Well, the idea that something was taking over was the key. Once I removed Macafee, hot-god, no more losing focus. Thanks. BTW, I have only done the removal on my computer but I did check out the removal tool on their site and I didn't see anything that seemed like the actual download. When I clicked on any of the things that seemed like they should be the download, they were only a graphic. How important is it to get all of it off?
Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:01 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: JAWS-Users-List Digest, Vol 381, Issue 3 Send JAWS-Users-List mailing list submissions to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://jaws-users.com/mailman/listinfo/jaws-users-list_jaws-users.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to jaws-users-list-requ...@jaws-users.com You can reach the person managing the list at jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of JAWS-Users-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Bouncing Notifications (REGilman) 2. regarding the web page (David Ferrin) 3. Re: Bouncing Notifications (Joseph Hudson) 4. Re: Bouncing Notifications (David Ferrin) 5. Jaws and Vipre (Geno9802) 6. Re: Bouncing Notifications (petras) 7. Re: removing MacAfee (Pinky) 8. Re: Bouncing Notifications (Joseph Hudson) 9. Re: Bouncing Notifications (REGilman) 10. Re: Bouncing Notifications (Tom) 11. Re: Bouncing Notifications (Joseph Hudson) 12. Re: removing MacAfee (Lenny McHugh) 13. Re: Bouncing Notifications (valiant8086) 14. Re: Line Number (gs) 15. Re: Line Number (Mike B) 16. Jaws continually losing focus. (Bonnie Lucas) 17. Re: Jaws continually losing focus. (Tim Ford) 18. Re: Jaws continually losing focus. (wayne smith) 19. Want to leave the unread left on emails (Kurt Miller) 20. Re: removing MacAfee (Kimsan) 21. A guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 (David Bailes) 22. Re: A guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 (Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)) 23. Re: Bouncing Notifications (David Ferrin) 24. Re: Labeling a form field (Catherine Walsh) 25. Re: A guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 (David Ferrin) 26. Re: Bouncing Notifications (David Ferrin) 27. Re: Bouncing Notifications (David Ferrin) 28. Re: Jaws continually losing focus. (Dialup@56k) 29. Re: removing MacAfee (Bissett, Tom) 30. Re: removing MacAfee (Kimsan) 31. Re: removing MacAfee (Bissett, Tom) 32. Re: removing MacAfee (Mario) 33. Re: Jaws continually losing focus. (Don Queen) 34. Re: A guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 (jim) 35. Re: removing MacAfee (Kimsan) 36. Re: Jaws continually losing focus. (jim) 37. Re: Jaws continually losing focus. (jim) 38. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: removing MacAfee (Baracco, Andrew W) 39. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: removing MacAfee (Kimsan) 40. Re: Jaws continually losing focus. (Kimber Gardner) 41. My Documents (Jim Ronald) 42. Macafee removal tool (T. Civitello) 43. Macafee removal tool (T. Civitello) 44. Cannot get MS updates to download and install (Neil Towery ) 45. Re: Want to leave the unread left on emails (Mike B) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 14:40:55 -0500 From: "REGilman" <regil...@metrocast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Message-ID: <071401d15483$a5187ef0$ef497cd0$@metrocast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi All, Please be sure to follow the directions if you get an e mail saying that you are bouncing. There currently seems to be a problem with Road Runner addresses. But others may also be affected in the very near future. So just be sure to do as the e mail instructs and you will be back to normal. Thanks, Bob Gilman Moderator ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 15:45:08 -0500 From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the web page Message-ID: <000001d1548c$9d850470$d88f0d50$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I just fixed a broken link reported to me by a list member, so the point of this message is 2 fold. First of all to thank her for letting me know. Secondly to let the rest of you out there be aware that if you would happen to find a broken link to let me know so I can either fix it, or if I can't then just remove it. ow...@jaws-users.com David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:51:27 +0000 From: Joseph Hudson <jhud7...@outlook.com> To: "jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Message-ID: <bn3pr1201mb096417d3fd2e1f3a586d83bcce...@bn3pr1201mb0964.namprd12.prod.outl ook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Bob, I've occasionally had this happen I'm in the mailman list that I am on and myself and the owners have had to constantly reenable a bunch of accounts when this happens. We had to do this, because they weren't receiving the notification. And particular, the groups that Alan Robbins runs is where I've had to do this. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com> I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:40 PM, REGilman <regil...@metrocast.net<mailto:regil...@metrocast.net>> wrote: Hi All, Please be sure to follow the directions if you get an e mail saying that you are bouncing. There currently seems to be a problem with Road Runner addresses. But others may also be affected in the very near future. So just be sure to do as the e mail instructs and you will be back to normal. Thanks, Bob Gilman Moderator For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:32:52 -0500 From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Message-ID: <E49473C002F44F6E827CF9FCD872F374@David> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I set this server to take care of that kind of thing on its' own. You folks have to follow the directions in the message you receive in order to reactivate your accounts. Mailman is tuff to setup at first but after that it's a well oiled machine. People have asked me for help with Mailman. Now I do a lot for free but Mailman is not one of those things that fall in that category. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Hudson Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Hi Bob, I've occasionally had this happen I'm in the mailman list that I am on and myself and the owners have had to constantly reenable a bunch of accounts when this happens. We had to do this, because they weren't receiving the notification. And particular, the groups that Alan Robbins runs is where I've had to do this. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com> I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:40 PM, REGilman <regil...@metrocast.net<mailto:regil...@metrocast.net>> wrote: Hi All, Please be sure to follow the directions if you get an e mail saying that you are bouncing. There currently seems to be a problem with Road Runner addresses. But others may also be affected in the very near future. So just be sure to do as the e mail instructs and you will be back to normal. Thanks, Bob Gilman Moderator For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:40:00 -0500 From: "Geno9802" <geno9...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws and Vipre Message-ID: <009301d15494$487e1310$d97a3930$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I just installed this program. A little bird from Germany said it slowed down his computer, as Internet based. Being Me not a Tech, person. I want to know because I have hardly any down and up load speed. I want to know before Time Warner Internet shows up here tomorrow, Friday, between 3 and 4pm to check the lines on the cable and their box. Over all it seems to be running smoothly and found nothing. Pretty straight forward for me, just some areas in It I won't go, 98% of it Jaws 17 is reading. Just want to know if a hog on the Internet side of things? Geno and thanks in advance ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 13:53:45 -0800 From: petras <zumbage...@gmail.com> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Message-ID: <56a15397.8cb3420a.b36dc.ffff8...@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed When will this happen? What happens if you dont follow the instructions? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date sent: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:32:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications I set this server to take care of that kind of thing on its' own. You folks have to follow the directions in the message you receive in order to reactivate your accounts. Mailman is tuff to setup at first but after that it's a well oiled machine. People have asked me for help with Mailman. Now I do a lot for free but Mailman is not one of those things that fall in that category. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Hudson Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Hi Bob, I've occasionally had this happen I'm in the mailman list that I am on and myself and the owners have had to constantly reenable a bunch of accounts when this happens. We had to do this, because they weren't receiving the notification. And particular, the groups that Alan Robbins runs is where I've had to do this. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:40 PM, REGilman <regil...@metrocast.net<mailto:regil...