Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-15 Thread Tom Jenkins
At 03:08 PM 10/15/98 +0200, Willi Richert wrote: >In my opinion you are right. Finally someone who believes in Linux as >the most powerful platform for developing and executin Java apps! >However, in my opinion Linux lacks of a real *good* IDE (such as >JBuilder from Inprise). The KDE-mailing list

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-12 Thread Dustin Lang
Hi, Please excuse my few snarky remarks... :) > This bring up a basic problem with Linux. It's intel centric. Although > linux runs on a multitude of CPU's it is still centered around > the intel cpu. It's offered e quit a bit of freedom in choosing a free > OS. but try finding binaries for t

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread Dan Kegel
> Michael Emmel wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks I read these once befor and went searching for them but could not find the > key words. ... > invokelater cl

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread Diego Pons
Michael Emmel wrote: > > Hello I've been working for a while on and all java Windowing system. > > My current version is written on top of the Swing toolkit. Which is > practically all Java. > > Well it turns out even Swing is flawed. [ deleted ] > Java > graphics today are fatally flawed ,

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread Dan Kegel
Michael Emmel wrote: > > It seems to me that the Swing architects came to > > a conclusion about how to write thread-safe programs: ... > > they expect you to segment your program so that only > > one thread manages the user interface, and communicates > > with the rest of your program through a c

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread Michael Emmel
Dan Kegel wrote: > Michael Emmel wrote: > > Hello I've been working for a while on and all java Windowing system. > > My current version is written on top of the Swing toolkit. Which is > > practically all Java. > > Well it turns out even Swing is flawed. > > > > The problem with Swing is the a

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread peter
You might be interested in what I tell about the Kaffe AWT (and some of its future directions) on the Atlanta Linux Showcase. I don't want to engage into a Swing discussion, mainly because I know (since 1996) from biss-awt what is is about to create a portable lightweight framework, and I therefo

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread Dan Kegel
Dan Kegel wrote: > It seems to me that the Swing architects came to > a conclusion about how to write thread-safe programs: > thread safety is difficult. The best way to achieve > it is to carefully segment programs such that the > interfaces between threads are particularly well understood. A p

Re: Java Awt/Swing is fatally flawed

1998-10-11 Thread Dan Kegel
Michael Emmel wrote: > Hello I've been working for a while on and all java Windowing system. > My current version is written on top of the Swing toolkit. Which is > practically all Java. > Well it turns out even Swing is flawed. > > The problem with Swing is the attempt to reuse Graphics conte