Thank you all for the input and advice. For now, if I can't solve the compiler "upgrade" issue, I'm going to try restoring from backups until I find one that is error-free. Once past that a significant software upgrade is my next project!
On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 11:04:08 PM UTC-4 ji...@temporal-wave.com wrote: > It's definitely a compiler compatibility issue. I can only guess that one > machine was upgraded and the other wasn't. IF using the .net version of the > compiler, then upgrading that system is part of the system upgrades (I > think - I have not used Windows for years, and not that particular version > for a very long time. > > So, while you might be able to copy the bin and lib directories, the > runtime system installed on the one machine isn't compatible, so it is > linked to libraries that will not be present on the other machine. > > Definitely the best way forward is to upgrade everything - there comes a > time where hanging on to what you've paid for many years ago becomes > impractical. Ignoring whether jBASE can be put back together on that > system, just go and count the system security updates that have been issued > in the intervening years. It isn't sensible to keep using it. > > So, for now, here is how I would put that back together, given that one > system is working: > > Look at what is installed version wise on the working system - .Net > runtime version especially > Install that version of .Net runtime/development system on the system that > stopped working - the thing is though that things like the .Net runtime > version are also fundamental to the system - it may not be possible to > downgrade without a complicated procedure/ > Look at the install/upgrade history on the system that isn't working and > see what went wrong - things like this don't just happen - something was > changed > > Then, honestly, pay a few support $$, get off Windows and on to Amazon > Linux on AWS - the advantages are too many to enumerate. > > > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 4:18 AM Mark Hogden <ma...@proman.com> wrote: > >> It may be a .net framework issue check for which versions are installed >> on both boxes, and reinstall on the problem box. >> Maybe I’m missing something, but if you have good bin and libs on the >> second machine why can’t you use copies of them on the problem box. If you >> can’t blow away the existing bin and lib you can set JBCOBJECTLIST, and >> PATH etc to look for the imported ones. >> >> >> On Aug 10, 2021, at 12:25, Marc <mzi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Agree completely but what can I do short-term to get running??? >> >> For my own edification, why does the code compile and run on another >> installation, same age hardware and compiler, and not on this one? What is >> causing the subroutine call failure? >> >> Thanks again for the assistance. >> Marc >> >> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 2:11:23 PM UTC-4 mvr...@zumasys.com wrote: >> >>> Mark, >>> >>> > What next? >>> >>> Not only is the platform on which you are running this deprecated, but >>> so is the compiler. >>> >>> >>> >>> If the program will compile and catalog on another system without any >>> errors, that should also be an indication that there is a problem with this >>> particular system. >>> >>> >>> >>> The best solution is to invest in some jBASE Support dollars so that you >>> can upgrade to a new jBASE version on a new or newer Windows platform, >>> running a current C++ compiler version. >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* jb...@googlegroups.com <jb...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of * >>> Marc >>> *Sent:* 10 August 2021 18:31 >>> *To:* jBASE <jb...@googlegroups.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: Compilation error 1811 >>> >>> >>> >>> Update: >>> >>> >>> >>> Moved the programs to another server and recompiled and cataloged. NO >>> error messages. Moved the files back to the first machine. Still get a >>> SUBROUTINE_CALL_FAILURE error when running any program with a CALL function >>> even though no LINK error when cataloging. Checked JBCOBJECTLIST and entry >>> points to my LIB file. Checked to be sure LIB file is in PATH. Out of >>> ideas!! What next? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 10:17:23 PM UTC-4 Marc wrote: >>> >>> Sorry to be short on the info I posted...I was hoping the error message >>> would be enough to suggest a fix. >>> >>> I have been running jBase 5.2 on a Windows Server 2008 Foundation R2 for >>> a number of years without incident. I frequently modify and recompile >>> programs with no issues...until yesterday! >>> >>> I haven't restored anything yet, not wanting to make the situation >>> worse. I have daily Windows backups to work from if necessary. >>> >>> >>> >>> As you suggested, I recompiled and recataloged all 472 programs in that >>> .bp file. All of them recompiled and cataloged successfully but 52 failed, >>> I assume at the link stage with the following error message. >>> >>> Source