@metrocast.net>> wrote: Hi All, Please be sure to follow the directions if you get an e mail saying that you are bouncing. There currently seems to be a problem with Road Runner addresses. But others may also be affected in the very near future. So just be sure to do as the e mail instructs and you will be back to normal. Thanks, Bob Gilman Moderator For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:28:10 -0600 From: "Pinky" <pink...@abe.midco.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Message-ID: <00fe01d1549b$04d2c140$0e7843c0$@abe.midco.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I removed it from my brother in laws pc. I had no issues. Ed -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:00 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Is there any problems removing MacAfee anti virus software. I know a few years ago I could not remove Norton from my daughter's computer. even their removal tool did not work. The lap top came with a 30 day free MacAfee antivirus. For vipre I had purchased a 2 year 2 computer package. For $29 I can add the 3rd computer. I still have 13 months on that contract. --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 22:29:02 +0000 From: Joseph Hudson <jhud7...@outlook.com> To: "jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Message-ID: <bn3pr1201mb09645167c41c3bef10ec5b10ce...@bn3pr1201mb0964.namprd12.prod.outl ook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi David, we haven't set up the same way. However, sometimes the server would just act wonky, and do whatever it wanted to. Let for instance, almost a year ago now, Alan when I'm vacation like he is now, And I would say's coma for one of his groups. And what it happened, a's we have over 40 bouncers at the current time on one group before he left, he had to give me Athens permissions in order to go and fix those. And he also had to put me in contact with the holster people which was over a host in order to fixed the issues while he was going on vacation because I was the only one that he could get a hold of. So in everybody else's case year, what I suggest you do is if you noticed that you're not receiving mail and you know what your list password is or if you know how to retrieve it, I suggest you do so and you can login and check your own mailman settings and this floor also apply if you don't receive a notification to reenable your mail via email. Blah Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com> I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com> On Jan 21, 2016, at 3:32 PM, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com<mailto:ow...@jaws-users.com>> wrote: I set this server to take care of that kind of thing on its' own. You folks have to follow the directions in the message you receive in order to reactivate your accounts. Mailman is tuff to setup at first but after that it's a well oiled machine. People have asked me for help with Mailman. Now I do a lot for free but Mailman is not one of those things that fall in that category. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Hudson Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com<mailto:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Hi Bob, I've occasionally had this happen I'm in the mailman list that I am on and myself and the owners have had to constantly reenable a bunch of accounts when this happens. We had to do this, because they weren't receiving the notification. And particular, the groups that Alan Robbins runs is where I've had to do this. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com><mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com> I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com><mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:40 PM, REGilman <regil...@metrocast.net<mailto:regil...@metrocast.net><mailto:regilman@metro cast.net>> wrote: Hi All, Please be sure to follow the directions if you get an e mail saying that you are bouncing. There currently seems to be a problem with Road Runner addresses. But others may also be affected in the very near future. So just be sure to do as the e mail instructs and you will be back to normal. Thanks, Bob Gilman Moderator For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:01:27 -0500 From: "REGilman" <regil...@metrocast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Message-ID: <073c01d1549f$a8fc1100$faf43300$@metrocast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, It may never happen. But if it does and you don't follow the directions in the e mail Mailman will eventually remove the bouncing e mail account. Thanks, Bob -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of petras Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications When will this happen? What happens if you dont follow the instructions? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date sent: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:32:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications I set this server to take care of that kind of thing on its' own. You folks have to follow the directions in the message you receive in order to reactivate your accounts. Mailman is tuff to setup at first but after that it's a well oiled machine. People have asked me for help with Mailman. Now I do a lot for free but Mailman is not one of those things that fall in that category. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Hudson Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Hi Bob, I've occasionally had this happen I'm in the mailman list that I am on and myself and the owners have had to constantly reenable a bunch of accounts when this happens. We had to do this, because they weren't receiving the notification. And particular, the groups that Alan Robbins runs is where I've had to do this. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:40 PM, REGilman <regil...@metrocast.net<mailto:regil...@metrocast.net>> wrote: Hi All, Please be sure to follow the directions if you get an e mail saying that you are bouncing. There currently seems to be a problem with Road Runner addresses. But others may also be affected in the very near future. So just be sure to do as the e mail instructs and you will be back to normal. Thanks, Bob Gilman Moderator For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 17:11:49 -0600 From: "Tom" <tclar...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Message-ID: <DD14EAB2C56A4F74B8489AA320DF42D6@tclary10PC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original what is bouncing? -----Original Message----- From: REGilman Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 5:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Hi, It may never happen. But if it does and you don't follow the directions in the e mail Mailman will eventually remove the bouncing e mail account. Thanks, Bob -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of petras Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications When will this happen? What happens if you dont follow the instructions? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date sent: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:32:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications I set this server to take care of that kind of thing on its' own. You folks have to follow the directions in the message you receive in order to reactivate your accounts. Mailman is tuff to setup at first but after that it's a well oiled machine. People have asked me for help with Mailman. Now I do a lot for free but Mailman is not one of those things that fall in that category. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Hudson Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Hi Bob, I've occasionally had this happen I'm in the mailman list that I am on and myself and the owners have had to constantly reenable a bunch of accounts when this happens. We had to do this, because they weren't receiving the notification. And particular, the groups that Alan Robbins runs is where I've had to do this. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:40 PM, REGilman <regil...@metrocast.net<mailto:regil...@metrocast.net>> wrote: Hi All, Please be sure to follow the directions if you get an e mail saying that you are bouncing. There currently seems to be a problem with Road Runner addresses. But others may also be affected in the very near future. So just be sure to do as the e mail instructs and you will be back to normal. Thanks, Bob Gilman Moderator For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:20:29 +0000 From: Joseph Hudson <jhud7...@outlook.com> To: "jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Message-ID: <bn3pr1201mb0964a39e44c85ac2c165e6bece...@bn3pr1201mb0964.namprd12.prod.outl ook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello, in this case it means win mailman text that your email provider has received too many emails from this list,/any other list. It will disable your mail. So want to messages sent to the group, it's going to bounce back to the server until the server that this individual has too many emails and ask the server to reenable it's mail. So that's when you will get an email from mailman asking to reset your account. I hope this answers all your questions, and if you need any further explanations or if anybody needs any more further exclamations feel free to right myself or the owners of this list for further clarification. As I'm willing to help. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com> I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com> On Jan 21, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Tom <tclar...@gmail.com<mailto:tclar...