Re: CaffineMark Test

1999-02-07 Thread Cliff Kotnik
A number of folks pointed out in reply to my earlier note that the Linux JDK does not provide a default JIT. I ran tests with the TYA JIT on Linux and with the JIT on Win98 disabled. While the results on Win98 did slow down to almost exactly the same speed as Linux, the converse was not true. E

Re: Green/Native threads

1999-02-07 Thread Nathan Meyers
David Wall wrote: > > >This makes me wonder. > >AFAIK, according to their definition, threads are supposed to be > "lightweight" > >processes. I think a lot of people are getting hung up on the notion of lightweight vs heavyweight processes. Here's the quick definition of the differences, follow

Re: Web site dead?!?/Java 2

1999-02-07 Thread Nathan Meyers
Joachim Breuer wrote: > > Hello! > > As can be seen on http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/info.html, your > web site has last been touched on 98/12/17 with the remark that > 1.2/Java2 is sorta running and to be expected in at most one month. > > I do understand that there might be some time-co

Re: jdk1.2 class lib on jdk1.1 jvm?

1999-02-07 Thread Nathan Meyers
Logi Ragnarsson wrote: > > Hi! > > I'm one of those eagerly awaiting the arrival of jdk1.2 for linux, but > in the short term all I really need is the collections API. (I'm going > to write abstract algebra/group theory classes and subclassing Set > seems like a good idea.) Does anyone know if i

Re: jdk1.2 class lib on jdk1.1 jvm?

1999-02-07 Thread Moses DeJong
You can use the collections API in JDK1.1. Just download the binary .jar files that sun has up on the java beans website. If you can not find it I can email you the copy I have. Mo DeJong dejong at cs.umn.edu On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Logi Ragnarsson wrote: > Hi! > > I'm one of those eagerly awaitin

Web site dead?!?/Java 2

1999-02-07 Thread Joachim Breuer
Hello! As can be seen on http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/info.html, your web site has last been touched on 98/12/17 with the remark that 1.2/Java2 is sorta running and to be expected in at most one month. I do understand that there might be some time-consuming and very valid reasons for the

jdk1.2 class lib on jdk1.1 jvm?

1999-02-07 Thread Logi Ragnarsson
Hi! I'm one of those eagerly awaiting the arrival of jdk1.2 for linux, but in the short term all I really need is the collections API. (I'm going to write abstract algebra/group theory classes and subclassing Set seems like a good idea.) Does anyone know if it would be possible to simply use the

Re: Green/Native threads

1999-02-07 Thread David Craig
I don't know much about the specifics of linuxthreads, but pthreads are usually implemented with a group of kernel threads (supplied by clone() syscall in this case, and they're definitely "light-weight" processes). Perhaps, they've been referred to as "heavy-weight" just as a term relative to gre

Re: Green/Native threads

1999-02-07 Thread Juergen Kreileder
> Dimitris Vyzovitis writes: Dimitris> This makes me wonder. AFAIK, according to their Dimitris> definition, threads are supposed to be "lightweight" Dimitris> processes. How are linuxthreads actually implemented? Dimitris> ie, do we get the real lightweight process that we

Re: Green/Native threads

1999-02-07 Thread David Wall
>This makes me wonder. >AFAIK, according to their definition, threads are supposed to be "lightweight" >processes. >How are linuxthreads actually implemented? ie, do we get the real lightweight >process that we are supposed to get by the pthreads definitions? >The descriptions seen in the discussi

Re: CaffineMark Test

1999-02-07 Thread Moses DeJong
The JDK1.1.7 port from blackdown does not come with a JIT compiler. This will make it much slower than the Windows version which does have a JIT compiler. You should also keep in mind that benchmarks are almost always wrong. You need to see how the speed differs with an application, not a benchmar

Re: CaffineMark Test

1999-02-07 Thread Juergen Kreileder
> Cliff Kotnik writes: Cliff> I decided to test the performance of my home machine with Cliff> the CaffineMark benchmark. The results for SUN's Win32 Cliff> JDK vs. the Linux JDK are so disappointing, I wonder if I've Cliff> made some goof in running the tests. Any help woul

Re: Green/Native threads

1999-02-07 Thread Dimitris Vyzovitis
Gerald Gutierrez wrote: > > > Non-Java processes don't have the problem because "processes" are > heavyweight native threads, essentially. Non-Java threads MAY have the > problem if they are not native threads. > > Assuming you are talking about Linux when you talk about G++, yes Linux > implemen

CaffineMark Test

1999-02-07 Thread Cliff Kotnik
I decided to test the performance of my home machine with the CaffineMark benchmark. The results for SUN's Win32 JDK vs. the Linux JDK are so disappointing, I wonder if I've made some goof in running the tests. Any help would be appreciated. Hardware: Del XPS R400 PII 400 MHz 128M Software:

Re: SUN "supports" Java on Linux

1999-02-07 Thread Nigel Gamble
On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Wim Ceulemans wrote: > Can the sunwjit be used in combination with the latest JDK1.1.x on Linux? No, the JIT interface in Java 2 is very different from that in JDK1.1. Nigel Gamble[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mountain View, CA, USA.

Re: SUN "supports" Java on Linux?

1999-02-07 Thread Wim Ceulemans
Can the sunwjit be used in combination with the latest JDK1.1.x on Linux? >> Albrecht Kleine writes: > >>> 1.2 for i386 includes sunwjit. The port isn't finished yet and so it >>> doesn't make much sense to show benchmark results now. > > >Albrecht> Does that mean tha the sunwjit