Re: Linux Takes Lead in Server-Side Java Performance /IW November 23, 1998

1998-12-01 Thread Christopher Hinds
I agree with you about MS's lack of JNI support , however there is on very large "Pure java" type of application that will not run under MS's JVM and they are RMI applets and application. The classes.zip that is shipped with IE4.x , NT 4.0 and 95/98 do not contain the java.rmi.* core package whic

Re: Linux Takes Lead in Server-Side Java Performance /IW November 23, 1998

1998-12-01 Thread dan
Jauvane Cavalcante de Oliveira wrote: > > Why did Microsoft do this? Because they were trying to optimize the performance >of WFC > > calls (their Java interface to MFC). MFC is, of course, native code. If WFC >required > > memory copies for every access to Java memory, the performance of

Re: Linux Takes Lead in Server-Side Java Performance /IW November 23, 1998

1998-12-01 Thread Jauvane Cavalcante de Oliveira
> Why did Microsoft do this? Because they were trying to optimize the performance of >WFC > calls (their Java interface to MFC). MFC is, of course, native code. If WFC >required > memory copies for every access to Java memory, the performance of WFC would suck. So > Microsoft chose not to im

Re: Linux Takes Lead in Server-Side Java Performance /IW November 23, 1998

1998-12-01 Thread dan
I'm not one to normally defend Microsoft, but their JVM is a "true" JVM. The area that they depart from the Java standard is in their choice to leave out support for JNI (Java Native Interface). The reason they chose to do this is that JNI specifies that Java objects can be moved around in memor

Re: Linux Takes Lead in Server-Side Java Performance /IW November 23, 1998

1998-11-25 Thread Matola, Tod
I agree it is good to see (yeah Linux), but it is also a strange comparison. But my point was, is Micro$oft's sdk really a TRUE JVM? Didn't they buy performace at the cost of portablity? Don't they play funny games with the low level calls that get close to the OS? I have no first hand knowledge

Re: Linux Takes Lead in Server-Side Java Performance /IW November 23, 1998

1998-11-25 Thread Scot P. Floess
I agree. Tower J is somewhat limited in terms of full java capabilities, ie compiles the complete application before hand. Now if the linux JVM were to perform as well as some *other* vendor's JVM, we would all have great reason to celebrate! Please do not misunderstand, I love linux and java.

Re: Linux Takes Lead in Server-Side Java Performance /IW November 23, 1998

1998-11-25 Thread Bryce McKinlay
Although this is good to see, it is hardly fair to compare a native code compiler (a commercial one, at that) against a true JVM (which in Microsoft's case was only slightly slower) regards [ bryce ] Mario Camou wrote: > Hi all, > > Check this out (I'm not including the full text in the int

Linux Takes Lead in Server-Side Java Performance /IW November 23, 1998

1998-11-25 Thread Mario Camou
Hi all, Check this out (I'm not including the full text in the interest of conserving bandwidth): http://www.internetworld.com/print/current/webdev/19981123-java.html Way to go!