Sorry to bother the list on this again but [EMAIL PROTECTED] apparently goes to /dev/null I have tried re-downloading, I have tried swmgr and inst. Inst seemed to get through but still had errors. After all the trys, no libs, no jars. Would anyone who has already installed Java3D successfully on SGIs please just email me the libs and .jars. I can do the rest. I mean geez, they could just put up a regular 'ole tar or zip! Thanks very much! -- TTFN __________________________________________________________ Shawn Kendall Full Sail Real World Education Course Instructor 3300 University BLVD Virtual Reality Winter Park FL 32792 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.fullsail.com __________________________________________________________ =========================================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".