Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-27 Thread Hans Dockter
A major aspect of Programming is mastering complexity. The human mind can deal only with something like seven entities at once. An important means to approach a set of entities that is much larger is abstraction. A good IDE reduces the amount of swapping between levels of abstraction tremendously

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-27 Thread Nick Betteridge
is the basis of any application wishing to use any combo of the modules + any 'user' developed modules. And its open source too - Original Message - From: Hans Dockter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-27 Thread Aleksandr Shneyderman
Hate to say this but netbeans (www.netbeans.org) beats eclipse hands down. Hate to tell you but that thing is just damn slow. What amazes me is that no matter how much RAM your machine has NetBeans is just always hungry for it. Does all of the below and lots more. Go take a look at the

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-27 Thread Hiram Chirino
Well, if you are willing to shell out some cash, then you might consider trying webshpere studio. Since it's built on eclipse, it has all the eclipse goodies plus a ton of other stuff like a jsp editor. Regards, Hiram --- Aleksandr Shneyderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hate to say this but

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-27 Thread Jason Dillon
force it to use ant to do all compiles? Seems like that would be best to solve most problems. I've been able to get it to run our ant build files directly. You might have to go into the eclipse properties and add all the tools/lib/*.jar files to the ANT runtime classpath. Do you know if there is

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-27 Thread Peter Fagerlund
hmmm ... allow me to namedrop and spread unverified grapewine info here then ... ThogetherSoft is toying with Eclice as it's runtime framework in upcoming versions ... or was that before Borland ? ... PS: Any right made void as this message is transmitted in a reporting capacity : DS

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Hiram Chirino
+1 I use it all them time. The Refactoring support and the Quick Assist features rock. Regards, Hiram --- Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can not believe how fast, intelligent and functional this little IDE. I have tears in my eyes I am so pleased. Okay perhaps I need to get

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Jeff Haynie
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hiram Chirino Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... +1 I use it all them time. The Refactoring support and the Quick Assist features rock. Regards, Hiram --- Jason Dillon

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Rhett Aultman
Title: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... The guys around my office (who have never been without some sort of integrated IDE like Delphi or JBuilder) call me the "old UNIX guy" even though I'm only 23. They were roaring in the aisles the day I told them that Eclipse was the only IDE to

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Nathan Phelps
While we're on the subject of Eclipse... Can anyone give me some tips for working with the JBoss source in Eclipse via the built-in extssh client? I can get it all checked out, but then it gets very confused about the package names. It tries to do j2ee.src.main.org.jboss.j2ee,

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Igor Fedorenko
Is there any particular reason you have to use builtin extssh? I use ext/ssh and am pretty happy with it. -Original Message- From: Nathan Phelps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Jason Dillon
Any reason not to set it up as multiple projects? I have had nothing but success when connecting Eclipse projects to a checked out jboss-head. --jason On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 02:42 AM, Nathan Phelps wrote: While we're on the subject of Eclipse... Can anyone give me some tips for

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Aleksandr Shneyderman
j2ee.src.main.org.jboss.j2ee, messaging.src.main.org.jboss.mq, etc. I guess it wants individual projects for each directory? You can checkout the jboss source to work with and create new java project with the link to the directory to which you cvs'd the jboss modules. It will be pretty slow

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Jason Dillon
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... +1 I use it all them time. The Refactoring support and the Quick Assist features rock. Regards, Hiram --- Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can not believe how fast, intelligent and functional this little IDE. I have tears

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Hiram Chirino
I've tried it various ways.. lately I've been doing the following: - compile source code manualy. - adjust eclipse build path by: adding the source folders of sub projects that I will be working with as source folders. (the default is no good) - adjust eclipse build path by: adding all the

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Dain Sundstrom
Ya, for like 5 minutes. All I really want out of an ide is an editor, syntax highlighting and ant. I can get that from vim, bash and ant. Am I missing some amazing feature. -dain On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 02:24 PM, Jason Dillon wrote: Ahh, but have you tried Eclipse? --jason On

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Tieying Liu
release. -Original Message- From: Jason Dillon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... Any reason not to set it up as multiple projects? I have had nothing but success when

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Nathan Phelps
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Dillon Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... Any reason not to set it up as multiple projects? I have had nothing

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Jason Dillon
I think it is better to use the jars from the module output directory, cause the exact location under build/output will change from version to version. Is there any way to make Eclipse create jars? Or any way to make it conditionally compile stuff for 1.3 and others for 1.4? Or a way to

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Aleksandr Shneyderman
Is there any way to make Eclipse create jars? Or any way to make it Export feature conditionally compile stuff for 1.3 and others for 1.4? Or a way to force it to use ant to do all compiles? Seems like that would be best to solve most problems. You can switch between the 1.3 and 1.4

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Hiram Chirino
--- Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is better to use the jars from the module output directory, cause the exact location under build/output will change from version to version. true.. but it's easier to do a multiple selection in 2 or 3 directories rather than going

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread philipborlin
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RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Bill Burke
This is one of the very reasons I avoid IDEs. If you don't live in them, you die by them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hiram Chirino Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread philipborlin
I think it is better to use the jars from the module output directory, cause the exact location under build/output will change from version to version. What build/output will change from version to version? Is there any way to make Eclipse create jars? Go under the file menu to export.

Re: RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Robert HALL
, February 26, 2003 1:58 pm Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... I have been using both and I like IntelliJ much more. Although eclipse is catching up with the RC1. Eclipse 2.1 might compete with IntelliJ 2.5 ( I see lots of eclipse features if not all are copied from IntelliJ

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Peter Fagerlund
onsdagen den 26 februari 2003 kl 22.32 skrev Bill Burke: This is one of the very reasons I avoid IDEs. If you don't live in them, you die by them. True ! ... not only of IDEs ... but systems in general !!! ... (ours come to mind) ... motivation is key when in a entropy volatile environment

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Jason Dillon
I think it is better to use the jars from the module output directory, cause the exact location under build/output will change from version to version. What build/output will change from version to version? The directory name under build/output changes when the version number/tag changes. Is