On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:27 PM, zheismann wrote:
> It was also pointed out to me that, at least on Solaris, /bin/kill -
> ILL %p, will produce cause a core dump and allow the OnError handler
> to run while /bin/kill -9 %p doesn't.
>
Solaris also provides the gcore command for generating core d
In case you were wondering what was up, due to a few changes at
libsyn, tempoposse wasn't updating anymore. I fixed it a day or two
ago and it's updating as usual again. So, no, the posse didn't just
release 3 episodes back-to-back, that's tempoposse catching up :)
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A little towards the initial reason for all the Oracle - Google trouble.
Some experts were expecting
the lawsuit...
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/204319/google_bows_out_of_javaone_due_to_lawsuit.html
More specifically,
Dalvik was built to Get around licensing issues @JME..
A
If Google plans its own event, I wonder what they would call it...
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-08-2010/100825-javaone.html
Thanks,
jd
On 8/28/10, Fabrizio Giudici wrote:
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On 28 August 2010 08:26, Robert Casto wrote:
> Wish I had gone before it got butchered like this. Just never had the
> money or the company support to go.
yeah, also wishing I had gone when it was JavaOne and not the java stream of
OpenWorld ; will be interesting to see how it compares..
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On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Weiqi Gao wrote:
> Greetings Java Posse,
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> > It's not just you! http://www.javaposse.com looks down from here.
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Greetings Java Posse,
According to
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> It's not just you! http://www.javaposse.com looks down from here.
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Personally i believe people focus too much on the low level bits, like the
terseness of a language. I believe there are many more simple things that
can make our life as developers easier. We need libraries that have good
documentation, fewer dependencies, thorough testing, nice messages when
thing
I believe it is Single Abstract Method. Used as a description for many
interfaces.
Typical examples are Runnable, Callable, Predicate, and Function. We have
plenty of others at work, but they are all some form of Function. Typically
the only real difference is number of parameters. And... like
What is a SAM?
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> I think virtually everybody disagrees with you; SAMs aren't nasty.
> Whatever makes you think they are?
>
> On Aug 27, 9:03 pm, Kevin Wright wrote:
>> What really gets my goat though... It's the pro-java/anti-scala crow
Why didnt he add Microsoft to the list ? Im sure they have a few bills int
he bank they can pay out.
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Hopefully this onslaught of lawsuits has a positive outcome like the courts
throwing out all these stupid software patents that shouldn't have been
granted in the first place. How can you do anything in software without it
being on the backs of what went before?
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Re
And in the meantime, whilst we occupy ourselves arguing over minutia
of programming languages, people like Salesforce are out there taking
development projects off us all :)
On Aug 28, 9:30 am, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> Nice, another language. One of these days one of them is going to
> prov
Nice, another language. One of these days one of them is going to
prove that some nice syntax sugar is all you need to become the next
big thing. Or perhaps not.
Interesting that this is a project from Bracha and von der Ahe, and
also that its not a JVM based language (it's currently based on the
I know I'm being a naive git, but wouldn't it be grand if everyone
started suing everyone, the entire industry ground to a halt, everyone
turns into a paranoid freak overnight, and a few months down the line,
as everyone realizes the current status quo is quite possibly the
stupidest thing every de
I think virtually everybody disagrees with you; SAMs aren't nasty.
Whatever makes you think they are?
On Aug 27, 9:03 pm, Kevin Wright wrote:
> What really gets my goat though... It's the pro-java/anti-scala crowd
> who are pushing the claim that "Scala is only for smart people".
>
> Myself, and
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Literally everybody (but not Oracle): AOL, Apple, eBay, Facebook,
Google, Netflix, Office Depot, OfficeMax, Staples, Yahoo and Google.
http://nsbnews.net/content/294735-paul-allen-sues-apple-google-others-over-patents-wall-street-journal
http://www.b
I'm glad that I didn't get tickets this year. I'm going to StrangeLoop and
maybe CodeMash. Both are cheaper and have lots of good speakers. Wish I had
gone before it got butchered like this. Just never had the money or the
company support to go.
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Romain Pelisse wro
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It was also pointed out to me that, at least on Solaris, /bin/kill -
ILL %p, will produce cause a core dump and allow the OnError handler
to run while /bin/kill -9 %p doesn't.
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Well, bring it on !
Google / Oracle war seems to be only starting... sadly probably for the
worst rather than for the best :(
On 27 August 2010 23:13, Marcelo Fukushima wrote:
> Im not sure its related, but i just read this:
>
> http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2010/08/update-on-javaone.html
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Im not sure its related, but i just read this:
http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2010/08/update-on-javaone.html
on which Josh Bloch says Google is not going to present on JavaOne
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:11 PM, B Smith-Mannschott
wrote:
> Hi all,
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> I just ran across this post:
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> http://www.j
What really gets my goat though... It's the pro-java/anti-scala crowd
who are pushing the claim that "Scala is only for smart people".