@gmail.com>> wrote: what is bouncing? -----Original Message----- From: REGilman Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 5:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com<mailto:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Hi, It may never happen. But if it does and you don't follow the directions in the e mail Mailman will eventually remove the bouncing e mail account. Thanks, Bob -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of petras Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com<mailto:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications When will this happen? What happens if you dont follow the instructions? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com<mailto:ow...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com<mailto:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Date sent: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:32:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications I set this server to take care of that kind of thing on its' own. You folks have to follow the directions in the message you receive in order to reactivate your accounts. Mailman is tuff to setup at first but after that it's a well oiled machine. People have asked me for help with Mailman. Now I do a lot for free but Mailman is not one of those things that fall in that category. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Hudson Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com<mailto:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Hi Bob, I've occasionally had this happen I'm in the mailman list that I am on and myself and the owners have had to constantly reenable a bunch of accounts when this happens. We had to do this, because they weren't receiving the notification. And particular, the groups that Alan Robbins runs is where I've had to do this. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com><mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:40 PM, REGilman <regil...@metrocast.net<mailto:regil...@metrocast.net>> wrote: Hi All, Please be sure to follow the directions if you get an e mail saying that you are bouncing. There currently seems to be a problem with Road Runner addresses. But others may also be affected in the very near future. So just be sure to do as the e mail instructs and you will be back to normal. Thanks, Bob Gilman Moderator For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 21:00:54 -0500 From: "Lenny McHugh" <lennymch...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Message-ID: <F6F2A338A94E464D98E8F75B74247CD9@OwnerPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original thanks, just wanted a heads up -----Original Message----- From: Pinky Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 5:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee I removed it from my brother in laws pc. I had no issues. Ed -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:00 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Is there any problems removing MacAfee anti virus software. I know a few years ago I could not remove Norton from my daughter's computer. even their removal tool did not work. The lap top came with a 30 day free MacAfee antivirus. For vipre I had purchased a 2 year 2 computer package. For $29 I can add the 3rd computer. I still have 13 months on that contract. --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 21:05:43 -0500 From: valiant8086 <valiant8...@gmail.com> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Message-ID: <56a18e77.1080...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Hi. I'm not sure if it's better or worse than mail man, but I use dadamail for my two list serves. For you technical types out there, it doesn't require a cron job or anything too fancy like that. If I recall, you have to set up an email address for everyone on the list to send to, and set that host up to forward the mails received there to another email account, which dadamail monitors. Dadamail doesn't support conversation list serves by default, just listen only ones, but it has a plugin that is included with it which you can turn on to get this functionality. I still find it rather tricky to set up. Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.5.0 portable On 1/21/2016 5:29 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote: > Hi David, we haven't set up the same way. However, sometimes the server would just act wonky, and do whatever it wanted to. Let for instance, almost a year ago now, Alan when I'm vacation like he is now, And I would say's coma for one of his groups. And what it happened, a's we have over 40 bouncers at the current time on one group before he left, he had to give me Athens permissions in order to go and fix those. And he also had to put me in contact with the holster people which was over a host in order to fixed the issues while he was going on vacation because I was the only one that he could get a hold of. So in everybody else's case year, what I suggest you do is if you noticed that you're not receiving mail and you know what your list password is or if you know how to retrieve it, I suggest you do so and you can login and check your own mailman settings and this floor also apply if you don't receive a notification to reenable your mail via email. Blah > Joseph Hudson > Email > jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com> > I device support > Telephone > 2543007667 > Skype > joseph.hudson89 facebook > https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 > Twitter > https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 > FaceTime/iMessage > jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com> > > On Jan 21, 2016, at 3:32 PM, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com<mailto:ow...@jaws-users.com>> wrote: > > I set this server to take care of that kind of thing on its' own. You folks have to follow the directions in the message you receive in order to reactivate your accounts. Mailman is tuff to setup at first but after that it's a well oiled machine. > > People have asked me for help with Mailman. Now I do a lot for free but Mailman is not one of those things that fall in that category. > -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Hudson > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:51 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com<mailto:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications > > Hi Bob, I've occasionally had this happen I'm in the mailman list that I am on and myself and the owners have had to constantly reenable a bunch of accounts when this happens. We had to do this, because they weren't receiving the notification. And particular, the groups that Alan Robbins runs is where I've had to do this. > Joseph Hudson > Email > jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com><mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com> > I device support > Telephone > 2543007667 > Skype > joseph.hudson89 facebook > https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 > Twitter > https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 > FaceTime/iMessage > jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com><mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com> > > On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:40 PM, REGilman <regil...@metrocast.net<mailto:regil...@metrocast.net><mailto:regilman@metro cast.net>> wrote: > > Hi All, > > Please be sure to follow the directions if you get an e mail saying that > you are bouncing. There currently seems to be a problem with Road Runner > addresses. But others may also be affected in the very near future. So just > be sure to do as the e mail instructs and you will be back to normal. > > Thanks, > > Bob Gilman > > Moderator > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > David Ferrin > You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 21:08:36 -0500 From: gs <geoffsli...@gmail.com> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Line Number Message-ID: <970b5f52-9dfd-402b-928f-f8218e278...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The simplest way is to just press J. The default line number which is already entered is the current line number. Depending on the environment/version of JAWS, this does not get announced when J is pressed so you might never know it was there unless you investigated it. On Jan 20, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Steve Cook <stc...@sccb.sc.gov> wrote: Hi All, While on a website. How can I determine the line number I am on? For example: You are on line 125, this way I could use the jump to line keystroke in the future. Using JAWS 16 and IE 11. Thanks in advance! Steve Cook Cataracts are among the leading causes of vision loss worldwide; they are usually treatable. Has an ophthalmologist diagnosed you or a loved one with cataracts? Do you need cataract surgery but can't afford the cost? If you're a SC resident and U.S. citizen not covered by Medicare, Medicaid or other insurance; and have cataracts in both eyes, we at the SC Commission for the Blind may be able to help. Give us a call at 888.335.5951 or find us online at www.sccb.state.sc.us For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:44:15 -0800 From: "Mike B" <mb69ma...@charter.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Line Number Message-ID: <007401d154be$c90b85b0$6f01a8c0@MikePC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi GS, Thank you very much. This is a great tip. Take care. Mike Global warming? Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians! ----- Original Message ----- From: gs To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Line Number The simplest way is to just press J. The default line number which is already entered is the current line number. Depending on the environment/version of JAWS, this does not get announced when J is pressed so you might never know it was there unless you investigated it. On Jan 20, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Steve Cook <stc...@sccb.sc.gov> wrote: Hi All, While on a website. How can I determine the line number I am on? For example: You are on line 125, this way I could use the jump to line keystroke in the future. Using JAWS 16 and IE 11. Thanks in advance! Steve Cook Cataracts are among the leading causes of vision loss worldwide; they are usually treatable. Has an ophthalmologist diagnosed you or a loved one with cataracts? Do you need cataract surgery but can't afford the cost? If you're a SC resident and U.S. citizen not covered by Medicare, Medicaid or other insurance; and have cataracts in both eyes, we at the SC Commission for the Blind may be able to help. Give us a call at 888.335.5951 or find us online at www.sccb.state.sc.us For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:33:09 -0900 From: Bonnie Lucas <lucas.bon...@gmail.com> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. Message-ID: <6d679b0e-d216-43ff-a7f0-eafa86e28...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, I have a new Windows 10 computer and I am using jaws 17. It seems to have been losing focus fairly often all along, but now it is so bad, I could not even think about writing this email on my computer. Hence, I am using my phone. Anyway, if someone has any ideas, please let me know. It is a small Lenovo laptop and it has become unbearable. Thanks for any help! Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 19:41:42 -0800 From: "Tim Ford" <ttf...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. Message-ID: <52066716d28b4afaaa82dcff3085d...@intra.dhs.ca.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Bonnie, Is the touch pad on? That will for sure cause these strange jumps if you are grazing the touch pad. I keep mine turned off just for this reason. Tim Ford -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie Lucas Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 7:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. Hello, I have a new Windows 10 computer and I am using jaws 17. It seems to have been losing focus fairly often all along, but now it is so bad, I could not even think about writing this email on my computer. Hence, I am using my phone. Anyway, if someone has any ideas, please let me know. It is a small Lenovo laptop and it has become unbearable. Thanks for any help! Sent from my iPhone For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 22:56:01 -0600 From: "wayne smith" <waynesoundsm...@earthlink.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. Message-ID: <005001d154d1$3153ab40$93fb01c0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have had the same issue because of the touch pad on the computer. My old Asus let me simply toggle the pad off and on with an FN key combo. I have just purchased an HP and the FN ke does not work unless a sighted person goes in and makes some changes. Wayne -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Bonnie Lucas Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 9:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. Hello, I have a new Windows 10 computer and I am using jaws 17. It seems to have been losing focus fairly often all along, but now it is so bad, I could not even think about writing this email on my computer. Hence, I am using my phone. Anyway, if someone has any ideas, please let me know. It is a small Lenovo laptop and it has become unbearable. Thanks for any help! Sent from my iPhone For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 00:06:15 -0500 From: "Kurt Miller" <millerb...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Want to leave the unread left on emails Message-ID: <020b01d154d2$9ff11fa0$dfd35ee0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, I just got my email set up to outlook 2010 and would like to have the unread message left on the emails that I have not read yet. Now when I pass over 1, the unread message goes away. I changed this on my old system but that has been a couple years ago and do not remember how to change it. All help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Kurt After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 22:56:58 -0800 From: Kimsan <kimsans...@outlook.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Message-ID: <col402-eas10636b2fba9109c815d35e8da...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I thought I removed it entirely, but in windows explorer, this is a windows 7 box, I can't remember the name of it, but there is a mcafee volt that I have no idea how to remove. Thoughts? -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee I removed it from my brother in laws pc. I had no issues. Ed -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:00 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Is there any problems removing MacAfee anti virus software. I know a few years ago I could not remove Norton from my daughter's computer. even their removal tool did not work. The lap top came with a 30 day free MacAfee antivirus. For vipre I had purchased a 2 year 2 computer package. For $29 I can add the 3rd computer. I still have 13 months on that contract. --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:47:08 +0000 (UTC) From: David Bailes <david_bai...@yahoo.co.uk> To: Jaws Users <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] A guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 Message-ID: <1826236238.14643542.1453463228213.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I've written a guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10. It covers the Start menu, search, Cortana, the taskbar buttons, the notification area, and notifications. It's available here: http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-Guide.html Any feedback is welcome, David. ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:30:20 +0000 From: "Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)" <steven.hi...@nhs.net> To: "jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 Message-ID: <20160122123023.03e17449...@nhs-pd1e-esg107.ad1.nhs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This is brilliant, thanks very much! -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Bailes Sent: 22 January 2016 11:47 To: Jaws Users Subject: [JAWS-Users] A guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 Warning: This message contains unverified links which may not be safe. You should only click links if you are sure they are from a trusted source. I've written a guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10. It covers the Start menu, search, Cortana, the taskbar buttons, the notification area, and notifications. It's available here: http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-Guide.html Any feedback is welcome, David. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ **************************************************************************** **************************************** This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. 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David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of valiant8086 Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 9:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Hi. I'm not sure if it's better or worse than mail man, but I use dadamail for my two list serves. For you technical types out there, it doesn't require a cron job or anything too fancy like that. If I recall, you have to set up an email address for everyone on the list to send to, and set that host up to forward the mails received there to another email account, which dadamail monitors. Dadamail doesn't support conversation list serves by default, just listen only ones, but it has a plugin that is included with it which you can turn on to get this functionality. I still find it rather tricky to set up. Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.5.0 portable On 1/21/2016 5:29 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote: > Hi David, we haven't set up the same way. However, sometimes the > server would just act wonky, and do whatever it wanted to. Let for > instance, almost a year ago now, Alan when I'm vacation like he is > now, And I would say's coma for one of his groups. And what it > happened, a's we have over 40 bouncers at the current time on one > group before he left, he had to give me Athens permissions in order to > go and fix those. And he also had to put me in contact with the > holster people which was over a host in order to fixed the issues > while he was going on vacation because I was the only one that he > could get a hold of. So in everybody else's case year, what I suggest > you do is if you noticed that you're not receiving mail and you know > what your list password is or if you know how to retrieve it, I > suggest you do so and you can login and check your own mailman > settings and this floor also apply if you don't receive a notification > to reenable your mail via email. Blah Joseph Hudson Email > jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com> > I device support > Telephone > 2543007667 > Skype > joseph.hudson89 facebook > https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 > Twitter > https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 > FaceTime/iMessage > jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com> > > On Jan 21, 2016, at 3:32 PM, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com<mailto:ow...