a small app for a client

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Hi Bruno, thank you very much for the clarification. I wrote to sa...@itextpdf.com and described what type of application I am developing. I am programming as a freelancer for customers who pay me and the 5000 $ is the wage for the whole projects that take about one month (and not 5 days) to comple

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Michael Schmodt wrote: > P.S. I can post the mail from the sales department with the licensing > details, if you want. The prices are not my idea, but I received the > list from itextsoftware.com . I think you should post this to sa...@itextpdf.com because I think you a

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P.S. I can post the mail from the sales department with the licensing details, if you want. The prices are not my idea, but I received the list from itextsoftware.com. -- ___ iTex

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> What is the problem? > > Instead of complaining, you should start explaining. > > There are very cheap licenses for iText, cheaper than what is claimed > here. Although more expensive than the $5 some people want to pay, which > is kind of insulting, don't you agree? > > Hi Bruno, the license fee

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Cameron Laird wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:45 PM, David Hoffer > wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > I feel your pain, I am in similar situation. The commercial side of > the licensing is geared for very big projects only, nothing small. I > had no

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On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:45 PM, David Hoffer wrote: > Hi Michael, > > I feel your pain, I am in similar situation. The commercial side of > the licensing is geared for very big projects only, nothing small. I > had no choice but to use 2.x and FOP will be next if I need more. > Again I don't n

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Hi Campus, as far as I can see, there are different licenses depending on the type of application. For desktop installations (when itext is shipped with an application) for the first 250 desktop installations you have to pay 3000 $ and it goes up to 25 000 $ for 5 000 to 50 000 copies. So it gets c

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Hi Michael, I feel your pain, I am in similar situation. The commercial side of the licensing is geared for very big projects only, nothing small. I had no choice but to use 2.x and FOP will be next if I need more. Again I don't need free but I need something manageable. -Dave On Thu, Apr 22,

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Hi, > The license fees were magnitudes beyond the complete > project budgets with very strict obligations. I am really willing to > obtain a license and to pay several 100 $ for it and I find it > absolutely ok for the developers to earn money with their fantastic > library. But: The current licen

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2010/4/22 Bruno Lowagie > Michael Olenick wrote: > > If you're making money from iText -- with "making money" being defined > > as somebody is paying you -- you should pay for it. There's a lot of > > hard work that went into the creation and support of this awesome > > tool. > > Thanks! > best

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Then tell them what the project is and what you can afford. Seriously -- that applies for all software components. If you're working for a Fortune 1000 call the person who licenses software and ask them to work something out. If you're working for a smaller company, or on your own, know that if

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Hey, I'm not saying they shouldn't be able to make money from this product. But I take issue with ""making money" being defined as somebody is paying you". I thought making money was defined as what's left over after expenses. The cost is too high for small projects. Only the U.S. Government ca

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Michael Olenick wrote: > If you're making money from iText -- with "making money" being defined > as somebody is paying you -- you should pay for it. There's a lot of > hard work that went into the creation and support of this awesome > tool. Thanks! best regards, Bruno

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If you're making money from iText -- with "making money" being defined as somebody is paying you -- you should pay for it. There's a lot of hard work that went into the creation and support of this awesome tool. The licensing scheme they have for v. 5.0 is already incredibly generous; too generou

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David Hoffer wrote: > No, versions prior to 5.x had the more friendly license. Nuance: more friendly for people who want to write even more unfriendly code. The license is still friendly for people who write software as friendly as iText. -- This answer is provided by 1T3XT BVBA http://www.1t3x

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ntario.ca] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 2:43 PM To: Post all your questions about iText here Subject: Re: [iText-questions] What action is requred in terms of License In our case, we will have a Websphere running on the server side with iText 5 jar file, our intranet employees will use browsers

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thanks! Tao From: Paulo Soares [mailto:psoa...@glintt.com] Sent: April 22, 2010 9:08 AM To: Post all your questions about iText here Subject: Re: [iText-questions] What action is requred in terms of License The intranet I was referring to was in a company

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isipr...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:45 PM To: Post all your questions about iText here Subject: Re: [iText-questions] What action is requred in terms of License On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Paulo Soares mailto:psoa...@glintt.com>> wrote: If you're using it in an in

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On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Paulo Soares wrote: > If you're using it in an intranet you don't have to do anything. If > you're exposing the service to the exterior either you provide the source > code of your application or you buy a commercial license. > >... > What does "intranet" m

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Sure. My manager sent the email already. Regards, Tao From: Paulo Soares [mailto:psoa...@glintt.com] Sent: April 21, 2010 3:08 PM To: Post all your questions about iText here Subject: Re: [iText-questions] What action is requred in terms of License No me

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No me, I don't own the company, contact sa...@itextsoftware.com. Paulo - Original Message - From: Lu, Tao (MOH) To: Post all your questions about iText here Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [iText-questions] What action is requred in terms of Li

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action is requred in terms of License If you're using it in an intranet you don't have to do anything. If you're exposing the service to the exterior either you provide the source code of your application or you buy a commercial license. Paulo

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> > Best Regards, > Tao > > > From: Paulo Soares [mailto:psoa...@glintt.com] > Sent: April 21, 2010 11:17 AM > To: Post all your questions about iText here > Subject: Re: [iText-questions] What action is requred in terms of License > &g

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questions about iText here Subject: Re: [iText-questions] What action is requred in terms of License If you're using it in an intranet you don't have to do anything. If you're exposing the service to the exterior either you provide the source code of your application or you b

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If you're using it in an intranet you don't have to do anything. If you're exposing the service to the exterior either you provide the source code of your application or you buy a commercial license. Paulo From: Lu, Tao (MOH) [tao...@ontario.ca] Sent: Wednesday,