Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[Cher Bosch]

No, no ZT installed on this one. The other day after I wrote you and was
checking the problem out further, all the IE pages were already coming up
maximized so I couldn't crash anything! I'll keep an eye on when this is
happening here.

Cher



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 6:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Cher,

Are you running ZoomText by any chance?

I have narrowed this down to appearing to be a ZoomText issue.  If I close
ZoomText, I can maximize or minimize windows in IE 11 without any issues.

Pam



From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Hi Cher,

I have noticed issues with maximizing the window if I am in IE 11 also.  For
me, it takes me to my default home page for IE 11.  Is that what happens to
you when you maximize?

I am running JAWS 18 and ZoomText 11 on Windows 7.

Pam



From: JAWS-Users-List [jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] on behalf of
Cher Bosch [oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

I can download with IE without the problems you mentioned, but if I maximize
the page it closes the program every time!

Cher



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE
support.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


>I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I 
>don't associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my 
>problem was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through 
> saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I 
> left off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and 
> get back on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?
>
>
>
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Cher,

Are you running ZoomText by any chance?

I have narrowed this down to appearing to be a ZoomText issue.  If I close 
ZoomText, I can maximize or minimize windows in IE 11 without any issues.

Pam



From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Hi Cher,

I have noticed issues with maximizing the window if I am in IE 11 also.  For 
me, it takes me to my default home page for IE 11.  Is that what happens to you 
when you maximize?

I am running JAWS 18 and ZoomText 11 on Windows 7.

Pam



From: JAWS-Users-List [jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] on behalf of 
Cher Bosch [oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

I can download with IE without the problems you mentioned, but if I maximize
the page it closes the program every time!

Cher



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE
support.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


>I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't
>associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem
>was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through
> saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left
> off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back
> on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?
>
>
>
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[Cher Bosch]

I think so- at least part of the time. I'll keep your message for a while
and pay better attention. Was so annoyed I almost quit IE entirely.

Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Hi Cher,

I have noticed issues with maximizing the window if I am in IE 11 also.  For
me, it takes me to my default home page for IE 11.  Is that what happens to
you when you maximize?

I am running JAWS 18 and ZoomText 11 on Windows 7.

Pam



From: JAWS-Users-List [jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] on behalf of
Cher Bosch [oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

I can download with IE without the problems you mentioned, but if I maximize
the page it closes the program every time!

Cher



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE
support.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


>I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I 
>don't associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my 
>problem was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through 
> saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I 
> left off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and 
> get back on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?
>
>
>
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi Cher,

I have noticed issues with maximizing the window if I am in IE 11 also.  For 
me, it takes me to my default home page for IE 11.  Is that what happens to you 
when you maximize?

I am running JAWS 18 and ZoomText 11 on Windows 7.

Pam



From: JAWS-Users-List [jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] on behalf of 
Cher Bosch [oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

I can download with IE without the problems you mentioned, but if I maximize
the page it closes the program every time!

Cher



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE
support.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


>I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't
>associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem
>was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through
> saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left
> off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back
> on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?
>
>
>
>


>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[Cher Bosch]

I can download with IE without the problems you mentioned, but if I maximize
the page it closes the program every time!

Cher



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE
support.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


>I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't 
>associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem 
>was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through 
> saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left 
> off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back 
> on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?
>
>
>
>


>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[JM Casey]

Nice. I'm still wit JAWS 18 and don't know when or if I wil upgrade, but
that's very good news.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: February 23, 2018 4:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Hello all!
I wanted you to know that the latest JAWS update for 2018, makes JAWS work
better in Chrome than ever before.
JAWS works great with combo boxes on Chrome now.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE
support.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


>I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't 
>associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem 
>was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through 
> saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left 
> off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back 
> on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?
>
>
>
>


>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[David Moore]

Hello all!
I wanted you to know that the latest JAWS update for 2018, makes JAWS work 
better in Chrome than ever before.
JAWS works great with combo boxes on Chrome now.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE 
support.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


>I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't 
>associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem 
>was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through 
> saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left 
> off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back 
> on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?
>
>
>
> 
>
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> intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[Andy Baracco]

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE 
support.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't 
associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem 
was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)

Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Hi all,

When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through 
saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left 
off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back 
on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?






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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[JM Casey]

Yes, this does happen sometimes, though I don't think I've experienced it
much lately and I don't use IE anymore.

I just have to say: the jaws "find" command is your friend. Probably one of
the most valuable tools to use on a webpage, in fact.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: February 22, 2018 3:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't
associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem
was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Hi all,

When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through saving
it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left off and I
have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back on to the web
page, has anyone come across this before?






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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[Adrian Spratt]

I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't 
associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem was 
treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Hi all,

When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through saving 
it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left off and I 
have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back on to the web 
page, has anyone come across this before?





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[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Hi all,

When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through saving 
it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left off and I 
have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back on to the web 
page, has anyone come across this before?





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[cheez]

Now, that was just wrong, David.  Telling us about those baking cookies and 
you won't share.  LOL

But I must admit.  I really like my cookies raw.  Yum!

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?


I chose many years ago to place that simple signature at the bottom of all 
messages rather than a laundry list of information I've seen on other lists 
which in my opinion cause a wasteful use of bandwidth.


You're welcome and lucky since I am home this afternoon on a Saturday. Oh 
and did I forget to mention about the cookies being baked in the next 
room?