@jaws-users.com>> wrote: > > I set this server to take care of that kind of thing on its' own. You folks have to follow the directions in the message you receive in order to reactivate your accounts. Mailman is tuff to setup at first but after that it's a well oiled machine. > > People have asked me for help with Mailman. Now I do a lot for free but Mailman is not one of those things that fall in that category. > -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Hudson > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:51 PM > To: > jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com<mailto:jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications > > Hi Bob, I've occasionally had this happen I'm in the mailman list that I am on and myself and the owners have had to constantly reenable a bunch of accounts when this happens. We had to do this, because they weren't receiving the notification. And particular, the groups that Alan Robbins runs is where I've had to do this. > Joseph Hudson > Email > jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com><mailto:jhud7...@gmail.co > m> > I device support > Telephone > 2543007667 > Skype > joseph.hudson89 facebook > https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 > Twitter > https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 > FaceTime/iMessage > jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com><mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.co > m> > > On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:40 PM, REGilman <regil...@metrocast.net<mailto:regil...@metrocast.net><mailto:regilman@metro cast.net>> wrote: > > Hi All, > > Please be sure to follow the directions if you get an e mail saying > that you are bouncing. There currently seems to be a problem with > Road Runner addresses. But others may also be affected in the very > near future. So just be sure to do as the e mail instructs and you will be back to normal. > > Thanks, > > Bob Gilman > > Moderator > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > David Ferrin > You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 07:34:22 -0500 From: "Catherine Walsh" <cwalsh1...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Labeling a form field Message-ID: <000001d15511$3922ec10$ab68c430$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks Neil. These instructions worked and it made it really easy for my boss and I to label the form fields. Thanks again. Kate Walsh -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Neil Towery Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 7:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Labeling a form field I think these will work, even to change the name of a field. At least, they worked several years ago. Labeling unlabelled form fields This is an incredibly frustrating problem. You can type in your own custom labels. But, it takes a sighted person to help you. 1. Go to the form field that is not read out by JAWS. 2. Have the sighted person read to you the label on the field. 3. Hold down the insert key and strike the F2 key. 4. Arrow down to custom label and strike enter. 5. You will hear a high pitch and the word edit. 6. Type in the label you want. 7. Tab to the OK button and strike enter. Neil Towery -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Catherine Walsh Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 5:25 PM To: Jaws List Group Subject: [JAWS-Users] Labeling a form field Hi all, We needed to upgrade my computer at work from JAWS 13 TO JAWS 17 and office 2013. I need to label some for fields and I am not sure how to do it. I would appreciate if someone could send me instructions on how to label a form field. Thanks in advance. Kate Walsh --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 07:37:01 -0500 From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 Message-ID: <001401d15511$97d86000$c7892000$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If it is as good as the other articles I have reviewed from you then I feel certain it will be quite complete, thank you for making it available to everybody. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Bailes Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:47 AM To: Jaws Users Subject: [JAWS-Users] A guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 I've written a guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10. It covers the Start menu, search, Cortana, the taskbar buttons, the notification area, and notifications. It's available here: http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-Guide.html Any feedback is welcome, David. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 07:38:45 -0500 From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Message-ID: <001501d15511$d5926080$80b72180$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If your account bounces you will receive a message telling you to reply to reactivate your normal mail delivery. If you do not then the server will remove you after a given amount of time. It is easy for you and for us as well. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of petras Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications When will this happen? What happens if you dont follow the instructions? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date sent: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:32:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications I set this server to take care of that kind of thing on its' own. You folks have to follow the directions in the message you receive in order to reactivate your accounts. Mailman is tuff to setup at first but after that it's a well oiled machine. People have asked me for help with Mailman. Now I do a lot for free but Mailman is not one of those things that fall in that category. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Hudson Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Hi Bob, I've occasionally had this happen I'm in the mailman list that I am on and myself and the owners have had to constantly reenable a bunch of accounts when this happens. We had to do this, because they weren't receiving the notification. And particular, the groups that Alan Robbins runs is where I've had to do this. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:40 PM, REGilman <regil...@metrocast.net<mailto:regil...@metrocast.net>> wrote: Hi All, Please be sure to follow the directions if you get an e mail saying that you are bouncing. There currently seems to be a problem with Road Runner addresses. But others may also be affected in the very near future. So just be sure to do as the e mail instructs and you will be back to normal. Thanks, Bob Gilman Moderator For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 07:39:41 -0500 From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Message-ID: <001601d15511$f764abf0$e62e03d0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It is when a message is returned for whatever reason as it was not able to be delivered. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 6:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications what is bouncing? -----Original Message----- From: REGilman Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 5:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Hi, It may never happen. But if it does and you don't follow the directions in the e mail Mailman will eventually remove the bouncing e mail account. Thanks, Bob -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of petras Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications When will this happen? What happens if you dont follow the instructions? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date sent: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:32:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications I set this server to take care of that kind of thing on its' own. You folks have to follow the directions in the message you receive in order to reactivate your accounts. Mailman is tuff to setup at first but after that it's a well oiled machine. People have asked me for help with Mailman. Now I do a lot for free but Mailman is not one of those things that fall in that category. -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Hudson Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Bouncing Notifications Hi Bob, I've occasionally had this happen I'm in the mailman list that I am on and myself and the owners have had to constantly reenable a bunch of accounts when this happens. We had to do this, because they weren't receiving the notification. And particular, the groups that Alan Robbins runs is where I've had to do this. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com<mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 FaceTime/iMessage jhud7...@yahoo.com<mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:40 PM, REGilman <regil...@metrocast.net<mailto:regil...