Oracle has developed a virtualized JVM for their various web products.
It puts all the shared, read-only stuff in one layer and all the private
read-write stuff in another layer. It allows each client session to
have effectively their own private JVM with something like 20KB overhead
per ses
> The problem is that the connection to the X display happens when the AWT
> native library is first loaded. It's a single connection that is used
> through the life of the JVM. As currently structured, the AWT won't let
> you associate different objects with different X connections. It would
> ta
Sounds what we need is the old UNIX sticky bit put back into Linux. The
sticky bit was a file attribute that told the Kernel that the
application should stay in cached for some period of time after it was
initially loaded. Way back when, UNIX did this and things that got hit a
lot like editors (vi
> What is really needed is a pre-started jvm. When you start up a java
> process, the jvm will fork, and the child will su to you and proceed as
> normal. I don't know exactly what the jvm is doing when it is taking
> all that time starting up so I don't know how useful this would be.
I like t
allen petersen wrote:
>
> you know, it would probably make a whole lot more sense to integrate the jvm
> with something like gnome or kde rather than with the operating system itself.
> that way you skip the various xdisplay problems (since you'll necessarily have
> an x environment associated wi
you know, it would probably make a whole lot more sense to integrate the jvm
with something like gnome or kde rather than with the operating system itself.
that way you skip the various xdisplay problems (since you'll necessarily have
an x environment associated with your session) and you don'
Yavor Kolarov wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone who replied!
>
> It is clear that JVM can't be part of the kernel. Because of three main
> reasons:
> 1. Java is not GPL'ed
> 2. the more code in the kernel the worse. Java is too big and not so stable.
>
You don't want different people sharing the j
Yavor Kolarov wrote:
>
> There are some additional problems.
>
> If we have a wrapper starting all programs it has to be able to:
> - open news windows and frames on a specific X terminal. ( User A running
> Java application on localhost:0.0 and user B on localhost:1.0)
> This raises the questio
> "Brett" == Brett W McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Brett> On 19 Jan 2001, Juergen Kreileder wrote:
>> Yes, a "simplified" implementation isn't too hard but a complete
>> implementation isn't trivial.
>> BTW, SCO has done this for Solaris and UnixWare:
>> http://www.sco
Hi!
On Fre, 19 Jan 2001 Yavor Kolarov wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who replied!
>
> It is clear that JVM can't be part of the kernel. Because of three main
> reasons:
> 1. Java is not GPL'ed
> 2. the more code in the kernel the worse. Java is too big and not so stable.
Sorry, the JOS mailing is
Thanks to everyone who replied!
It is clear that JVM can't be part of the kernel. Because of three main
reasons:
1. Java is not GPL'ed
2. the more code in the kernel the worse. Java is too big and not so stable.
Here is one possible design:
1. At boot time a wrapper is started in the user spac
Hi!
On Fre, 19 Jan 2001 Bruno Randolf wrote:
> i understand the reluctance of the linux community to use java because
> of licencing problems, but on the other hand i think it would be really
> interresting to integrate java and linux.
Don't forget that the GNU utils are a huge part of Li
At 21:58 01 Jan 2001 +0200, Yavor Kolarov wrote:
> Recently an interesting question crossed my mind - is there a project for
> "emedding" JRE as part of Linux system. By embedding I mean starting it at
> system boot or the first time it's needed and keep it running, so that when
> the user sta
hello!
i also thought of a similar thing - would'nt it be cool to have java
wrappers around the linux kernel and the system calls - so that you can
access them in java? also a java shell would be nice (java instead of
shell-scripts!).
i understand the reluctance of the linux community to use jav
On 19 Jan 2001, Juergen Kreileder wrote:
> Yes, a "simplified" implementation isn't too hard but a complete
> implementation isn't trivial.
> BTW, SCO has done this for Solaris and UnixWare:
> http://www.sco.com/10xmore/
But I'm sure they have done it under license and NDA. It's a different
sto
> "Nathan" == Nathan Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Nathan> "Brett W. McCoy" wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Yavor Kolarov wrote:
>>
>> > Recently an interesting question crossed my mind - is there a
>> > project for "emedding" JRE as part of Linux system. By
Hi!
