[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-15 Thread Lenny P
I was never comparing statistics for comparison's sake, Helicopters especially, and General Aviation has an undeserved reputation of being unsafe, which is false, so I was trying to explain that it is indeed safe. On Jan 15, 2:42 am, Vince O'Sullivan vjosulli...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 14, 2:27 

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-14 Thread Vince O'Sullivan
On Jan 13, 3:14 pm, Lenny P lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us wrote: Most heli, like airplane accidents are pilot error, so discounting that it's safer to fly than to drive. And I image that if you discount mechanical failure then helicopter flying is safer still. It's disingenious to eliminate accidents

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-14 Thread Kevin Wright
Statistically, fixed wing is safer than rotating wing. That said, flying is the second safest way you can travel (walking included) The safest is hovercraft :) 2010/1/14 Dominic Mitchell d...@happygiraffe.net 2010/1/13 Lenny P lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us Most heli, like airplane accidents are

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-14 Thread shainnif
Lies,dam lies and statistics Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@googlemail.com Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:29:18 To: javaposse@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter Statistically, fixed wing is safer

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-14 Thread Alexey Zinger
the general public does in terms of acquiring skills for driving vs flying... Alexey From: Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@googlemail.com To: javaposse@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, January 14, 2010 4:29:18 AM Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter Statistically

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-14 Thread fcassia
On Jan 5, 9:56 am, Jack jackg...@gmail.com wrote: Is it anything like this one by any chance? (Possibly NSFW)http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/rc/b527/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbnySBqioB0 FC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-14 Thread Vince O'Sullivan
On Jan 14, 2:27 pm, Lenny P lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us wrote: You can certainly eliminate certain pilot errors from statistics depending on your mission. Indeed. I was merely pointing out that in your mission to demonstrate that helicopters were safer than cars, you were comparing helicopter

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-13 Thread Lenny P
kev.lee.wri...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter To: javaposse@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 1:44 PM Besides the cost? 2010/1/12 Lenny P lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us Why not fly a real

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-13 Thread Lenny P
: From: Lenny P lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter To: The Java Posse javaposse@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:14 AM I fly in the most expensive place near Manhattan, it's $275/hr + instructor, for flight time only, not for 'total time

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-13 Thread Casper Bang
me with flying is safer than driving, but then I realized most auto accidents are also caused by user error... sigh... --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Lenny P lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us wrote: From: Lenny P lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter To: The Java Posse

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-13 Thread Lenny P
Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter To: The Java Posse javaposse@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:14 AM I fly in the most expensive place near Manhattan, it's $275/hr + instructor, for flight time only, not for 'total time' so it actually is more

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-13 Thread Casper Bang
is safer than driving, but then I realized most auto accidents are also caused by user error... sigh... --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Lenny P lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us wrote: From: Lenny P lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter To: The Java Posse

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-12 Thread Lenny P
Why not fly a real helicopter? It's a lot of fun and a rewarding accomplishment. On Jan 6, 3:53 am, Phil p...@haigh-family.com wrote: I have something similar to what Tor described, erm sorry, I bought one for my son last Christmas!! After playing with his indoor toy for some time I ended up

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-12 Thread Kevin Wright
Besides the cost? 2010/1/12 Lenny P lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us Why not fly a real helicopter? It's a lot of fun and a rewarding accomplishment. On Jan 6, 3:53 am, Phil p...@haigh-family.com wrote: I have something similar to what Tor described, erm sorry, I bought one for my son last

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-12 Thread Marcelo Fukushima
and, you know, possibly kill yourself On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@googlemail.com wrote: Besides the cost? 2010/1/12 Lenny P lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us Why not fly a real helicopter?  It's a lot of fun and a rewarding accomplishment. On Jan 6, 3:53 am, Phil

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-12 Thread Scott Melton
And the risk to life and limb? --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter To: javaposse@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 1:44 PM Besides the cost

[The Java Posse] Re: Joe's R/C Copter

2010-01-05 Thread Casper Bang
Piggy bagging here... and what large heli does he have hidden away? Are we talking T-Rex 500 or the like? http://www.vimeo.com/927404 /Casper On Jan 5, 1:56 pm, Jack jackg...@gmail.com wrote: Is it anything like this one by any chance? (Possibly NSFW)http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/rc/b527/