Re: What are the disadvantages of using jikes instead of javac?

2000-12-19 Thread Mo DeJong
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Man Chi Ly wrote: > one issue I'm having with jikes is that (I quote from the FAQ): Well, the java-linux list is not really the right place to talk about issues you have with jikes. I think it is ok to post something like "Jikes is neat, you should try it" since it is a java

Netscape & Sun JDK1.3 JRE Plugin Problem

2000-12-19 Thread G.P.Rastogi
I am not able to run Java Console from Netscape 4.7 on Linux Mandrake 7.2, after installing Sun JDK 1.3. Sun gives the following instructions to install JRE plugin, included in JDK 1.3, for Netscape : --

Re: What are the disadvantages of using jikes instead of javac?

2000-12-19 Thread Man Chi Ly
one issue I'm having with jikes is that (I quote from the FAQ): Jikes allows the use of JAR files, which have the standard "zip" format, provided that any contained class files are stored either using no compression or the default "DeflatedN" compression (also known as "method 8" in zip-speak).

Re: Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT

2000-12-19 Thread Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT
-Original Message- From: Joi Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 5:24 AM Subject: Re: Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT >On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> I second that request..

Re: What are the disadvantages of using jikes instead of javac?

2000-12-19 Thread David Brownell
> I guess I didn't explain the problem very well (and glancing at the > gcj web site didn't show me the answer). For one thing, I'm assuming > that gcj will do inlining. I think right now it doesn't do much of that. Though I've known folk who look at providing member access without a function c

Re: Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT

2000-12-19 Thread Joi Ellis
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I second that request... > > Andreas Micklei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12/19/2000 07:35:10 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cc: > Subject: Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT > > > To the List Administrators: > > I guess that only people that are subscribed to

Re: What are the disadvantages of using jikes instead of javac?

2000-12-19 Thread David Brownell
> = From: Cliff Draper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > = Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 10:35 AM > > = From: David Brownell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > = Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:52:46 -0800 > > My own experience with GCJ is positive. For many things it's > > faster than Hotspot, and the startup time

Re: Running a Java Swing program at boot

2000-12-19 Thread Doug Collinge
Shivakant is developing a STRIKING RESEMBLANCE to Zippy the Pinhead! Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT wrote: > HI JESUS !Have'nt seen you around for quite sometime.Are you talking about > giving SWING THE BOOT.Let me tell you this i will kill for SWING. > > YOURS SINCERELY > SHIVAKANTH > -

Re: Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT

2000-12-19 Thread Tom . Williams
I second that request... Peacee Tom Andreas Micklei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12/19/2000 07:35:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT To the List Administrators: I guess that only people that are subscribed to this list can post here (which is good spam preventi

Re: What are the disadvantages of using jikes instead of javac?

2000-12-19 Thread Joi Ellis
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Lachlan O'Dea wrote: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 06:07:39PM -0600, Joi Ellis wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Jacob Nikom wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I started to use jikes and like it very much. So I started to wonder, > > > what are the disadvantages to use jikes instea

Re: Running a Java Swing program at boot

2000-12-19 Thread Uli Luckas
Nathan Meyers wrote: > "Jesus M. Salvo Jr." wrote: > > >> I believe the above is NOT possible, because of the requirement for X, >> but just to be sure... >> >> I don't have a problem running a Java Swing-less and AWT-less program at >> boot time, ... but is there a way to have a Java Swing

Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT

2000-12-19 Thread Andreas Micklei
To the List Administrators: I guess that only people that are subscribed to this list can post here (which is good spam prevention practise anyway). If so can we please have Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT have removed from the list? Thanks in advance. Btw.: Adding an X-Abuse header or something like that would

Re: What are the disadvantages of using jikes instead of javac?

2000-12-19 Thread Nathan Meyers
Juergen Kreileder wrote: > > "Nathan" == Nathan Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Nathan> I used to believe that until I tried, some months back, a > Nathan> side-by-side comparison of some benchmark code compiled by > Nathan> the old Blackdown JDK1.2.2 javac and a Sun-suppli

Re: Running a Java Swing program at boot

2000-12-19 Thread Nathan Meyers
"Jesus M. Salvo Jr." wrote: > I believe the above is NOT possible, because of the requirement for X, > but just to be sure... > > I don't have a problem running a Java Swing-less and AWT-less program at > boot time, ... but is there a way to have a Java Swing program, > therefore requiring X, to

Re: JDK1.3 only classic works

2000-12-19 Thread Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT
-Original Message- From: Jesus M. Salvo Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 6:47 PM Subject: Re: JDK1.3 only classic works >Given that Sun and Blackdown's code branched off at some point in the >past, how do we know if a Sun

Re: What are the disadvantages of using jikes instead of javac?

