[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-26 Thread Frederic Simon
"This thread is hilarious, who thought modularity could be such a controversial topic." :D Throwing modules at each other can hurt! On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Augusto wrote: > > This thread is hilarious, who thought modularity could be such a > controversial topic. > > Somebody mentioned t

[The Java Posse] Re: more jigsaw vs osgi vs javaposse

2009-06-26 Thread Dick Wall
Wow - what a report. I really couldn't let this one go by without some comment. Some choice pieces from the article: "defend Jigsaw scathing, cynical, and even insulting comments about OSGi folks" >From everything (and I mean everything) I have observed so far, the scathing comes primarily from

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-26 Thread Dick Wall
Cross posted from the forked thread about the OSGi vs. Jigsaw vs. The Java Posse as I believe it effects both discussions. http://modualrit.blogspot.com/2009/06/jigsaw-posse.html Wow - what a report. I really couldn't let this one go by without some comment. Some choice pieces from the article:

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-26 Thread Augusto
This thread is hilarious, who thought modularity could be such a controversial topic. Somebody mentioned this, it seems the driver here is JavaFX. Making the VM smaller, and starting faster and that is why this is needed by Java 7. With that in mind, it seems reasonable that the Sun folks want to

[The Java Posse] Re: more jigsaw vs osgi vs javaposse

2009-06-26 Thread Ryan Waterer
Whether the proposal supports groovy or not will indicate Dick's true feelings on the matter! On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Joshua Marinacci wrote: > > vs the javaposse? the java posse has their own modules proposal? > awesome! will it support groovy? > > On Jun 26, 2009, at 2:24 PM, phil.swe

[The Java Posse] Re: more jigsaw vs osgi vs javaposse

2009-06-26 Thread Joshua Marinacci
vs the javaposse? the java posse has their own modules proposal? awesome! will it support groovy? On Jun 26, 2009, at 2:24 PM, phil.swen...@gmail.com wrote: > > http://modualrit.blogspot.com/2009/06/jigsaw-posse.html > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

[The Java Posse] more jigsaw vs osgi vs javaposse

2009-06-26 Thread phil.swen...@gmail.com
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[The Java Posse] Re: Eclipse 3.5 (Galileo) Released

2009-06-26 Thread Marcelo Fukushima
Im actually runnning on solaris x86 so its GTK-based but my friends running windows and/or linux are also saying its running faster On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Viktor Klang wrote: > Really? I was under the impression that Eclipse was carbon-only and could > therefore only work with 32-bit

[The Java Posse] Re: Java Accessibility and Swing

2009-06-26 Thread Bill Robertson
That is the way it works for me on the mac too. I tried a native application and it worked the same way. It only read the window title at first. However, as I used the tab key to switch between components, it began reading them to me. Your little application did the same thing. So I could get

[The Java Posse] Re: Eclipse 3.5 (Galileo) Released

2009-06-26 Thread Viktor Klang
Really? I was under the impression that Eclipse was carbon-only and could therefore only work with 32-bit VMs, and since 6.0 was/is 64-bit only we had to wait for cocoa-based eclipse (SWT) -- Viktor On Jun 26, 2009 5:05 PM, "Marcelo Fukushima" wrote: im guessing all of the versions boot a lot

[The Java Posse] Re: Eclipse 3.5 (Galileo) Released

2009-06-26 Thread Marcelo Fukushima
im guessing all of the versions boot a lot faster than previously - at least my solaris x86 build (finally officially supported) boots a lot faster too On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:05 AM, Viktor Klang wrote: > Observation: the 3.5 cocoa version boots ridiculously fast. > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-26 Thread Steven Herod
> I disagree and I blame you, too! Why are people so unkind? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe fro

[The Java Posse] Re: Eclipse 3.5 (Galileo) Released

2009-06-26 Thread Viktor Klang
Observation: the 3.5 cocoa version boots ridiculously fast. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:33 PM, vogella wrote: > > I found it also annoying that the news and noteworthy is so hard to > find that is why I posted it here. > > On 25 Jun., 12:02, d...@happygiraffe.net (Dominic Mitchell) wrote: > > On

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-26 Thread Steve
On Jun 25, 2:39 am, phil swenson wrote: > > My position is: let the best technology win.  I don't see a lot of > discussion about which approach has the best technology. Well "best" depends on what criteria you are using to evaluate the choices. If best means "more features" or "is more mature"