Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-27 Thread DM Smith
Erik Hatcher wrote: On Feb 25, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Daniel Naber wrote: On Freitag 24 Februar 2006 00:50, Doug Cutting wrote: Are these all modules that don't need external libs? So far as I know! I found another module that requires external libraries: regex. These are even defined in th

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-26 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Feb 26, 2006, at 7:18 AM, Daniel Naber wrote: On Sonntag 26 Februar 2006 02:42, Erik Hatcher wrote: I personally don't think we should be distributing any external dependencies. Whoever builds the releases needs to have the dependencies locally, but 3rd party JARs, even Apache ones, should

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-26 Thread Daniel Naber
On Sonntag 26 Februar 2006 02:42, Erik Hatcher wrote: > I personally don't think we should be distributing any external   > dependencies.  Whoever builds the releases needs to have the   > dependencies locally, but 3rd party JARs, even Apache ones, should   > not go along for the .tar/zip ride IMO

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-25 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Feb 25, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Daniel Naber wrote: On Freitag 24 Februar 2006 00:50, Doug Cutting wrote: Are these all modules that don't need external libs? So far as I know! I found another module that requires external libraries: regex. These are even defined in the additional.dependenc

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available: surround package.html files

2006-02-25 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Thanks Paul, it's in. Otis - Original Message From: Paul Elschot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 7:09:25 AM Subject: Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available: surround package.html files On Saturday 25 February 2006 01:23, Chri

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-25 Thread Daniel Naber
On Freitag 24 Februar 2006 00:50, Doug Cutting wrote: > > Are these all modules that don't need external libs? > > So far as I know! I found another module that requires external libraries: regex. These are even defined in the additional.dependencies property in the build.xml, but it seems it's

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available: surround package.html files

2006-02-25 Thread Paul Elschot
On Saturday 25 February 2006 01:23, Chris Hostetter wrote: > ... > > ...Which means this weekend would be a good time for contrib module owners > to commit a quick one sentence "package.html" for each package in their > module. Now that the contrib classes are built/bundled/distributed along > w

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-24 Thread Chris Hostetter
: FYI, I think all of the commits to trunk since the RC1 release are safe : to merge to the 1.9 branch. They're mostly documentation improvements. : So my plan is currently, on Monday, to merge these changes to the 1.9 : branch, then make a 1.9-final release. I'll again announce it to the ...

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-24 Thread Daniel Naber
On Freitag 24 Februar 2006 00:50, Doug Cutting wrote: > > Are these all modules that don't need external libs? > > So far as I know!  They built without me downloading anything extra. Lucli requires jline.jar which is also in SVN and can be distributed thanks to its very liberal license (jline.L

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-24 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Feb 23, 2006, at 6:33 PM, Daniel Naber wrote: BTW, lucli (the command line lucene searcher) builds fine, but the manifest in the jar doesn't specify the Main-Class so you cannot start it with java's -jar option. Could someone have a look at this (Erik?)? I don't understand how that ant task

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-23 Thread Doug Cutting
Daniel Naber wrote: Are these all modules that don't need external libs? So far as I know! They built without me downloading anything extra. FYI, I think all of the commits to trunk since the RC1 release are safe to merge to the 1.9 branch. They're mostly documentation improvements. So my

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-23 Thread Daniel Naber
On Freitag 24 Februar 2006 00:33, Daniel Naber wrote: > Shouldn't we include at least some package from contrib, like analyzers > and highlighter? Sorry, I totally missed the "contrib" sub directory that contains everything I'm asking for... Are these all modules that don't need external libs?

