Re: [JBoss-dev] Bla: JBoss Configuration & Evolution between releases [long]

2003-11-09 Thread Scott M Stark
Sacha Labourey wrote: This places restrictions on the class loader implementation, and if you are talking Why? This would be our classloader that we setup during the micro-kernel startup: instead of simply setting one, we would possibly set two. In org.jboss.system.server.ServerImpl.initBootLibra

RE: [JBoss-dev] Bla: JBoss Configuration & Evolution between releases [long]

2003-11-09 Thread Sacha Labourey
> Most services using the conf directory are just doing a > ClassLoader.getResource() so overriding the conf with a user > specific one means there is a directory in the classpath > search order ahead of the default. This places restrictions Yes. > on the class loader implementation, and if y

Re: [JBoss-dev] Bla: JBoss Configuration & Evolution between releases [long]

2003-11-09 Thread Scott M Stark
Yes, which is why this discussion cannot scale to the point of fantasy where a client inputs an arbitrary of list of services, OS, JDK, existing configs and have a custom build magically appear. That will be possible when Charles Simonyi’s fantasy development env exists: http://www.technologyreview

Re: [JBoss-dev] Bla: JBoss Configuration & Evolution between releases [long]

2003-11-09 Thread Scott M Stark
Sacha Labourey wrote: This is asking for a configuration service. The notion here of merging overrides based on speical URLs has too many implementation requirements. What do you mean? Most services using the conf directory are just doing a ClassLoader.getResource() so overriding the conf with a

RE: [JBoss-dev] Bla: JBoss Configuration & Evolution between releases [long]

2003-11-09 Thread Sacha Labourey
> We already have this capability, its just a question of using > it. The hsqldb-ds.xml can reference a > > There is no reason to add new semantics to the current > classpath element. > There are new semantics in terms of identity of classes by > virture of the fact that the hsqsdb.jar c

Re: [JBoss-dev] Bla: JBoss Configuration & Evolution between releases [long]

2003-11-09 Thread Holger Baxmann - bitwind
Hi all, During my fresh and enduring experiences of porting the 3.0.4/3.0.8/3.2.1/3.2.2 to AIX 4.3.3 I have the feeling there should by a seperation between the TBB - to be build and tested - cycle, the configuration cycle and the lifecycle of the productive JBoss System as a whole: the enclos

Re: [JBoss-dev] Bla: JBoss Configuration & Evolution between releases [long]

2003-11-08 Thread Scott M Stark
Some questions points on the main issues here. Sacha Labourey wrote: 1) /lib === /lib is maybe the easiest case: it mostly contains JBoss's needed classes. One small problem maybe: some of these classes are not directly use by the JBoss microkernel directly (nor by the services in conf/J

[JBoss-dev] Bla: JBoss Configuration & Evolution between releases [long]

2003-11-08 Thread Sacha Labourey
Hello, I would like to continue our discussion of JBoss configuration as I think we must make that much better for future releases of JBoss. There are lots of facets to this problem but in order to keep things simply, I would like to start talking about a single one: user configuration of JBoss a