@metrocast.net>> wrote: Hi All, Please be sure to follow the directions if you get an e mail saying that you are bouncing. There currently seems to be a problem with Road Runner addresses. But others may also be affected in the very near future. So just be sure to do as the e mail instructs and you will be back to normal. Thanks, Bob Gilman Moderator For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 28 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:38:30 +1100 From: Dialup@56k <dialup...@bigpond.com> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. Message-ID: <56a1a436.8080...@bigpond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed My take on this is that it isn't JAWS loosing focus rather than something else on your PC randomly 'taking over'. Notification pop-ups from anti virii or similar scheduled software would be prime suspects. Glen *** On Fri-22-Jan-16 2:33 pm, Bonnie Lucas wrote: > Hello, > I have a new Windows 10 computer and I am using jaws 17. It seems to have been losing focus fairly often all along, but now it is so bad, I could not even think about writing this email on my computer. Hence, I am using my phone. Anyway, if someone has any ideas, please let me know. It is a small Lenovo laptop and it has become unbearable. > Thanks for any help! > > Sent from my iPhone > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > ------------------------------ Message: 29 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:08:58 -0500 From: "Bissett, Tom" <tom.biss...@bmo.com> To: "jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Message-ID: <b02c7a20ea09ea4d985fc85b44ea077d6ddc5fc...@bmfgexcmbx16.adroot.bmogc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There is a Mcafee removal tool to totally remove Mcafee. I think you can get it from their site. otherwise a regular uninstall does leave a bunch of junk behind. Tom Bisset -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee I thought I removed it entirely, but in windows explorer, this is a windows 7 box, I can't remember the name of it, but there is a mcafee volt that I have no idea how to remove. Thoughts? -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee I removed it from my brother in laws pc. I had no issues. Ed -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:00 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Is there any problems removing MacAfee anti virus software. I know a few years ago I could not remove Norton from my daughter's computer. even their removal tool did not work. The lap top came with a 30 day free MacAfee antivirus. For vipre I had purchased a 2 year 2 computer package. For $29 I can add the 3rd computer. I still have 13 months on that contract. --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 30 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 06:38:48 -0800 From: Kimsan <kimsans...@outlook.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Message-ID: <col402-eas2292b10008572ea6fb84360da...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Why does everyone have a tool now adays, and the standard add/remove is not potent enough to get the job done lol. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee There is a Mcafee removal tool to totally remove Mcafee. I think you can get it from their site. otherwise a regular uninstall does leave a bunch of junk behind. Tom Bisset -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee I thought I removed it entirely, but in windows explorer, this is a windows 7 box, I can't remember the name of it, but there is a mcafee volt that I have no idea how to remove. Thoughts? -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee I removed it from my brother in laws pc. I had no issues. Ed -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:00 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Is there any problems removing MacAfee anti virus software. I know a few years ago I could not remove Norton from my daughter's computer. even their removal tool did not work. The lap top came with a 30 day free MacAfee antivirus. For vipre I had purchased a 2 year 2 computer package. For $29 I can add the 3rd computer. I still have 13 months on that contract. --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 31 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:43:00 -0500 From: "Bissett, Tom" <tom.biss...@bmo.com> To: "jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Message-ID: <b02c7a20ea09ea4d985fc85b44ea077d6ddc5fc...@bmfgexcmbx16.adroot.bmogc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Why would any one want to uninstall my program, the best thing that has ever been written. Probably because no one wants to pay the developers to fully code an uninstall. Regards Tom Bisset -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Why does everyone have a tool now adays, and the standard add/remove is not potent enough to get the job done lol. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee There is a Mcafee removal tool to totally remove Mcafee. I think you can get it from their site. otherwise a regular uninstall does leave a bunch of junk behind. Tom Bisset -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee I thought I removed it entirely, but in windows explorer, this is a windows 7 box, I can't remember the name of it, but there is a mcafee volt that I have no idea how to remove. Thoughts? -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Pinky Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee I removed it from my brother in laws pc. I had no issues. Ed -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:00 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Is there any problems removing MacAfee anti virus software. I know a few years ago I could not remove Norton from my daughter's computer. even their removal tool did not work. The lap top came with a 30 day free MacAfee antivirus. For vipre I had purchased a 2 year 2 computer package. For $29 I can add the 3rd computer. I still have 13 months on that contract. --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 32 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:49:17 -0500 From: Mario <mrb...@hotmail.com> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Message-ID: <blu436-smtp1428440b5283134c03407c786...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed many mainstream protection solutions have a built in "self protection" mechanism to prevent malicious uninstall, thus rendering the user/subscriber "unknowingly unprotected. now, back to the list, as this question is off topic. On 1/22/2016 9:38 AM, Kimsan wrote: > Why does everyone have a tool now adays, and the standard add/remove is not > potent enough to get the job done lol. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Bissett, Tom > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:09 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > There is a Mcafee removal tool to totally remove Mcafee. I think you can > get it from their site. otherwise a regular uninstall does leave a bunch of > junk behind. > Tom Bisset > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Kimsan > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:57 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > I thought I removed it entirely, but in windows explorer, this is a windows > 7 box, I can't remember the name of it, but there is a mcafee volt that I > have no idea how to remove. Thoughts? > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Pinky > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:28 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > I removed it from my brother in laws pc. I had no issues. > Ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Lenny McHugh > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:00 PM > To: JFW List > Subject: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > Is there any problems removing MacAfee anti virus software. I know a few > years ago I could not remove Norton from my daughter's computer. even their > removal tool did not work. > The lap top came with a 30 day free MacAfee antivirus. For vipre I had > purchased a 2 year 2 computer package. For $29 I can add the 3rd computer. I > still have 13 months on that contract. > > > --- > > Please visit my web page > > It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor > > There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind > > http://www.LennyMcHugh.com > > International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R For answers to > frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > ------------------------------ Message: 33 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 07:58:08 -0800 From: "Don Queen" <que...@pacbell.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. Message-ID: <001301d1552d$b0341e70$109c5b50$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I had the same problem but no touch pad. Microsoft Help had me turn of the wireless mouse. f -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ford Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 7:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. Hi Bonnie, Is the touch pad on? That will for sure cause these strange jumps if you are grazing the touch pad. I keep mine turned off just for this reason. Tim Ford -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie Lucas Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 7:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. Hello, I have a new Windows 10 computer and I am using jaws 17. It seems to have been losing focus fairly often all along, but now it is so bad, I could not even think about writing this email on my computer. Hence, I am using my phone. Anyway, if someone has any ideas, please let me know. It is a small Lenovo laptop and it has become unbearable. Thanks for any help! Sent from my iPhone For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 34 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:36:00 -0500 From: "jim" <buckeye...