-Original Message- 
From: John R. Vaughn

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

David, Sorry I am so dense.  I saw this at the bottom of messages and now 
I

know it will get me to the download area.
Thanks
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

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-Original Message-
From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

David, could you remind me of the web site address?
Thank you.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

The best thing to do now is to get what they call the extended service
release which I put up for download yesterday.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

That's interesting. When I tried to run FF 57 with JAWS 18, I got a 
message

warning me that my screen-reader would not function properly. This was a
message/alert that came from Firefox itself, and not JAWS. And indeed, 
JAWS

did not really work at all. However, the programme did not crash.

Whatever the case though, I'd still be curious to know why it is that 
there

isn't even rudimentary support for FS Quantum in JAWS. It would seem that
even with NVDA 17.3, the version I have as I still haven't installed the
update, the change in Firefox was somewhat anticipated, and attempts were
made to support it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: December 15, 2017 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Actually, on my system Firefox 57 works fine with NVDA, but Firefox 
crashes

when i try to run it with JAWS 2018.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?



Hey.

While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's
entirely just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is
unimportant. In fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now,
with even the previous (IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's
not perfect, but they have promised that v58 will be better, and I see
no reason to doubt them on that.
In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will
continue to be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of
your choice. I don't exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this
matter of Firefox 57/Quantum, , but I've yet to hear from anyone using
JAWS 2018 and maybe it works better there? I have JAWS 18, and part of
the reason I've been switching more and more to NVDA lately is that
I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS upgrade at this time.
Still going to hang on to both though.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang
issue with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very
well and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good
for Goo

Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[David Ferrin]

I chose many years ago to place that simple signature at the bottom of all 
messages rather than a laundry list of information I've seen on other lists 
which in my opinion cause a wasteful use of bandwidth.


You're welcome and lucky since I am home this afternoon on a Saturday. Oh 
and did I forget to mention about the cookies being baked in the next room?


-Original Message- 
From: John R. Vaughn

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

David, Sorry I am so dense.  I saw this at the bottom of messages and now I
know it will get me to the download area.
Thanks
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

-Original Message-
From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

David, could you remind me of the web site address?
Thank you.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

The best thing to do now is to get what they call the extended service
release which I put up for download yesterday.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

That's interesting. When I tried to run FF 57 with JAWS 18, I got a message
warning me that my screen-reader would not function properly. This was a
message/alert that came from Firefox itself, and not JAWS. And indeed, JAWS
did not really work at all. However, the programme did not crash.

Whatever the case though, I'd still be curious to know why it is that there
isn't even rudimentary support for FS Quantum in JAWS. It would seem that
even with NVDA 17.3, the version I have as I still haven't installed the
update, the change in Firefox was somewhat anticipated, and attempts were
made to support it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: December 15, 2017 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Actually, on my system Firefox 57 works fine with NVDA, but Firefox crashes
when i try to run it with JAWS 2018.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?



Hey.

While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's
entirely just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is
unimportant. In fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now,
with even the previous (IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's
not perfect, but they have promised that v58 will be better, and I see
no reason to doubt them on that.
In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will
continue to be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of
your choice. I don't exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this
matter of Firefox 57/Quantum, , but I've yet to hear from anyone using
JAWS 2018 and maybe it works better there? I have JAWS 18, and part of
the reason I've been switching more and more to NVDA lately is that
I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS upgrade at this time.
Still going to hang on to both though.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang
issue with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very
well and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good
for Google not so good for us...
On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,



Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing
the hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due
to the way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the
developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an
uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavi

Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[John R. Vaughn]

David, Sorry I am so dense.  I saw this at the bottom of messages and now I
know it will get me to the download area.
Thanks
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 4:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

-Original Message-
From: John R. Vaughn
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws? 

David, could you remind me of the web site address?
Thank you.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

The best thing to do now is to get what they call the extended service
release which I put up for download yesterday.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

That's interesting. When I tried to run FF 57 with JAWS 18, I got a message
warning me that my screen-reader would not function properly. This was a
message/alert that came from Firefox itself, and not JAWS. And indeed, JAWS
did not really work at all. However, the programme did not crash.

Whatever the case though, I'd still be curious to know why it is that there
isn't even rudimentary support for FS Quantum in JAWS. It would seem that
even with NVDA 17.3, the version I have as I still haven't installed the
update, the change in Firefox was somewhat anticipated, and attempts were
made to support it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: December 15, 2017 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Actually, on my system Firefox 57 works fine with NVDA, but Firefox crashes
when i try to run it with JAWS 2018.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?


> Hey.
>
> While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's 
> entirely just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is 
> unimportant. In fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now, 
> with even the previous (IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's 
> not perfect, but they have promised that v58 will be better, and I see 
> no reason to doubt them on that.
> In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will 
> continue to be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of 
> your choice. I don't exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this 
> matter of Firefox 57/Quantum, , but I've yet to hear from anyone using 
> JAWS 2018 and maybe it works better there? I have JAWS 18, and part of 
> the reason I've been switching more and more to NVDA lately is that 
> I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS upgrade at this time.
> Still going to hang on to both though.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
> Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep 
> supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang 
> issue with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
> I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind 
> accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very 
> well and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good 
> for Google not so good for us...
> On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
>> Hello again,
>>
>>
>>
>> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing 
>> the hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due 
>> to the way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
>> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
>> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
>> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
>> it
> better?"
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the input.
>>
>>
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>>
>> For answ

Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[David Ferrin]

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

-Original Message- 
From: John R. Vaughn 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:20 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws? 


David, could you remind me of the web site address?
Thank you.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

The best thing to do now is to get what they call the extended service
release which I put up for download yesterday.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

That's interesting. When I tried to run FF 57 with JAWS 18, I got a message
warning me that my screen-reader would not function properly. This was a
message/alert that came from Firefox itself, and not JAWS. And indeed, JAWS
did not really work at all. However, the programme did not crash.

