RE: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-20 Thread QuKN
Jencks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@lists.sourceforge.net on 04/19/2001 10:19:48 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available Hi, Thanks for responding. So if I understand you correctly yo

Re: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-20 Thread James Cook
, April 20, 2001 12:19 AM Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available > Hi, > Thanks for responding. > > So if I understand you correctly you are suggesting that a possible type of > application would be something like this: > > web form goes through servlet and eve

RE: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-19 Thread David Jencks
Thanks, cool, a specific example! david jencks On 2001.04.19 18:53:28 -0400 Filip Hanik wrote: > Jason, > take a look at > http://www.haley.com/0004398854012928/ClaimsAdjudicationBusinessRules.html > > this is as real as it gets, imagined if you hard coded all these rules in > Java, pain in the

RE: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-19 Thread David Jencks
ta you enter will usually be > ! > ! > processed by a component that could have been efficiently generated by a > rule-based system. This is a huge market. > > Cheers, > David. > > -Original Message- > From: Tobias Frech [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Se

Re: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-19 Thread David Jencks
Hi, Thanks for your interest. This sounds interesting. Thousands of rules are way too much for me right now, maybe about 10, but I'd like to know a bit more about this and think about it. Can you figure out how such a system would be used? Is it simply "put in all the desired options and get

RE: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-19 Thread Filip Hanik
Jason, take a look at http://www.haley.com/0004398854012928/ClaimsAdjudicationBusinessRules.html this is as real as it gets, imagined if you hard coded all these rules in Java, pain in the booty Filip ~ Namaste - I bow to the divine in you ~ Filip Hanik Software Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.

Re: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-19 Thread Hiram Chirino
e can setup the rules him self. Regards, Hiram - Original Message - From: "Jason Dillon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:13 PM Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available > Where would a rule engine fi

RE: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-19 Thread Lemoine David-dlemoi01
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 April 2001 10:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available Hi! David Jencks wrote: ... ... > I've thought some about rules, but have no practical experience with them. > I wonder if when you have a complicated set of

Re: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-19 Thread Tobias Frech
Hi! David Jencks wrote: ... ... > I've thought some about rules, but have no practical experience with them. > I wonder if when you have a complicated set of interacting rules you tend > to get unpredictable results? > > As I keep saying, more (specific) examples would be great. I do not know

Re: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-18 Thread David Jencks
Hi, Thanks for your interest. You're right about what the rule engine does. For some reason I can't get to haley right now, I'll check again later. I haven't been able to find out what jsr 94 is/will be proposing. Does anyone have any information? Thanks David Jencks On 2001.04.18 19:28:59 -

Re: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-18 Thread David Jencks
Dillon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:13 PM > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available > > > > Where would a rule engine fit into JBoss? Would it be for > configuration? > I >

RE: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-18 Thread David Jencks
Hi, Even though I implemented it I wondered this too. I can think of several reasons to use rules rather than hard-coding. 1. The rules change frequently. "this week, anyone buying more than x widgets of types a, b, and c gets an extra 35% discount". I think things like this are often quoted.

Re: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-18 Thread Stan Ng
PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:13 PM Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available > Where would a rule engine fit into JBoss? Would it be for configuration? I > don't really see what use it is. Why not just use Java condit

RE: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-18 Thread Jason Dillon
Where would a rule engine fit into JBoss? Would it be for configuration? I don't really see what use it is. Why not just use Java conditionals. I bet I am just missing something (rather important). --jason On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Filip Hanik wrote: > > www.blazesoft.com is another rules engin

RE: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-18 Thread Filip Hanik
www.blazesoft.com is another rules engine. commercial software use rule engines for a lot of different things. imagine product promotions, if you bought something for this amount, on this date and you are of a certain age you will get a different promotion that if you were of a different age. th

Re: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-18 Thread Vladimir Blagojevic
Hey, I saw your message too. However, I am so busy this week that I can not devote any time to JBoss. As I understand Rule engines are some sort of interpreter for if-then-else logic. I assume that they are going to be used mostly in business logic of your beans. I assume that instead of some

Re: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-18 Thread David Jencks
Hi, At least one person saw my message. Thats one of the questions I was asking. A couple of months ago Marc suggested someone write a rule engine integration for jboss, so I volunteered. Although there is a java community process group working on an integration standard, I couldn't find out wha

Re: [JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-18 Thread Jason Dillon
What is a rule engine used for in real world applications? Could you give an example (other than "compute factorials and fibonacci numbers")? --jason On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, David Jencks wrote: > Hi, > > I am pleased to announce that I have a working rule engine integration > between JBoss and JE

[JBoss-dev] Rule Engine Integration Available

2001-04-18 Thread David Jencks
Hi, I am pleased to announce that I have a working rule engine integration between JBoss and JEOPS (http://sourceforge.net/projects/jeops/). I have made the source available at http://home.earthlink.net/~davidjencks/. There are tar.gz and zip versions. Please follow the instructions in the REA