file CASH.ENTRY165 compiled successfully >>> >>> CASH.ENTRY165 >>> Object CASH.ENTRY165 cataloged successfully >>> link @C:\Windows\TEMP\jbuild2 >C:\Windows\TEMP\jbuild3 failed , command >>> returned >>> a code of 1181 >>> LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option '/DWIN32'; ignored >>> LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option '/MD'; ignored >>> LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option '/W3'; ignored >>> LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option '/GR'; ignored >>> LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option '/EHa'; ignored >>> LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option '/GF'; ignored >>> LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option '/F5000000'; ignored >>> LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option '/D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE'; >>> ignored >>> LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option '/D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE'; >>> ignored >>> LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option '/D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64'; >>> ignored >>> LINK : fatal error LNK1181: cannot open input file >>> 'C:\USERS\DEV\LIB\objdir\FTCM >>> DLN.obj' >>> jcompile.exe: C:\Windows\TEMP\jbuild2 deleted >>> jcompile.exe: C:\Windows\TEMP\jbuild3 deleted >>> jcompile.exe: Returned an error code of 8 >>> ** Unable to rebuild library C:\USERS\DEV\LIB\lib1.dll ** >>> >>> >>> >>> The FTCMDLN file does not exist in my LIB directory, although it does in >>> my old backup file. If there is a way to determine what programs reside >>> within the old file so I could copy it, and/or, how do I create the input >>> file that seems to be missing? >>> >>> >>> >>> Naturally, the affected files are all daily order processing ather than >>> year-end accounting programs. This leaves me dead in the water until you >>> (no pressure intended) can offer some guidance. >>> >>> Please let me know if you need any additional info. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Marc >>> >>> (201) 334-7038 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 9:36:20 PM UTC-4 ji...@temporal-wave.com >>> wrote: >>> >>> It is a little tough to answer your question - you did not provide very >>> much information. So I will have to guess at a few things: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1) You say Lib/objdir, so I have to guess you mean Windows? But what >>> version? >>> >>> 2) I think error 1811 is likely a linker error - but you did not show us >>> the actual error. >>> >>> 3) What version of Windows, if it is Windows? >>> >>> 4) What version of the compiler? >>> >>> 5) What version of jBASE? >>> >>> 6) What did you restore? An entire backup? Part of the system? Was the >>> backup compiled using the same version of Windows and the compiler? >>> >>> 7) What kind of backup? >>> >>> 8) Which object code does it say is missing? You should be able to work >>> out the source code that is not compiled from that. >>> >>> >>> >>> But, in general you can recompile everything and recatalog everything, >>> so long as you have the source code. If you have changed compilers or >>> systems since that backup, it is generally a good idea to recompile and >>> recatalog. And not when the system is live of course. Maybe clear out all >>> the old objects beforehand, though in theory that should not be required. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you have good backups, then you can try anything as you can always go >>> back to the backup. But I would start by clearing out the object code you >>> restored and doing a BASIC and CATALOG on all the files - that should clear >>> everything up. >>> >>> >>> >>> Have you considered moving to Linux? The difference is quite big these >>> days. You can also run it on AWS Linux in the cloud - there is no really >>> good reason not to these days. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 7:36 AM Marc <mzi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Help!!? >>> >>> >>> >>> After cataloging a revised program I get a error message that first, >>> tells me that the program was catalogued successfully, then fails to >>> rebuild the library saying that an object file can't be found. Sure >>> enough, it is in an old backup file but not in the current Lib\objdir >>> directory. >>> >>> >>> >>> 1) what the heck happened? >>> >>> 2) can I copy the old file to the correct directory and recompile or do >>> I risk completely messing things up? >>> >>> >>> >>> All help will be appreciated as I'm unable to process a large inventory >>> file without the updated program.... >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> IMPORTANT: T24/Globus posts are no longer accepted on this forum. >>> >>> To post, send email to jb...@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe, send email to jbase-un...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/jBASE?hl=en >>> 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