Whatever the case though, I'd still be curious to know why it is that there
isn't even rudimentary support for FS Quantum in JAWS. It would seem that
even with NVDA 17.3, the version I have as I still haven't installed the
update, the change in Firefox was somewhat anticipated, and attempts were
made to support it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: December 15, 2017 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Actually, on my system Firefox 57 works fine with NVDA, but Firefox crashes
when i try to run it with JAWS 2018.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?



Hey.

While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's 
entirely just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is 
unimportant. In fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now, 
with even the previous (IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's 
not perfect, but they have promised that v58 will be better, and I see 
no reason to doubt them on that.
In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will 
continue to be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of 
your choice. I don't exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this 
matter of Firefox 57/Quantum, , but I've yet to hear from anyone using 
JAWS 2018 and maybe it works better there? I have JAWS 18, and part of 
the reason I've been switching more and more to NVDA lately is that 
I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS upgrade at this time. 
Still going to hang on to both though.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On Behalf Of Randy Barnett

Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep 
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang 
issue with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind 
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very 
well and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good 
for Google not so good for us...

On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,



Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing 
the hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due 
to the way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
it

better?"




Thanks in advance for the input.



Judy



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--
Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
Soundtique
Grants Pass, Oregon.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[John R. Vaughn]

David, could you remind me of the web site address?
Thank you.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

The best thing to do now is to get what they call the extended service
release which I put up for download yesterday.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

That's interesting. When I tried to run FF 57 with JAWS 18, I got a message
warning me that my screen-reader would not function properly. This was a
message/alert that came from Firefox itself, and not JAWS. And indeed, JAWS
did not really work at all. However, the programme did not crash.

Whatever the case though, I'd still be curious to know why it is that there
isn't even rudimentary support for FS Quantum in JAWS. It would seem that
even with NVDA 17.3, the version I have as I still haven't installed the
update, the change in Firefox was somewhat anticipated, and attempts were
made to support it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: December 15, 2017 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Actually, on my system Firefox 57 works fine with NVDA, but Firefox crashes
when i try to run it with JAWS 2018.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?


> Hey.
>
> While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's 
> entirely just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is 
> unimportant. In fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now, 
> with even the previous (IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's 
> not perfect, but they have promised that v58 will be better, and I see 
> no reason to doubt them on that.
> In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will 
> continue to be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of 
> your choice. I don't exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this 
> matter of Firefox 57/Quantum, , but I've yet to hear from anyone using 
> JAWS 2018 and maybe it works better there? I have JAWS 18, and part of 
> the reason I've been switching more and more to NVDA lately is that 
> I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS upgrade at this time. 
> Still going to hang on to both though.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
> Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep 
> supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang 
> issue with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
> I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind 
> accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very 
> well and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good 
> for Google not so good for us...
> On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
>> Hello again,
>>
>>
>>
>> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing 
>> the hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due 
>> to the way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
>> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
>> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
>> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
>> it
> better?"
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the input.
>>
>>
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> --
> Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
> Soundtique
> Grants Pass, Oregon.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Jason White]

This is also what VFO advised users to do in their announcement on the
subject. I installed the ESR version of Firefox and it worked well in the
handful of cases in which I've used it since then.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

The best thing to do now is to get what they call the extended service
release which I put up for download yesterday.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

That's interesting. When I tried to run FF 57 with JAWS 18, I got a message
warning me that my screen-reader would not function properly. This was a
message/alert that came from Firefox itself, and not JAWS. And indeed, JAWS
did not really work at all. However, the programme did not crash.

Whatever the case though, I'd still be curious to know why it is that there
isn't even rudimentary support for FS Quantum in JAWS. It would seem that
even with NVDA 17.3, the version I have as I still haven't installed the
update, the change in Firefox was somewhat anticipated, and attempts were
made to support it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: December 15, 2017 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Actually, on my system Firefox 57 works fine with NVDA, but Firefox crashes
when i try to run it with JAWS 2018.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?


> Hey.
>
> While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's 
> entirely just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is 
> unimportant. In fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now, 
> with even the previous (IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's 
> not perfect, but they have promised that v58 will be better, and I see 
> no reason to doubt them on that.
> In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will 
> continue to be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of 
> your choice. I don't exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this 
> matter of Firefox 57/Quantum, , but I've yet to hear from anyone using 
> JAWS 2018 and maybe it works better there? I have JAWS 18, and part of 
> the reason I've been switching more and more to NVDA lately is that 
> I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS upgrade at this time. 
> Still going to hang on to both though.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
> Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep 
> supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang 
> issue with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
> I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind 
> accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very 
> well and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good 
> for Google not so good for us...
> On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
>> Hello again,
>>
>>
>>
>> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing 
>> the hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due 
>> to the way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
>> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
>> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
>> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
>> it
> better?"
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the input.
>>
>>
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> --
> Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
> Soundtique
> Grants Pass, Oregon.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[David Ferrin]

The best thing to do now is to get what they call the extended service 
release which I put up for download yesterday.


-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

That's interesting. When I tried to run FF 57 with JAWS 18, I got a message
warning me that my screen-reader would not function properly. This was a
message/alert that came from Firefox itself, and not JAWS. And indeed, JAWS
did not really work at all. However, the programme did not crash.

Whatever the case though, I'd still be curious to know why it is that there
isn't even rudimentary support for FS Quantum in JAWS. It would seem that
even with NVDA 17.3, the version I have as I still haven't installed the
update, the change in Firefox was somewhat anticipated, and attempts were
made to support it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: December 15, 2017 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Actually, on my system Firefox 57 works fine with NVDA, but Firefox crashes
when i try to run it with JAWS 2018.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?



Hey.

