Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
No thanks on the offer, I haven't seen a punch card for over 20 years. I'm sure we could talk about days gone by for sure. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently
Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
Wow. Gerald or David, did either of you get to use JAWS for DOS? I've always wondered how JFW worked on machines before Windows came out. On May 22, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http
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JAWS for DOS was great. Having started with the IBM screen reader, I was really pleased with the feedback JAWS gave. For months I used a demo version of JAWS, even for midnight fixes of our main frame system, because it was so much better than anything else around. At 09:51 AM 5/22/2011, you wrote: Wow. Gerald or David, did either of you get to use JAWS for DOS? I've always wondered how JFW worked on machines before Windows came out. On May 22, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What
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How long did the demo run back then? On May 22, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Ann Byrne wrote: JAWS for DOS was great. Having started with the IBM screen reader, I was really pleased with the feedback JAWS gave. For months I used a demo version of JAWS, even for midnight fixes of our main frame system, because it was so much better than anything else around. At 09:51 AM 5/22/2011, you wrote: Wow. Gerald or David, did either of you get to use JAWS for DOS? I've always wondered how JFW worked on machines before Windows came out. On May 22, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36
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300 strokes, or 3000 keystrokes--something like that. Not a specific time. I was programming IBM Assembly, so I kept it really tight. (lol) At 10:32 AM 5/22/2011, you wrote: How long did the demo run back then? On May 22, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Ann Byrne wrote: JAWS for DOS was great. Having started with the IBM screen reader, I was really pleased with the feedback JAWS gave. For months I used a demo version of JAWS, even for midnight fixes of our main frame system, because it was so much better than anything else around. At 09:51 AM 5/22/2011, you wrote: Wow. Gerald or David, did either of you get to use JAWS for DOS? I've always wondered how JFW worked on machines before Windows came out. On May 22, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list
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Actually, I have only been using JAWS for a little over 3 years. After my vision went downhill and I was forced to go on disability, I lost interest in computing for about 20 years, so I was never a JAWS pioneer. I only go back as far as JAWS 8. Gerald - Original Message - From: Jorge Paez computertechjorgep...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Wow. Gerald or David, did either of you get to use JAWS for DOS? I've always wondered how JFW worked on machines before Windows came out. On May 22, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick
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Interesting. I started with JFW 5, then moved to 7.5 later and now I'm coming back with JFW12. On May 22, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Actually, I have only been using JAWS for a little over 3 years. After my vision went downhill and I was forced to go on disability, I lost interest in computing for about 20 years, so I was never a JAWS pioneer. I only go back as far as JAWS 8. Gerald - Original Message - From: Jorge Paez computertechjorgep...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Wow. Gerald or David, did either of you get to use JAWS for DOS? I've always wondered how JFW worked on machines before Windows came out. On May 22, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From
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I started with JFW 3.20, which makes me feel old. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22 May 2011 17:33 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Interesting. I started with JFW 5, then moved to 7.5 later and now I'm coming back with JFW12. On May 22, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Actually, I have only been using JAWS for a little over 3 years. After my vision went downhill and I was forced to go on disability, I lost interest in computing for about 20 years, so I was never a JAWS pioneer. I only go back as far as JAWS 8. Gerald - Original Message - From: Jorge Paez computertechjorgep...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Wow. Gerald or David, did either of you get to use JAWS for DOS? I've always wondered how JFW worked on machines before Windows came out. On May 22, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out
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Nice. You remember JFW 5? On May 22, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Alex Stone wrote: I started with JFW 3.20, which makes me feel old. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22 May 2011 17:33 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Interesting. I started with JFW 5, then moved to 7.5 later and now I'm coming back with JFW12. On May 22, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Actually, I have only been using JAWS for a little over 3 years. After my vision went downhill and I was forced to go on disability, I lost interest in computing for about 20 years, so I was never a JAWS pioneer. I only go back as far as JAWS 8. Gerald - Original Message - From: Jorge Paez computertechjorgep...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Wow. Gerald or David, did either of you get to use JAWS for DOS? I've always wondered how JFW worked on machines before Windows came out. On May 22, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote
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Hi, I started with a russian version of JFW 3.0, then, went to 3.7U, then, 4.0, 4.02, then to russian 4.5, Russian 4.51, then English 5.0, Hebrew 6.10, and now I'm with JFW 12. I fiell very old here. Regards, Adi. - Original Message - From: Alex Stone alex.st...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I started with JFW 3.20, which makes me feel old. Cheers Alex -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22 May 2011 17:33 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Interesting. I started with JFW 5, then moved to 7.5 later and now I'm coming back with JFW12. On May 22, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Actually, I have only been using JAWS for a little over 3 years. After my vision went downhill and I was forced to go on disability, I lost interest in computing for about 20 years, so I was never a JAWS pioneer. I only go back as far as JAWS 8. Gerald - Original Message - From: Jorge Paez computertechjorgep...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Wow. Gerald or David, did either of you get to use JAWS for DOS? I've always wondered how JFW worked on machines before Windows came out. On May 22, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have
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I never have myself although I do have a copy of it since they put it up for free some years ago. Oh well we're wondering. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: Jorge Paez computertechjorgep...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Wow. Gerald or David, did either of you get to use JAWS for DOS? I've always wondered how JFW worked on machines before Windows came out. On May 22, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Gerald Levy wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing
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A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Like suggested join the blind programing list. You need to know what type of program you want to write to determine the type of language to use. There are a lot like c#, c++, java, python, pearl, ruby and that is just a few. Most of it is done in a editor like note pad or with a ide. At 06:35 PM 5/20/2011, you wrote: Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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OK thanks. Any good tutorials on either language for the blind? I tried watching a iTunes U course but it didn't exactly help. On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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For Python: http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Python_en:Table_of_Contents I've heard that this wiki book is supposed to be good but I haven't read it myself. A lot of Python docs are available on the Internet for free and Python also ships with a very good tutorial in standard Windows help format accessible from the start menu when Python is installed. But as I said in a previous message I recommend you to join the blind programming list. A lot of experienced programmers on that list willing to help. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 22:46 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 OK thanks. Any good tutorials on either language for the blind? I tried watching a iTunes U course but it didn't exactly help. On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
OK. Thanks. Can you please link me to that list again? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 6:05 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: For Python: http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Python_en:Table_of_Contents I've heard that this wiki book is supposed to be good but I haven't read it myself. A lot of Python docs are available on the Internet for free and Python also ships with a very good tutorial in standard Windows help format accessible from the start menu when Python is installed. But as I said in a previous message I recommend you to join the blind programming list. A lot of experienced programmers on that list willing to help. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 22:46 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 OK thanks. Any good tutorials on either language for the blind? I tried watching a iTunes U course but it didn't exactly help. On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
Blind programming list: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 00:25 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 OK. Thanks. Can you please link me to that list again? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 6:05 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: For Python: http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Python_en:Table_of_Contents I've heard that this wiki book is supposed to be good but I haven't read it myself. A lot of Python docs are available on the Internet for free and Python also ships with a very good tutorial in standard Windows help format accessible from the start menu when Python is installed. But as I said in a previous message I recommend you to join the blind programming list. A lot of experienced programmers on that list willing to help. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 22:46 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 OK thanks. Any good tutorials on either language for the blind? I tried watching a iTunes U course but it didn't exactly help. On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
Here is a web site that might help you on that question, http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com/ At 04:46 PM 5/21/2011, you wrote: OK thanks. Any good tutorials on either language for the blind? I tried watching a iTunes U course but it didn't exactly help. On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12
Hi all: Just wondering 2 quick things. First, Im interested in programing for the Windows platform. How can I do it? What languages are required and how can I go about learning them in a JAWS-friendly way? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