On Don, 18 Jan 2001 Brett W. McCoy wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Yavor Kolarov wrote:
>
> > Recently an interesting question crossed my mind - is there a project for
> > "emedding" JRE as part of Linux system. By embedding I mean starting it at
> > system boot or the first time it's needed a
"Brett W. McCoy" wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Yavor Kolarov wrote:
>
> > Recently an interesting question crossed my mind - is there a project for
> > "emedding" JRE as part of Linux system. By embedding I mean starting it at
> > system boot or the first time it's needed and keep it running,
Until Sun agress to release java under the gpl, it ain't gonna happen.
There isn't even a 1.2 compatible free jvm.
Yavor Kolarov wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> Recently an interesting question crossed my mind - is there a project for
> "emedding" JRE as part of Linux system. By embedding I mean starting
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Yavor Kolarov wrote:
> Recently an interesting question crossed my mind - is there a project for
> "emedding" JRE as part of Linux system. By embedding I mean starting it at
> system boot or the first time it's needed and keep it running, so that when
> the user starts an Jav
http://gcc.gnu.org/ ... look at the Java support if you
want startup times that are as good as native code.
(And don't need Swing... GTK integration is in the
works though.)
GCC 3.0 includes a Java compiler, GCJ. It's in code
slush now, soon to branch; "hope to release by the
end of Q1 2001".
> "Urban" == Urban Widmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Urban> On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Andrew Majercik wrote:
>> And there-in lies the rub, because I am trying to find a viable
>> JRE for shipping a product. :)
Urban> Sorry, I need to read $subject more carefully.
>> Does any
On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Andrew Majercik wrote:
> And there-in lies the rub, because I am trying to find a viable JRE for
> shipping a product. :)
Sorry, I need to read $subject more carefully.
> Does anyone know who to contact?
The blackdown people are on this list, they probably already know.
Ahhh!
And there-in lies the rub, because I am trying to find a viable JRE for
shipping a product. :)
Does anyone know who to contact?
Thanks,
Andrew
>From: Oscar Carrillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: JRE 1.1.8 Native Threads support mi
OK.
It's been awhile and I went back to look at the blackdown
stuff more closely.
The jdk_118_v1 for blackdown DOES have a "native_threads" directory.
But the jre_118_v1 does NOT have a "native_threads" directory to
contain all the relevant binaries, etc.
Which is fine, as long as you don't wa
On Wed, 7 Jun 100, Oscar Carrillo wrote:
> I couldn't figure this out either. Can someone please enlighten us?
> I posted an inquiry before but got no reply.
>
> I had to eventually use the IBM JRE 1.1.8, which only supports native threads.
> I would probably make an RPM of the balckdown 1.1.8 i
I couldn't figure this out either. Can someone please enlighten us?
I posted an inquiry before but got no reply.
I had to eventually use the IBM JRE 1.1.8, which only supports native threads.
I would probably make an RPM of the balckdown 1.1.8 if I could figure out the
native threads support.
Os
Trieu Truong wrote:
>
> A newbie question (this seems too obvious even for the FAQs): I need to
> install the JRE (I'm going to use the one at blackdown.org) so that I
> can run Oracle 8i on my Linux box. Does this either preclude or hinder
> my ability to install and use Blackdown's JDK so tha
You can have several JDKs, JREs in your box like I do, just make sure
you know what you are using and when.
For more information on installing 8i on Linux, see my signature at the
bottom of this e-mail.
John Salvo
Trieu Truong wrote:
>
> A newbie question (this seems too obvious even for the FA
Dan Hobbs wrote:
> Trieu Truong said, about JRE -and- JDK
> > A newbie question (this seems too obvious even for the FAQs): I need to
> > install the JRE (I'm going to use the one at blackdown.org) so that I
> > can run Oracle 8i on my Linux box. Does this either preclude or hinder
> > my abili
Trieu Truong said, about JRE -and- JDK
> A newbie question (this seems too obvious even for the FAQs): I need to
> install the JRE (I'm going to use the one at blackdown.org) so that I
> can run Oracle 8i on my Linux box. Does this either preclude or hinder
> my ability to install and use Blackd
I've done a couple installs of Oracle 8i on RH6.0 and 6.1. There are some
interesting gotchas, if this isn't too far off topic.