While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's entirely
just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is unimportant. In
fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now, with even the previous
(IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's not perfect, but they have
promised that v58 will be better, and I see no reason to doubt them on
that.
In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will continue to
be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of your choice. I
don't
exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this matter of Firefox
57/Quantum,
, but I've yet to hear from anyone using JAWS 2018 and maybe it works
better
there? I have JAWS 18, and part of the reason I've been switching more and
more to NVDA lately is that I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS
upgrade at this time. Still going to hang on to both though.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang
issue
with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for
Google
not so good for us...
On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,



Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the
way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the
developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an
uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the
last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it

better?"




Thanks in advance for the input.



Judy



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Soundtique
Grants Pass, Oregon.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[David Ferrin]

David, I have your tutorials up on the server. Both of them in text format 
and if memory serves you did an audio on Chrome a while back.


-Original Message- 
From: Judy Jones

Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

I would be very interested in your tutorial.  I've been exploring Google
Chrome on my own and with help from all of you.

Thanks.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hi!
I have the same results. If you really need to use IE 11, you can use an
earlier version of JAWS. I use Google Chrome with JAWS 2018, and Windows 10,
and it works like a charm as well.
However, when I get my old computer out that has Windows 7 and JAWS 15, IE
does work like a charm.
If any of you would like my Google Chrome Browser tutorial, I can paste it
into a message and put it on here.
Even Edge works better with JAWS 2018 better than IE 11.
As we know, to use Firefox, version 57 does not work with JAWS hardly at
all.
Take care, guys!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 1:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

If memory serves, Jaws 14 was fine, and was using Windows 7 at the time.
Everything running smoothly, as I recall.

Judy




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of my mail
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

   I like a lot of people have been having trouble With IE and
Jaws. This evening I fired up an old HP PC that I picked up for $100 a while
back. It  had a fresh install of the latest Windows 7, IE 11 and Jaws
version 15. It works like a charm  on the Internet, no crashing like my Dell
PC with the same configuration except for Jaws witch is Jaws 2018. I will
have to use it for a while but it looks to me like the problem I have been
having is Jaws 2018.  Tom

--
From: "Nathaniel Kile" <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:45 PM
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?


What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being
fully supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web
components that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with
when using such as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not
to mention the security gaps that are within IE.
IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses
it, the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as
JAWS, sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to
date with the latest changes that are much more relevant.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction
for schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC,
Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,



Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the
way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the
developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an
uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the
last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make
it better?"



Thanks in advance for the input.



Judy



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

I'm going to try that as well.

Thanks.

Update:  Oh my gosh!  This is what I like about this list!  Your e-mail made
me think back, and can't remember when I have reset IE, and I think it was
when I had my last computer, about 2 years ago.  I did this, and IE seems to
be working much better!!  Will see how it goes, but appreciate your
e-mail so much!

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 9:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hi Tom,
Try resetting your IE. Here are the instructions below.
How to reset IE 11:
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE 
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General. 
5. Press the right arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something
about checking this box to delete   personal information. Press
the spacebar here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new.

Note: checking the box about removing personal information will not remove
your favorites in IE. 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of my mail
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 12:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

I like a lot of people have been having trouble With IE and
Jaws. This evening I fired up an old HP PC that I picked up for $100 a while
back. It  had a fresh install of the latest Windows 7, IE 11 and Jaws
version 15. It works like a charm  on the Internet, no crashing like my Dell
PC with the same configuration except for Jaws witch is Jaws 2018. I will
have to use it for a while but it looks to me like the problem I have been
having is Jaws 2018.  Tom

--
From: "Nathaniel Kile" <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:45 PM
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

> What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being 
> fully supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web 
> components that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with 
> when using such as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not 
> to mention the security gaps that are within IE.
> IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses 
> it, the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as 
> JAWS, sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to 
> date with the latest changes that are much more relevant.
>
>
>
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
> for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
> www.yourtechvision.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[JM Casey]

That's interesting. When I tried to run FF 57 with JAWS 18, I got a message
warning me that my screen-reader would not function properly. This was a
message/alert that came from Firefox itself, and not JAWS. And indeed, JAWS
did not really work at all. However, the programme did not crash.

Whatever the case though, I'd still be curious to know why it is that there
isn't even rudimentary support for FS Quantum in JAWS. It would seem that
even with NVDA 17.3, the version I have as I still haven't installed the
update, the change in Firefox was somewhat anticipated, and attempts were
made to support it.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: December 15, 2017 6:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Actually, on my system Firefox 57 works fine with NVDA, but Firefox crashes
when i try to run it with JAWS 2018.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?


> Hey.
>
> While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's entirely
> just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is unimportant. In
> fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now, with even the previous
> (IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's not perfect, but they have
> promised that v58 will be better, and I see no reason to doubt them on 
> that.
> In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will continue to
> be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of your choice. I 
> don't
> exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this matter of Firefox 
> 57/Quantum,
> , but I've yet to hear from anyone using JAWS 2018 and maybe it works 
> better
> there? I have JAWS 18, and part of the reason I've been switching more and
> more to NVDA lately is that I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS
> upgrade at this time. Still going to hang on to both though.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Randy Barnett
> Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
> supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang 
> issue
> with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
> I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
> accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
> and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for 
> Google
> not so good for us...
> On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
>> Hello again,
>>
>>
>>
>> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
>> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the
>> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the
>> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an
>> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the
>> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it
> better?"
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the input.
>>
>>
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> --
> Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
> Soundtique
> Grants Pass, Oregon.
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

I totally understand!