@wowway.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 Message-ID: <6DF35D930D774A5B975AAB4F1C4FCCB0@JimPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Thanks David, Nice work, I have already learned a few new keystrokes myself. Keep up the good work. Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -----Original Message----- From: David Bailes Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:47 AM To: Jaws Users Subject: [JAWS-Users] A guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10 I've written a guide to the Taskbar on Windows 10. It covers the Start menu, search, Cortana, the taskbar buttons, the notification area, and notifications. It's available here: http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Taskbar-10-Guide.html Any feedback is welcome, David. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 35 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 08:55:52 -0800 From: Kimsan <kimsans...@outlook.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Message-ID: <col402-eas404b2898b34df8140273e39da...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hmmm, so how can I remove all traces of mcafee. I've done the add/remove, and revo uninstaller, but I'm still seeing that thing I mentioned that is in windows explorer. So which tool could I use. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:49 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee many mainstream protection solutions have a built in "self protection" mechanism to prevent malicious uninstall, thus rendering the user/subscriber "unknowingly unprotected. now, back to the list, as this question is off topic. On 1/22/2016 9:38 AM, Kimsan wrote: > Why does everyone have a tool now adays, and the standard add/remove > is not potent enough to get the job done lol. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:09 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > There is a Mcafee removal tool to totally remove Mcafee. I think you > can get it from their site. otherwise a regular uninstall does leave > a bunch of junk behind. > Tom Bisset > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Kimsan > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:57 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > I thought I removed it entirely, but in windows explorer, this is a > windows > 7 box, I can't remember the name of it, but there is a mcafee volt > that I have no idea how to remove. Thoughts? > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Pinky > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:28 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > I removed it from my brother in laws pc. I had no issues. > Ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:00 PM > To: JFW List > Subject: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > Is there any problems removing MacAfee anti virus software. I know a > few years ago I could not remove Norton from my daughter's computer. > even their removal tool did not work. > The lap top came with a 30 day free MacAfee antivirus. For vipre I had > purchased a 2 year 2 computer package. For $29 I can add the 3rd > computer. I still have 13 months on that contract. > > > --- > > Please visit my web page > > It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor > > There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind > > http://www.LennyMcHugh.com > > International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R For answers to > frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 36 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:57:52 -0500 From: "jim" <buckeye...@wowway.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. Message-ID: <8B971C3CAC5440C4B253F8D40CD5501B@JimPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response In my opinion, it's Jaws 17 being used on a w-10 computer. Jaws 16, latest release works much smoother in w-10. I am not just saying this, I have done many different test of Jaws 16 and with Jaws 17, using different programs and using different web sites. I have went back to using the latest Jaws 16 on my w-10 computer. I still use Jaws 17 for testing purposes. Just my two cents worth. Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Dialup@56k Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 10:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. My take on this is that it isn't JAWS loosing focus rather than something else on your PC randomly 'taking over'. Notification pop-ups from anti virii or similar scheduled software would be prime suspects. Glen *** On Fri-22-Jan-16 2:33 pm, Bonnie Lucas wrote: > Hello, > I have a new Windows 10 computer and I am using jaws 17. It seems to have > been losing focus fairly often all along, but now it is so bad, I could > not even think about writing this email on my computer. Hence, I am using > my phone. Anyway, if someone has any ideas, please let me know. It is a > small Lenovo laptop and it has become unbearable. > Thanks for any help! > > Sent from my iPhone > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 37 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:00:47 -0500 From: "jim" <buckeye...@wowway.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. Message-ID: <6ABB7B7338414DF399EC0A30F24C28B4@JimPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Yes, try the latest version of Jaws 16. See if you notice a big difference. If not, it is a customizing setting somewhere. Good luck... Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching His goal. Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good health. Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually balanced with wealth. Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where God sits. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie Lucas Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 10:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. Hello, I have a new Windows 10 computer and I am using jaws 17. It seems to have been losing focus fairly often all along, but now it is so bad, I could not even think about writing this email on my computer. Hence, I am using my phone. Anyway, if someone has any ideas, please let me know. It is a small Lenovo laptop and it has become unbearable. Thanks for any help! Sent from my iPhone For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 38 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:01:59 -0800 From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <andrew.bara...@va.gov> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: removing MacAfee Message-ID: <ee84aa38e4fcdd42ae64e566b9247b9a14fa0...@vhav22msga1.v22.med.va.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You need to download their removal tool from their web site. Andy -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Hmmm, so how can I remove all traces of mcafee. I've done the add/remove, and revo uninstaller, but I'm still seeing that thing I mentioned that is in windows explorer. So which tool could I use. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:49 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee many mainstream protection solutions have a built in "self protection" mechanism to prevent malicious uninstall, thus rendering the user/subscriber "unknowingly unprotected. now, back to the list, as this question is off topic. On 1/22/2016 9:38 AM, Kimsan wrote: > Why does everyone have a tool now adays, and the standard add/remove > is not potent enough to get the job done lol. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:09 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > There is a Mcafee removal tool to totally remove Mcafee. I think you > can get it from their site. otherwise a regular uninstall does leave > a bunch of junk behind. > Tom Bisset > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Kimsan > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:57 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > I thought I removed it entirely, but in windows explorer, this is a > windows > 7 box, I can't remember the name of it, but there is a mcafee volt > that I have no idea how to remove. Thoughts? > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Pinky > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:28 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > I removed it from my brother in laws pc. I had no issues. > Ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:00 PM > To: JFW List > Subject: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > Is there any problems removing MacAfee anti virus software. I know a > few years ago I could not remove Norton from my daughter's computer. > even their removal tool did not work. > The lap top came with a 30 day free MacAfee antivirus. For vipre I had > purchased a 2 year 2 computer package. For $29 I can add the 3rd > computer. I still have 13 months on that contract. > > > --- > > Please visit my web page > > It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor > > There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind > > http://www.LennyMcHugh.com > > International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R For answers to > frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 39 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:16:26 -0800 From: Kimsan <kimsans...