2000-12-19 Thread Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT
-Original Message- From: Levente Farkas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mo DeJong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Java-Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 4:42 PM Subject: Re: What are the disadvantages of u

Re: fonts for java programs

2000-12-19 Thread Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT
-Original Message- From: Robert B. Easter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 1:09 PM Subject: fonts for java programs >I'm getting this everytime I start just about any java program: > >reaster@comptechnews:/usr/local/jdk/bin$

Re: sdk 1.3.0 fcs netscape plugin problem

2000-12-19 Thread Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT
-Original Message- From: Juergen Kreileder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Robert B. Easter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:55 AM Subject: Re: sdk 1.3.0 fcs netscape plugin problem >> "Robert" == Robert B Easter <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: JDK1.3 only classic works

2000-12-19 Thread Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT
-Original Message- From: Joseph Shraibman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Graham Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 7:25 AM Subject: Re: JDK1.3 only classic works >It apperears Sun has finally fixed the HotSpot crash problem. S

Re: Running a Java Swing program at boot

2000-12-19 Thread Mr.Y.SHIVAKANT
-Original Message- From: Jesus M. Salvo Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Java-Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 7:16 PM Subject: Running a Java Swing program at boot > >I believe the above is NOT possible, because of the requirement for X, >but just to be sure... > >

Re: What are the disadvantages of using jikes instead of javac?

2000-12-19 Thread Uncle George
I think this is just passing the buck. Javac should do its 'optimizations' ( whatever they may be ) irrespective of the fact that a JIT might be there ( or any other accellerator/translator ). Nor is there any guarantee that a JIT will optimize anything in its translations. Mo DeJong wrote:

Re: What are the disadvantages of using jikes instead of javac?

2000-12-19 Thread Juergen Kreileder
> "Nathan" == Nathan Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nathan> Mo DeJong wrote: >> On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Joseph Shraibman wrote: >> >> > In at least a few instances that I know of, jikes produces >> > slower code. But I don't think javac is a really great >> > optimi

Re: Running a Java Swing program at boot

2000-12-19 Thread Jesus M. Salvo Jr.
And whatever the answer is, is it generally true for all Unix-like operating systems? "Jesus M. Salvo Jr." wrote: > > I believe the above is NOT possible, because of the requirement for X, > but just to be sure... > > I don't have a problem running a Java Swing-less and AWT-less program at > b

Running a Java Swing program at boot

2000-12-19 Thread Jesus M. Salvo Jr.
I believe the above is NOT possible, because of the requirement for X, but just to be sure... I don't have a problem running a Java Swing-less and AWT-less program at boot time, ... but is there a way to have a Java Swing program, therefore requiring X, to startup at boot time? ... and when the

Re: JDK1.3 only classic works

2000-12-19 Thread Jesus M. Salvo Jr.
Given that Sun and Blackdown's code branched off at some point in the past, how do we know if a Sun-Linux JVM bug is also a Blackdown bug? ... or vice-versa? Joseph Shraibman wrote: > > It apperears Sun has finally fixed the HotSpot crash problem. See > http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/

Re: What are the disadvantages of using jikes instead of javac?

2000-12-19 Thread Levente Farkas
Mo DeJong wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Joseph Shraibman wrote: > > > In at least a few instances that I know of, jikes produces slower code. > > But I don't think javac is a really great optimizing compiler either. > > That does not matter. Java code should be optimized by > the JIT not the

Re: What are the disadvantages of using jikes instead of javac?

2000-12-19 Thread Ola Samuelson
Have you done any tests on SMP using SE v1.3.0-FCS based on Sun's 1.3.0_01 code? //OLAS Nathan Meyers wrote: > > I used to believe that until I tried, some months back, a side-by-side > comparison of some benchmark code compiled by the old Blackdown JDK1.2.2 > javac and a Sun-supplied javac on