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

If Edge had menus  and worked completely with Jaws I might switch, same for
Chrome.  Firefox never worked well for me.  Microsoft has to realize many of
us use IE for its ease of use and they should fix the problems, not all of
us love Edge and the fact that it has taken over two years since its release
to make it somewhat accessible is reprehensible.  No keystrokes available or
let's say easily found to operate Edge in the same way is IE.  Guessing
isn't really something I want to take time to do.  Every time a family
member uses Edge here nothing reads and Yes, Jaws is set to read Edge.  I
dislike Edge partly because of lack of keystrokes I can get to easily,
partly because in my experience it never works well and I don't want to have
to type in the web address for every page I visit, if URLs were shorter
maybe but I have loads of pages in favorites in IE, accessed with Alt A,
nothing in Edge and no way that is visible or accessible that I have found
to import or access without memorizing every URL I use, not happening.  

So, for now I stick with what works and yell at the computer when it hangs,
become unhappy but at least 99% of what I need is right where I put it with
keystrokes available if I happen to forget one.  

Maybe sighted people do not need menus, or keystrokes, I personally work
best with a menu or even a ribbon.  

His is my opinion and your mileage will vary.  

Give me a super reason to use Edge including keeping my home page of my
choice, a way to access sites without having to go to the run command and
type in the full URL as Jonathan does on the podcasts, allow me the
flexibility I experience 99% of the time in IE but without the crashes and I
may move to using it.  

Chrome has many of the same issues as Edge, no menus, no visible keystrokes,
it is a guessing game and I don't usually have time to play three guesses
and none of them count.  

Accessibility, great for those who can see the screen even with
magnification in each browser, not so great for those of us who depend on
Jaws alone because we can't get clues from the screen any other way and why
it has taken more than two years to do a halfway job of fixing this, leaving
all the fixes to third parties who can't get where they need to make it fast
and easy is a point against Microsoft!  Accessibility seems to rule, only if
you can somewhat see the screen.  

Rant over

Rose  rosecomb...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being fully
supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web components
that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with when using such
as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not to mention the security
gaps that are within IE.
IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses it,
the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as JAWS,
sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to date with the
latest changes that are much more relevant.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,

 

Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need to
buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"

 

Thanks in advance for the input.

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[JM Casey]

I don't know. I've always had these sorts of problems with internet
Explorer, mostly with it closing unexpectedly because of some error, or
scripts on a page just slowing everything down so much that they stopped
working. Back in the day, most of my IT friends were telling people not to
use IE. It took me a long time to get on board with Firefox, when I was
using my XP machine, and even then I ended up going back to iE from time to
time because sometimes it did seem like JAWS worked nicely with it. As time
went on, though, I found this to be less and less the case. It got to the
point where many of my favourite websites just did not work properly in IE
anymore. You could still use them, but some of the functionality just wasn't
available. Now when I try to go to goodreads.com with iE, for instance, I
can't even find my own reviews when I click on a book's page. The WWW is
just leaving Internet Explorer behind, and Microsoft has acknowledged this
by bringing in an entire new browsing experience: Edge. Edge is n o good for
me though, and I'm not going to settle for something that works so poorly.
But Microsoft has never really dissuaded  anyone from using third party
products, and well they shouldn't. At this point, I think that's really what
most of us have to do.

It would be nice if browsers, as well as other software,  had accessibility
built into them, and I guess that is the "new paradigm" of things. This way
the screen-reader developers wouldn't constantly have to be struggling to
keep up. But, I guess this isn't really the problem, as far as IE goes, most
of the time.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: December 14, 2017 8:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,

 

Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need to
buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"

 

Thanks in advance for the input.

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

I would be very interested in your tutorial.  I've been exploring Google
Chrome on my own and with help from all of you.

Thanks.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hi!
I have the same results. If you really need to use IE 11, you can use an
earlier version of JAWS. I use Google Chrome with JAWS 2018, and Windows 10,
and it works like a charm as well.
However, when I get my old computer out that has Windows 7 and JAWS 15, IE
does work like a charm.
If any of you would like my Google Chrome Browser tutorial, I can paste it
into a message and put it on here.
Even Edge works better with JAWS 2018 better than IE 11.
As we know, to use Firefox, version 57 does not work with JAWS hardly at
all.
Take care, guys!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 1:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

If memory serves, Jaws 14 was fine, and was using Windows 7 at the time.
Everything running smoothly, as I recall.

Judy




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of my mail
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

I like a lot of people have been having trouble With IE and
Jaws. This evening I fired up an old HP PC that I picked up for $100 a while
back. It  had a fresh install of the latest Windows 7, IE 11 and Jaws
version 15. It works like a charm  on the Internet, no crashing like my Dell
PC with the same configuration except for Jaws witch is Jaws 2018. I will
have to use it for a while but it looks to me like the problem I have been
having is Jaws 2018.  Tom

--
From: "Nathaniel Kile" <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:45 PM
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

> What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being 
> fully supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web 
> components that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with 
> when using such as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not 
> to mention the security gaps that are within IE.
> IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses 
> it, the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as 
> JAWS, sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to 
> date with the latest changes that are much more relevant.
>
>
>
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
> for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
> www.yourtechvision.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Andy Baracco]

Actually, on my system Firefox 57 works fine with NVDA, but Firefox crashes 
when i try to run it with JAWS 2018.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?



Hey.

While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's entirely
just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is unimportant. In
fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now, with even the previous
(IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's not perfect, but they have
promised that v58 will be better, and I see no reason to doubt them on 
that.

In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will continue to
be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of your choice. I 
don't
exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this matter of Firefox 
57/Quantum,
, but I've yet to hear from anyone using JAWS 2018 and maybe it works 
better

there? I have JAWS 18, and part of the reason I've been switching more and
more to NVDA lately is that I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS
upgrade at this time. Still going to hang on to both though.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang 
issue

with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for 
Google

not so good for us...
On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,



Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the
way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the
developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an
uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the
last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it

better?"




Thanks in advance for the input.



Judy



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Soundtique
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[JM Casey]

Hey.

While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's entirely
just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is unimportant. In
fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now, with even the previous
(IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's not perfect, but they have
promised that v58 will be better, and I see no reason to doubt them on that.
In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will continue to
be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of your choice. I don't
exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this matter of Firefox 57/Quantum,
, but I've yet to hear from anyone using JAWS 2018 and maybe it works better
there? I have JAWS 18, and part of the reason I've been switching more and
more to NVDA lately is that I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS
upgrade at this time. Still going to hang on to both though.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang issue
with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for Google
not so good for us...
On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
> Hello again,
>
>   
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it
better?"
>
>   
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Soundtique
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[JM Casey]

A lot of sighted people, or that is, mostly computer "experts", prefer to
have keystrokes. I haven't really bothred with Edge because I mostly love
Firefox and find that it works great. However, it is indeed surprising if
it's as unkeyboard-friendly as all that. The reason I say that is that
Microsoft, more than anyone else, is usually really good with making sure
everything is perfectly workable from the keyboard. They don't do this for
blind users, necessarily, but of course it works out very well for us, too.
Windows 10 is full of great keyboard tricks, and you'd really think Edge
would follow suit. Ah well.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net
Sent: December 15, 2017 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

If Edge had menus  and worked completely with Jaws I might switch, same for
Chrome.  Firefox never worked well for me.  Microsoft has to realize many of
us use IE for its ease of use and they should fix the problems, not all of
us love Edge and the fact that it has taken over two years since its release
to make it somewhat accessible is reprehensible.  No keystrokes available or
let's say easily found to operate Edge in the same way is IE.  Guessing
isn't really something I want to take time to do.  Every time a family
member uses Edge here nothing reads and Yes, Jaws is set to read Edge.  I
dislike Edge partly because of lack of keystrokes I can get to easily,
partly because in my experience it never works well and I don't want to have
to type in the web address for every page I visit, if URLs were shorter
maybe but I have loads of pages in favorites in IE, accessed with Alt A,
nothing in Edge and no way that is visible or accessible that I have found
to import or access without memorizing every URL I use, not happening.  

So, for now I stick with what works and yell at the computer when it hangs,
become unhappy but at least 99% of what I need is right where I put it with
keystrokes available if I happen to forget one.  

Maybe sighted people do not need menus, or keystrokes, I personally work
best with a menu or even a ribbon.  

His is my opinion and your mileage will vary.  

Give me a super reason to use Edge including keeping my home page of my
choice, a way to access sites without having to go to the run command and
type in the full URL as Jonathan does on the podcasts, allow me the
flexibility I experience 99% of the time in IE but without the crashes and I
may move to using it.  

Chrome has many of the same issues as Edge, no menus, no visible keystrokes,
it is a guessing game and I don't usually have time to play three guesses
and none of them count.  

Accessibility, great for those who can see the screen even with
magnification in each browser, not so great for those of us who depend on
Jaws alone because we can't get clues from the screen any other way and why
it has taken more than two years to do a halfway job of fixing this, leaving
all the fixes to third parties who can't get where they need to make it fast
and easy is a point against Microsoft!  Accessibility seems to rule, only if
you can somewhat see the screen.  

Rant over

Rose  rosecomb...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being fully
supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web components
that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with when using such
as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not to mention the security
gaps that are within IE.
IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses it,
the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as JAWS,
sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to date with the
latest changes that are much more relevant.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com 



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,

 

Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

You know what, a very good idea, thanks!




Judy
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- Original Message -
From: David Moore  <davidmoore0...@gmail.com>
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

>
>
> Hi!
> I have the same results. If you really need to use IE 11, you can use an 
> earlier version of JAWS. I use Google Chrome with JAWS 2018, and Windows 10, 
> and it works like a charm as well.
> However, when I get my old computer out that has Windows 7 and JAWS 15, IE 
> does work like a charm.
> If any of you would like my Google Chrome Browser tutorial, I can paste it 
> into a message and put it on here.
> Even Edge works better with JAWS 2018 better than IE 11.
> As we know, to use Firefox, version 57 does not work with JAWS hardly at all.
> Take care, guys!
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Judy Jones
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 1:47 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
> 
> If memory serves, Jaws 14 was fine, and was using Windows 7 at the time.
> Everything running smoothly, as I recall.
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of my mail
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:20 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
> 
> I like a lot of people have been having trouble With IE and
> Jaws. This evening I fired up an old HP PC that I picked up for $100 a while
> back. It  had a fresh install of the latest Windows 7, IE 11 and Jaws
> version 15. It works like a charm  on the Internet, no crashing like my Dell
> PC with the same configuration except for Jaws witch is Jaws 2018. I will
> have to use it for a while but it looks to me like the problem I have been
> having is Jaws 2018.  Tom
> 
> --
> From: "Nathaniel Kile" <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:45 PM
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
> 
> What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being 
> fully supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web 
> components that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with 
> when using such as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not 
> to mention the security gaps that are within IE.
> IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses 
> it, the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as 
> JAWS, sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to 
> date with the latest changes that are much more relevant.
>
>
>
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
> Technology/Training/Teaching for bl/low vision/virtual instruction 
> for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
> www.yourtechvision.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> valent to

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

Except that I don't see this behavior with Chrome, and one sees it 
intermittently seemingly on any web site.



