Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-15 Thread Tom Jenkins
At 03:08 PM 10/15/98 +0200, Willi Richert wrote: >In my opinion you are right. Finally someone who believes in Linux as >the most powerful platform for developing and executin Java apps! >However, in my opinion Linux lacks of a real *good* IDE (such as >JBuilder from Inprise). The KDE-mailing list

Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-15 Thread Willi Richert
> This bring up a basic problem with Linux. It's intel centric. Although > linux runs on a multitude of CPU's it is still centered around > the intel cpu. It's offered e quit a bit of freedom in choosing a free > OS. but try finding binaries for the alternative platforms. > The percentages of Li

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-12 Thread Dustin Lang
Hi, Please excuse my few snarky remarks... :) > This bring up a basic problem with Linux. It's intel centric. Although > linux runs on a multitude of CPU's it is still centered around > the intel cpu. It's offered e quit a bit of freedom in choosing a free > OS. but try finding binaries for t

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread Dan Kegel
> Michael Emmel wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks I read these once befor and went searching for them but could not find the > key words. ... > invokelater cl

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread Diego Pons
Michael Emmel wrote: > > Hello I've been working for a while on and all java Windowing system. > > My current version is written on top of the Swing toolkit. Which is > practically all Java. > > Well it turns out even Swing is flawed. [ deleted ] > Java > graphics today are fatally flawed ,

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread Dan Kegel
Michael Emmel wrote: > > It seems to me that the Swing architects came to > > a conclusion about how to write thread-safe programs: ... > > they expect you to segment your program so that only > > one thread manages the user interface, and communicates > > with the rest of your program through a c

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread Michael Emmel
Dan Kegel wrote: > Michael Emmel wrote: > > Hello I've been working for a while on and all java Windowing system. > > My current version is written on top of the Swing toolkit. Which is > > practically all Java. > > Well it turns out even Swing is flawed. > > > > The problem with Swing is the a

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread peter
You might be interested in what I tell about the Kaffe AWT (and some of its future directions) on the Atlanta Linux Showcase. I don't want to engage into a Swing discussion, mainly because I know (since 1996) from biss-awt what is is about to create a portable lightweight framework, and I therefo

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread Dan Kegel
Dan Kegel wrote: > It seems to me that the Swing architects came to > a conclusion about how to write thread-safe programs: > thread safety is difficult. The best way to achieve > it is to carefully segment programs such that the > interfaces between threads are particularly well understood. A p

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread Dan Kegel
Michael Emmel wrote: > Hello I've been working for a while on and all java Windowing system. > My current version is written on top of the Swing toolkit. Which is > practically all Java. > Well it turns out even Swing is flawed. > > The problem with Swing is the attempt to reuse Graphics conte

Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread Michael Emmel
Hello I've been working for a while on and all java Windowing system. My current version is written on top of the Swing toolkit. Which is practically all Java. Well it turns out even Swing is flawed. The problem with Swing is the attempt to reuse Graphics context and not being thread safe. P