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-23 Thread Daniel Naber
On Dienstag 21 Februar 2006 18:50, Doug Cutting wrote: > I will send this announcement to user list tomorrow if no major issues > are identified.  If things still look good next week, I will promote > this release to 1.9-final. Shouldn't we include at least some package from contrib, like analyze

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-22 Thread Doug Cutting
Arguing about this won't change the code. A well-constructed patch might (but there are no guarantees). To me, this sounds like an uphill battle. If we want to add a feature to wildcard 0-N characters at the end of a word, then I don't think we'd use '?' plus a flag. Rather I think it would

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-22 Thread Doug Cutting
Grant Ingersoll wrote: I am wondering what the motivation is for being forward compatible to 2.0. Is the only change from 1.9 to 2.0 going to be the removal of deprecated items? Pretty much, yes. Are we going to be preventing ourselves from making broader structural changes? My understand

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-22 Thread Grant Ingersoll
Doug Cutting wrote: 1.9 will be the last 1.x release. It is both back-compatible with 1.4.3 and forward-compatible with the upcoming 2.0 release. Many methods and classes in 1.4.3 have been deprecated in 1.9 and will be removed in 2.0. Applications must compile against 1.9 without deprecati

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-21 Thread Terry Steichen
1) Having a simple way to match singular and plural forms of a term with a single wildcard expression is quite useful. 2) The trailing '?' behavior has been present since that wildcard was first introduced. Why not provide a flag to allow the original behavior to optionally be preserved? 3) The

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-21 Thread Chris Hostetter
: In either case, what I'm arguing is that the current behavior makes more : sense in the real world of query expressions (that is, makes the most : common query expressions simpler), so why not continue it? I disagree with that statment. People familiar with shell globing are going to be confus

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-21 Thread Terry Steichen
Hoss, Whether the previous behavior (which I believe has been present in Lucene from the outset) was a "bug" or a "feature" is kind of academic. My point is that this behavior has value that's not countered by any argument that any significant value is added by eliminating it. As to your ri

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-21 Thread Terry Steichen
Marvin, While a stemming analyzer can work well for general purpose queries, if you're seeking a decent level of precision/recall, stemming often severely limits you. Moreover, unless the user is very familiar with the behavior of the stemmer used, some of the returned results can be quite s

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-21 Thread Chris Hostetter
: of query). Under the previous versions of QueryParser, I could simply : specify 'riot???' and capture all of those variants. I don't have a strong opinion on this issue, but it seems clear to me that this was a bug in 1.4.3 not a change in the orriginally intended behavior. queryparsersyntax.h

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-21 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Terry, Is there a reason you wouldn't use a stemming analyzer of some kind, which would match cat and cats but not cater, catches, etc? http://snowball.tartarus.org/demo.php Marvin Humphrey Rectangular Research http://www.rectangular.com/ On Feb 21, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Terry Steichen wrote:

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-21 Thread Yonik Seeley
Terry, I think most of the examples you provide are normally handled via stemming. Using wildcarding for stemming will normally be less accurate. The current behavior is also consistent with the way file globbing works. -Yonik On 2/21/06, Terry Steichen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yonik, > >

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-21 Thread Terry Steichen
Yonik, No, I don't think that the riot* option would work for many queries. Let's take a simple case where you want a singular or plural form, like either cat or cats (which would be very common). With 1.4.x, you can use cat? to retrieve such matches. With the new change, you need to use (

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-21 Thread Yonik Seeley
On 2/21/06, Terry Steichen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example, let's say that I'm interested in docs with terms 'riot', > 'riots', 'rioting' and 'rioters' (which, I think, is a reasonable kind > of query). Under the previous versions of QueryParser, I could simply > specify 'riot???' and cap

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-21 Thread Terry Steichen
In reviewing the latest changes incorporated into release 1.9 RC1, I noticed a change responding to JIRA item LUCENE-306. According to the writeup, the new change forces the wildcard pattern 'cat??' to exactly match the length of the term (in this case, a five-letter term starting with 'cat').

Re: Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-21 Thread Doug Cutting
Doug Cutting wrote: Release 1.9 RC1 of Lucene is now available from: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/lucene/java/ I will send this announcement to user list tomorrow if no major issues are identified. If things still look good next week, I will promote this release to 1.9-final. Once

Lucene 1.9 RC1 release available

2006-02-21 Thread Doug Cutting
Release 1.9 RC1 of Lucene is now available from: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/lucene/java/ This release candidate has many improvements since release 1.4.3, including new features, performance improvements, bug fixes, etc. For details, see: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkou