Wayne, I assume that new versions of JAWS keep up with developments on the Web that don't help sell a software product. That said, JAWS 2018 doesn't work with certain messages in Outlook 2010 and fails to keep its place on certain (though not all) Webpages. I've brought these two problems to the attention of VFO by email, but they insist I call to seek solutions, even though others have reported similar experiences on this list. I don't want to spend the time nor risk getting one of VFO's less skilled tech service people, all for what I believe would be a fool's errand.
You seem to be asking if it's worth keeping up with the biennial SMA. If you can afford it, the answer is surely yes. Whether for 2018 or some other future version, VFO's pricing system makes SMA's cheaper than buying JAWS all over again. Also, although I've never come across VFO claims of security, it could be another reason to keep up to date, as it is for all software. -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of wayne smith Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 10:30 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Windows 7 was RE: JAWS is not speaking control descriptions Adrian, I see that you are using Windows 7 64bit as I am. Is there any reason to use JAWS 2018? I still use JAWS 17. Wayne -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 5:59 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions Fernando, Using your driver update example, I tried a couple of ideas on my system, including seeing if the mouseover command would work. It didn't. However, the words you indicate are missing from the control appear when I switch to the JAWS cursor. I'm using a 64-bit Windows 7 machine and right now the last release of JAWS 18. I haven't tested this with 2018. - -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 6:25 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions Hi Mike, I have access keys speaking set to All and Tutor Messages to Custom Messages Only. However, I tried the Menus and Controls options but the issue is not fixed. It is expected that this setting doesn't fix this issue. This is because tutor messages handles speaking of hints given by JAWS on how to operate the focused control type with the keyboard; for example, when you are on a button and have Tutor Messages to Menus and Controls, JAWS will say using the Tutor Message voice: “To activate press space bar.” These are JAWS-specific messages. Control descriptions are small help texts, often just under the control name, which gives information on what a specific control does and it's displayed on the screen. For example, when you are in the Driver Update wizard for a device in Device Manager, the Search Driver Software on your Computer button have a description telling “Search and install the driver software manually,” and the button for check automatically tells something longer about the searching on the computer and Windows Update unless you disabled this in the device installation settings. Thanks a lot! -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 5:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions Hi Fernando, In Jaws quick settings, Options / Basics try these 2 settings if you haven't already. I know I asked this earlier, but I don't know which settings you tried. Using the settings below produced extra Jaws verbiage, but I just don't recall exactly what the control description is supposed to say. Tutor Messages Announce Menu and Control Help radio button checked 2 of 3 Access Key Speak all radio button checked 2 of 4 Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. ----- Original Message ----- From: Fernando Gregoire To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions Hi Mike, Thank you for replying. Yes, I checked both Quick Settings and the Settings Center for the active verbosity level. In the active level, which is Beginner, I have checked the Control Descriptions item, and changing between long or short messages produce the same result on this problem. Regarding Speech and Sounds Manager, I only changed the Classic scheme to make different heading levels to play piano sounds. Even so, I tried reverting to the original Classic scheme but, as I supposed, the problem is not fixed. I also tried running JAWS in English to see if perhaps this is a specific issue in the Spanish version (it wouldn't be the first time I must edit a translated message missing a %1 or documentation which states things in an order different to the actual one, for example), but this issue is also present in English. I think this should be somewhat related to the FocusChangedEvent, but my knowledge of event functions and scripting language in general is poor. As a workaround I tried to add the SayControlDescription function in the FocusChangedEvent, but it didn't worked at all. Do you have some other ideas I can try? Thanks in advance! -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions Hi Fernando, Without knowing what level of verboscity you run, have you looked to see what your settings in the Jaws quick settings / Options / Basics are set at? You're an advanced / very knowlebgeable Jaws computer operator, so I would imagine you have, but just throwing the suggestion out there. Also has a setting in Speech & Sound Schemes possibly changed? Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. ----- Original Message ----- From: Fernando Gregoire To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 7:29 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS is not speaking control descriptions Hi all, Since many versions ago, JAWS is not reading the control descriptions even when I have this item checked in the current verbosity level settings. If I want to get this data, I manually have to locate the Touch Cursor with Advanced Object Navigation on the desired control, press ALT+ENTER and find the value of the HelpText property, which obviously is slow and often useless. Does someone know how I could fix this to match the behavior of some old versions like JAWS 9, in which this verbosity setting was always honored? I am using Windows 10 Fall Creators Update and JAWS 2018. It would be useful to quickly know the information about commands in Office programs like Excel that are complex and I don't use on a daily basis. 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