Judy
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From: David Ferrin  <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:33 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

>
>
> It is also possible that the web page you are visiting might just be quite 
> busy at that time as Amazon often is when I go over there, just a thought 
> for folks to consider.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:19 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
> 
> This is how I am feeling, too.
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Randy Barnett
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:51 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
> 
> Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
> supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang issue
> with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
> I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
> accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
> and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for Google
> not so good for us...
> On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it
> better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> -
> Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
> Soundtique
> Grants Pass, Oregon.
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> David Ferrin
> You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Tom,
Try resetting your IE. Here are the instructions below.
How to reset IE 11:
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE 
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter key.
4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General. 
5. Press the right arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear something
about checking this box to delete   personal information. Press
the spacebar here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like new.

Note: checking the box about removing personal information will not remove
your favorites in IE. 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of my mail
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 12:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

I like a lot of people have been having trouble With IE and
Jaws. This evening I fired up an old HP PC that I picked up for $100 a while
back. It  had a fresh install of the latest Windows 7, IE 11 and Jaws
version 15. It works like a charm  on the Internet, no crashing like my Dell
PC with the same configuration except for Jaws witch is Jaws 2018. I will
have to use it for a while but it looks to me like the problem I have been
having is Jaws 2018.  Tom

--
From: "Nathaniel Kile" <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:45 PM
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

> What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being 
> fully supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web 
> components that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with 
> when using such as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not 
> to mention the security gaps that are within IE.
> IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses 
> it, the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as 
> JAWS, sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to 
> date with the latest changes that are much more relevant.
>
>
>
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
> for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
> www.yourtechvision.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[rosecombs52]

If Edge had menus  and worked completely with Jaws I might switch, same for
Chrome.  Firefox never worked well for me.  Microsoft has to realize many of
us use IE for its ease of use and they should fix the problems, not all of
us love Edge and the fact that it has taken over two years since its release
to make it somewhat accessible is reprehensible.  No keystrokes available or
let's say easily found to operate Edge in the same way is IE.  Guessing
isn't really something I want to take time to do.  Every time a family
member uses Edge here nothing reads and Yes, Jaws is set to read Edge.  I
dislike Edge partly because of lack of keystrokes I can get to easily,
partly because in my experience it never works well and I don't want to have
to type in the web address for every page I visit, if URLs were shorter
maybe but I have loads of pages in favorites in IE, accessed with Alt A,
nothing in Edge and no way that is visible or accessible that I have found
to import or access without memorizing every URL I use, not happening.  

So, for now I stick with what works and yell at the computer when it hangs,
become unhappy but at least 99% of what I need is right where I put it with
keystrokes available if I happen to forget one.  

Maybe sighted people do not need menus, or keystrokes, I personally work
best with a menu or even a ribbon.  

His is my opinion and your mileage will vary.  

Give me a super reason to use Edge including keeping my home page of my
choice, a way to access sites without having to go to the run command and
type in the full URL as Jonathan does on the podcasts, allow me the
flexibility I experience 99% of the time in IE but without the crashes and I
may move to using it.  

Chrome has many of the same issues as Edge, no menus, no visible keystrokes,
it is a guessing game and I don't usually have time to play three guesses
and none of them count.  

Accessibility, great for those who can see the screen even with
magnification in each browser, not so great for those of us who depend on
Jaws alone because we can't get clues from the screen any other way and why
it has taken more than two years to do a halfway job of fixing this, leaving
all the fixes to third parties who can't get where they need to make it fast
and easy is a point against Microsoft!  Accessibility seems to rule, only if
you can somewhat see the screen.  

Rant over

Rose  rosecomb...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 6:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being fully
supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web components
that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with when using such
as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not to mention the security
gaps that are within IE.
IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses it,
the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as JAWS,
sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to date with the
latest changes that are much more relevant.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,

 

Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need to
buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"

 

Thanks in advance for the input.

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[John Vernaleken`]

No problems JAWS 2018 and latest IE.

John


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

I am using jaws 2018 and current IE without any problem.

-Original Message-
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,



Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need to
buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"



Thanks in advance for the input.



Judy



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[David Ferrin]

It is also possible that the web page you are visiting might just be quite 
busy at that time as Amazon often is when I go over there, just a thought 
for folks to consider.


-Original Message- 
From: Judy Jones

Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

This is how I am feeling, too.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang issue
with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for Google
not so good for us...
On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,



Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the
way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the
developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an
uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the
last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it

better?"




Thanks in advance for the input.



Judy



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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



--
Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
Soundtique
Grants Pass, Oregon.


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David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[David Moore]

Hi!
I have the same results. If you really need to use IE 11, you can use an 
earlier version of JAWS. I use Google Chrome with JAWS 2018, and Windows 10, 
and it works like a charm as well.
However, when I get my old computer out that has Windows 7 and JAWS 15, IE does 
work like a charm.
If any of you would like my Google Chrome Browser tutorial, I can paste it into 
a message and put it on here.
Even Edge works better with JAWS 2018 better than IE 11.
As we know, to use Firefox, version 57 does not work with JAWS hardly at all.
Take care, guys!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Judy Jones
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 1:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

If memory serves, Jaws 14 was fine, and was using Windows 7 at the time.
Everything running smoothly, as I recall.

Judy




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of my mail
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

I like a lot of people have been having trouble With IE and
Jaws. This evening I fired up an old HP PC that I picked up for $100 a while
back. It  had a fresh install of the latest Windows 7, IE 11 and Jaws
version 15. It works like a charm  on the Internet, no crashing like my Dell
PC with the same configuration except for Jaws witch is Jaws 2018. I will
have to use it for a while but it looks to me like the problem I have been
having is Jaws 2018.  Tom

--
From: "Nathaniel Kile" <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:45 PM
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

> What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being 
> fully supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web 
> components that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with 
> when using such as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not 
> to mention the security gaps that are within IE.
> IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses 
> it, the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as 
> JAWS, sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to 
> date with the latest changes that are much more relevant.
>
>
>
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
> for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
> www.yourtechvision.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

If memory serves, Jaws 14 was fine, and was using Windows 7 at the time.
Everything running smoothly, as I recall.

Judy




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of my mail
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

I like a lot of people have been having trouble With IE and
Jaws. This evening I fired up an old HP PC that I picked up for $100 a while
back. It  had a fresh install of the latest Windows 7, IE 11 and Jaws
version 15. It works like a charm  on the Internet, no crashing like my Dell
PC with the same configuration except for Jaws witch is Jaws 2018. I will
have to use it for a while but it looks to me like the problem I have been
having is Jaws 2018.  Tom

--
From: "Nathaniel Kile" <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:45 PM
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

> What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being 
> fully supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web 
> components that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with 
> when using such as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not 
> to mention the security gaps that are within IE.
> IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses 
> it, the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as 
> JAWS, sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to 
> date with the latest changes that are much more relevant.
>
>
>
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in 
> Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction 
> for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, 
> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
> www.yourtechvision.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?
>
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

Yes, I went to the advanced settings of internet options, and saw 2 to 3
references to images.  The hover over images is off.  Am I checking in the
right place.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Where do you go to do this?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Roger Newell
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Turning off images in the Internet Explorer settings helps to a very small
yet perhaps still noticeable degree.

On 12/15/17, Judy Jones <sonshine...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Dennis Long]

Where do you go to do this?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Roger Newell
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Turning off images in the Internet Explorer settings helps to a very small
yet perhaps still noticeable degree.

On 12/15/17, Judy Jones <sonshine...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Dennis Long]

I agree Randy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang issue
with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for Google
not so good for us...
On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
> Hello again,
>
>   
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it
better?"
>
>   
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


--
Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
Soundtique
Grants Pass, Oregon.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Dennis Long]

I agree.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 9:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

This is how I am feeling, too.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang issue
with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for Google
not so good for us...
On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
> Hello again,
>
>   
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it
better?"
>
>   
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


--
Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
Soundtique
Grants Pass, Oregon.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[my mail]

   I like a lot of people have been having trouble With IE and 
Jaws. This evening I fired up an old HP PC that I picked up for $100 a while 
back. It  had a fresh install of the latest Windows 7, IE 11 and Jaws 
version 15. It works like a charm  on the Internet, no crashing like my Dell 
PC with the same configuration except for Jaws witch is Jaws 2018. I will 
have to use it for a while but it looks to me like the problem I have been 
having is Jaws 2018.  Tom


--
From: "Nathaniel Kile" <heavens4r...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:45 PM
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being 
fully
supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web 
components

that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with when using such
as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not to mention the 
security

gaps that are within IE.
IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses it,
the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as JAWS,
sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to date with 
the

latest changes that are much more relevant.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,



Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need 
to

buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"



Thanks in advance for the input.



Judy



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

This is how I am feeling, too.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang issue
with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for Google
not so good for us...
On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
> Hello again,
>
>   
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it
better?"
>
>   
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


--
Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
Soundtique
Grants Pass, Oregon.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Randy Barnett]

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep 
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang 
issue with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind 
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very 
well and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good 
for Google not so good for us...

On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,

  


Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need to
buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"

  


Thanks in advance for the input.

  


Judy

  


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



--
Sincerely: Randy Barnett (Owner)
Soundtique
Grants Pass, Oregon.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

Thanks, will definitely try that.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Roger Newell
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Turning off images in the Internet Explorer settings helps to a very small
yet perhaps still noticeable degree.

On 12/15/17, Judy Jones <sonshine...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the 
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the 
> way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the 
> developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an 
> uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the 
> last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make 
> it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

I do love Google Chrome, but find elements missing on some sites.  Some of
the element descriptions are better in IE, but certainly doable in Google
Chrome.  For now, I am switching back and forth.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being fully
supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web components
that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with when using such
as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not to mention the security
gaps that are within IE.
IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses it,
the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as JAWS,
sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to date with the
latest changes that are much more relevant.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision Specialist in
Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual instruction for
schools Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,

 

Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need to
buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"

 

Thanks in advance for the input.

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Roger Newell]

Turning off images in the Internet Explorer settings helps to a very
small yet perhaps still noticeable degree.

On 12/15/17, Judy Jones  wrote:
> Hello again,
>
>
>
> Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
> hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
> it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need
> to
> buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
> have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
> can we users do to help "make it better?"
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for the input.
>
>
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Holger Fiallo]

I am using jaws 2018 and current IE without any problem.

-Original Message- 
From: Judy Jones

Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,



Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need to
buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"



Thanks in advance for the input.



Judy



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Nathaniel Kile]

What can IE users do? Probably switch to a browser that is still being fully
supported such as Edge, Chrome or Firefox. There are several web components
that IT no longer even works with, or is very limited with when using such
as, silver light, direct ex, some flash content, not to mention the security
gaps that are within IE.
IT is like holding on to windows 7 at this point. The longer one uses it,
the more issues they will experience. It takes companies such as JAWS,
sometimes more effort to update these programs than stay up to date with the
latest changes that are much more relevant.



Nate Kile,
Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
907-444-3707
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:
www.yourtechvision.com 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Hello again,

 

Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need to
buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"

 

Thanks in advance for the input.

 

Judy

 

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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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[JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Judy Jones]

Hello again,

 

Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the way
it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the developers need to
buckle down and work on, or is this an uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I
have noticed this behavior in the last several versions of Jaws, but what
can we users do to help "make it better?"

 

Thanks in advance for the input.

 

Judy

 

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/