Myself, and the rest of the Scala evangelists on this list are going
to great pains to point out that: no, actually, Scala is for everyone.
I don't think that any
Thank you Casper. I wasn't aware of the sun.misc.Unsafe class, that
does the trick.
Here's what I came up with:
{code}
public class ForceCoreDump
{
public static void main( String[] args ) throws Exception
{
java.lang.reflect.Field field =
sun.misc.Unsafe.class.getDeclaredField(
I also would like to point out that the Java vs Scala debate is quite
pointless.
Scala is Java. It runs on a JVM, the language itself is coded with Java and
you can even directly use Java object inside a Scala program.
Opposing Scala to Java is a bit like opposing Java to C. Last time I check,
th
Those are very noble goals, but I think there's a much easier way to promote
Scala on the basis of its functional programming merits to Java programmers.
Simply isolate a few examples of Java expressing functional style (easy to find
with event-driven stuff), admit that it works, and then show
I now know which thread to start a good troll on. Yay for JavaPosse mailing
lists... Where I find most of my amusement throughout the week.
In any case, It seems like we should just stop arguing and start doing
amazing things in our language of choice. I know I get paid to write
applications t
> HTC gives a slower response time on heavy Internet usage. Ditto for
> Motorola & others...
Huh? Android 2.2 on modern hardware beats the iPhone in browser
benchmarks:
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/android-22-webkit-browser-faster-than-ios-safari-at-javascript
> Anyways, a format of your phone
These brands are not resistant enough to stress testing ,in different
environments.
HTC gives a slower response time on heavy Internet usage. Ditto for
Motorola & others...
Anyways, a format of your phone is needed for faster responses..
Thanks,
jd
On 8/27/10, Casper Bang wrote:
> Glad to hear t
On Aug 27, 4:07 am, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> If this is your interpretation of what "programming language" means,
> then my argument becomes quite a bit simpler:
>
> No programming language has ever become popular because of its
> featureset. They lucked into it based on the features of platfo
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Hell, I didn't receive updates from this thread for a couple of days...
I'd like to comment this point from Kevin:
"I refuse to accept any philosophy that is fundamentally based on the
premise that people are stupid"
There's a serious flaw in this
Most of the successful languages of today and yesterday, made it by
accident. Who would have thought a language for toasters and similar mini
devices would have become the leader in Enterprise (aka Java). Look at PHP,
its best described as a mess, but somehow its simplicity seemed to have won
a lea
Ahh but you are not brave enough to get into which mushrooms are of
the toxic kind? ;)
On Aug 27, 10:21 am, Wildam Martin wrote:
> I thought the mushroom season for this year is over ;-) - but season
> for new programming languages seams to be everlasting...
>
> For the language freak folks - her
I think Scala has the potential to become a 15% language, by superceeding
Java:
- It does everything Java does, usually better, and with less boilerplate
- It can be written very much like Java at first, so the transition is
easy
- It adds type inference and closures, the two most hea
I'm going to take a tangent here, and open state my reasons for defending
Scala so strongly:
1. The majority of Java programmers haven't even heard of Scala, let alone
looked at it. Hopefully a heated debate will encourage people to think
"What's all this fuss about..."
2. To break the preconcep
I thought the mushroom season for this year is over ;-) - but season
for new programming languages seams to be everlasting...
For the language freak folks - here is yet another language you can learn:
http://newspeaklanguage.org/
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If this is your interpretation of what "programming language" means,
then my argument becomes quite a bit simpler:
No programming language has ever become popular because of its
featureset. They lucked into it based on the features of platforms
which peddle that language as preferred language.
Sc
Ah, yes, we've come full circle. Scala fan defends poor language
design choice by saying that it wouldn't have happened if you
programmed purely functional.
Newsflash, Kevin: If you want to stick to pure programming, there are
far better languages than scala out there, such as Haskell or Clojure.
> Do you think that is the good way to promote Scala???
It's certainly a very popular approach, although if you want to be
insulted, listen to Ted Neward digressing that there will always be a
need for people flipping burgers.
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On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Oscar Hsieh wrote:
> Gosh .. I am sorry but are you saying that Scala is for the experts and
> Java for regular people like me???
> Do you think that is the good way to promote Scala??? I hope you are wrong
> otherwise the future
> of Scala looks very grim.
>
> A
Gosh .. I am sorry but are you saying that Scala is for the experts and Java
for regular people like me???
Do you think that is the good way to promote Scala??? I hope you are wrong
otherwise the future
of Scala looks very grim.
And of course a language can give you ALOT MORE than syntax sugar.
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