@outlook.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: removing MacAfee Message-ID: <col402-eas86a128014fae29f484d935da...@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Lol! There's a thought. I would've never thought about looking there. I blame the one cup of coffee today... -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:02 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: removing MacAfee You need to download their removal tool from their web site. Andy -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee Hmmm, so how can I remove all traces of mcafee. I've done the add/remove, and revo uninstaller, but I'm still seeing that thing I mentioned that is in windows explorer. So which tool could I use. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:49 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee many mainstream protection solutions have a built in "self protection" mechanism to prevent malicious uninstall, thus rendering the user/subscriber "unknowingly unprotected. now, back to the list, as this question is off topic. On 1/22/2016 9:38 AM, Kimsan wrote: > Why does everyone have a tool now adays, and the standard add/remove > is not potent enough to get the job done lol. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:09 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > There is a Mcafee removal tool to totally remove Mcafee. I think you > can get it from their site. otherwise a regular uninstall does leave > a bunch of junk behind. > Tom Bisset > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Kimsan > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:57 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > I thought I removed it entirely, but in windows explorer, this is a > windows > 7 box, I can't remember the name of it, but there is a mcafee volt > that I have no idea how to remove. Thoughts? > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Pinky > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:28 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > I removed it from my brother in laws pc. I had no issues. > Ed > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:00 PM > To: JFW List > Subject: [JAWS-Users] removing MacAfee > > Is there any problems removing MacAfee anti virus software. I know a > few years ago I could not remove Norton from my daughter's computer. > even their removal tool did not work. > The lap top came with a 30 day free MacAfee antivirus. For vipre I had > purchased a 2 year 2 computer package. For $29 I can add the 3rd > computer. I still have 13 months on that contract. > > > --- > > Please visit my web page > > It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor > > There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind > > http://www.LennyMcHugh.com > > International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R For answers to > frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Message: 40 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:00:54 -0500 From: Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. Message-ID: <CAC+YXVJwJbuTg=tjtw_i44nrkojkwnurufmbdggrdndomck...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I had to turn the touchpad off on my Lenovo because I kept inadvertently touching it. I'm using windows 7 so can't tell you how to do it under windows 10, but google should be able to turn something up. Kimber On 1/22/16, Don Queen <que...@pacbell.net> wrote: > I had the same problem but no touch pad. Microsoft Help had me turn of the > wireless mouse. f > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Tim Ford > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 7:42 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. > > Hi Bonnie, > > Is the touch pad on? That will for sure cause these strange jumps if you > are grazing the touch pad. I keep mine turned off just for this reason. > > Tim Ford > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bonnie Lucas > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 7:33 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws continually losing focus. > > Hello, > I have a new Windows 10 computer and I am using jaws 17. It seems to have > been losing focus fairly often all along, but now it is so bad, I could not > even think about writing this email on my computer. Hence, I am using my > phone. Anyway, if someone has any ideas, please let me know. It is a small > Lenovo laptop and it has become unbearable. > Thanks for any help! > > Sent from my iPhone > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > -- Kimberly ------------------------------ Message: 41 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:23:08 -0500 From: "Jim Ronald" <jtmaron...@rogers.com> To: "Jaws-Users" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] My Documents Message-ID: <000001d1554a$54aefcb0$fe0cf610$@rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is there a way to direct all my files created in Micro Soft programs automatically into My Documents? Jaws 15.0, Windows 7 and Micro Soft 2010. Thanks! Jim. ------------------------------ Message: 42 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:33:04 -0800 From: "T. Civitello" <tciv...@comcast.net> To: "Jaws users list" <JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Macafee removal tool Message-ID: <19DC33A69C764CA9B9A1BDD61710160C@TomPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/mcafee-consumer-products-removal-to ol/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------ Message: 43 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 11:40:22 -0800 From: "T. Civitello" <tciv...@comcast.net> To: "Jaws users list" <JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Macafee removal tool Message-ID: <592FF5F69FE54C02AB010E0DE49AEAB8@TomPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Note, I saw this about the Macafee removal tool: after downloadind the tool, choose ?run? and don?t save it. Tom --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------ Message: 44 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:54:59 -0500 From: "Neil Towery " <neiltow...@sc.rr.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Cannot get MS updates to download and install Message-ID: <000f01d1554e$c65f27f0$531d77d0$@sc.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Gang: Using Windows 7 and JAWS 16. Have been trying to download and install MS updates, other than Windows 10. When I check all the boxes and tab to the OK button, The percentage never gets off zero. And, I never see the download or install button. The only other thing I see is the get started button, which will install Windows 10. I don't want Windows 10 on this computer right now How do I download and install those other updates? Getting frustrated. Thanks. Neil ------------------------------ Message: 45 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:00:28 -0800 From: "Mike B" <mb69ma...@charter.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Want to leave the unread left on emails Message-ID: <00b101d1554f$8b658a80$6f01a8c0@MikePC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Kurt, Let me 1st preface by saying I don't use Outlook 2010, but here's a note I've saved for future reference regarding this topic: From: Tom Behler Hello, everyone. I don't know how useful this will be to the list as a whole, but thought I would share it on the list in hopes that it will be of use to someone other than myself. For the past few months, I have been struggling with a problem in Outlook 2010, where unread items don't stay marked as unread as I scroll up and down my inbox message list. It turns out that this problem can be addressed by changing a setting in the program, and here's how it's done. Directions for keeping emails as UNREAD in Outlook 2010: Go to the View Tab In the layout menu click on Reading Pane Choose Options from the drop-down menu Uncheck "Mark items as read when selection changes" Hit OK Tom Behler from Michigan From: David Hello there; I just want to point out, The instructions you gave are absolutely correct, However, If folks have the reading pane set to off, The options button is unavailable. So, you would need to change the reading pane, to right, bottom, Then make the change in the reading pane/options. David Take care. Mike Global warming? Most likely caused from hot air generated by politicians! ----- Original Message ----- From: Kurt Miller To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 9:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Want to leave the unread left on emails Hi all, I just got my email set up to outlook 2010 and would like to have the unread message left on the emails that I have not read yet. Now when I pass over 1, the unread message goes away. I changed this on my old system but that has been a couple years ago and do not remember how to change it. All help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Kurt After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ JAWS-Users-List mailing list JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com http://jaws-users.com/mailman/listinfo/jaws-users-list_jaws-users.com ------------------------------ End of JAWS-Users-List Digest, Vol 381, Issue 3 *********************************************** For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