Using a newer jre than Oracle's recommended 1.1.6v5 will often (not
always) work as far as installing the software itself, but for me the
install program would then bomb
At 13:05 12/9/99 +0700, you wrote:
>FYI, I've already installed JRE 1.1.6v5 in /usr/local/jre directory
um... try a *current* version. For a x86 box running RH6.1 I'd highly
recommend either blackdown's 118v1 or IBM's 118. -=Chris
cabbey at home dot net <*> http://members.home.net/cabbey
At 19:24 9/15/99 -0600, Carlos Alberto Román Zamitiz wrote:
>I think your linux box doesn't have memory enough.
>You should close others applications and try again.
>(ups! that's sound like Windows).
yeah, that would be windows ...
>I'm not sure. Please, tell me if I'm wrong.
I very much suspe
I think your linux box doesn't have memory enough.
You should close others applications and try again.
(ups! that's sound like Windows).
I'm not sure. Please, tell me if I'm wrong.
Greetings
Carlos
Pierre Legay wrote:
> Hello,
> when I execute a very simple program ( jre Hello.class) with the
steve patient wrote:
>
> Hi Folks
>
> Thanks to the many of you who recommended jre 1.1.7v3 - at least there
> appears to be a consensus.
>
> I've downloaded and installed this and now get a shiny new error message:
>
> can't find java/lang/Thread
>
> It doesn't appear to make any difference
That's really strange that you are having that much trouble. Here's what
I did to install java on RedHat 6:
install redhat (easier than Windows, btw)
uninstall kaffe (rpm -e kaffe)
install jdk1.2-pre2 for linux
And everything worked from there. Just to be sure, I even installed the
1.1.7 jdks,
At 10:00 AM 4/23/99 +0800, Jayvee Vibar wrote:
>Is there a java runtime environment for linux??
yes.
http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/mirrors.html lists many mirrors
you can choose from. All of them have it. Select any one, then select the
level you want (i.e. JDK-1.1.7), then select your arc
On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:17:03 PST, alexander lang wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am quite the rookie computer guy and am having trouble getting my
>application to work with jre1.1.7.
>
>I am getting this error message:
>"../usr/local/jre117_v1a/bin/i586/green_threads/jre: can't load library
>'libXp.so.6'
Thi
On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:17:03 PST, alexander lang wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am quite the rookie computer guy and am having trouble getting my
>application to work with jre1.1.7.
>
>I am getting this error message:
>"../usr/local/jre117_v1a/bin/i586/green_threads/jre: can't load library
>'libXp.so.6'
Thi
On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 02:25:26 PST, alexander lang wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Do you know where I can get a JRE 1.1.5 (for LINUX). Will higher
>versions of jre be compatible with code compiled with a lower jdk?
Yes, the JRE 1.1.7 should run all older JRE 1.1.x code and most all
JRE 1.0.2 code (they claim al
I'd hazard a guess that your CLASSPATH does not have '.' in it so the JVM
can't locate your Main.class file
At 03:15 PM 10/9/98 -0400, Ian Wehrman wrote:
>good day all,
>
>i'm sure this is a frequently asked question, but after looking around,
>i haven't yet found anything. i have the JDK 1.1.6v4
Ian Wehrman wrote:
> good day all,
>
> i'm sure this is a frequently asked question, but after looking around,
> i haven't yet found anything. i have the JDK 1.1.6v4a for i386-glibc
> linux, and compiling .java files with javac works fine, however whenever
> i try to execute a class file with t
When using the '-cp' flag in jdk1.1.x, the classpath specified at
runtime *replaces* the classpath specified in your environment. Make
sure that you also specify the location of 'classes.zip' and
'swingall.jar' (if you are using swing, that is) in addition to
'testq.jar'.
-dan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I tried to run an application packed in a JAR file:
> $ jre -cp testq.jar QueueTest
> but got the following message:
>
> Unable to initialize threads: cannot find class java/lang/Thread
> Could not create Java VM
>
> I use jdk-1.1.6, RPM version (jdk-sbb-1.1.6-2.1.2glibc).
> CLASSPATH, JAVA_H
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