[JBoss-dev] [AOP on JBoss (Aspects/JBoss)] - Re: New Asynchronous Aspect .

2004-04-20 Thread marc fleury
This is great stuff claude. 

I am a bit fuzzy on the use of the synchronous call.  What would be the use case for 
that?

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[JBoss-dev] [AOP on JBoss (Aspects/JBoss)] - Re: Fluid AOP

2004-04-20 Thread marc fleury
well Scott is talking about just an abstract keyword (thread local) to identify a 
given configuration.   Is that what you are talking about. 
 

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[JBoss-dev] [AOP on JBoss (Aspects/JBoss)] - Re: Observable Pattern on the WIKI

2004-04-17 Thread marc fleury
this is great work adrian, 

Bill, I think what I hear you say is that we can now deploy a self contained aspect.  
The aspect knows where he wants to be bound.  The aspect could export its pointcuts, 
he knows he wants to listen on set* etc.  It will make for superior deployment formats 
for aspects. 

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[JBoss-dev] [AOP on JBoss (Aspects/JBoss)] - Re: Observable Pattern on the WIKI

2004-04-17 Thread marc fleury
I hear you on the usage of Subject.  I saw it is the way the GOF named it.  I still 
prefer Observable. 

Getting at the state is done by passing the reference to the subject in your 
implementation.  It makes for a great and simple implementation.  If we could pass 
some metainformation as to what has changed (name of the field for example), it would 
make for more finegrained callbacks from the observer.  

What does GOF say?

marcf

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[JBoss-dev] [AOP on JBoss (Aspects/JBoss)] - Re: Observable Pattern on the WIKI

2004-04-16 Thread marc fleury
So I am looking at the code, 

1- well done Adrian this is kick ass stuff
2- Why do we call it the Subject? why don't you call it observable. 
3- We need to start talking of aspects.  I realize we apply the observable aspect 
and introduce that behavior.  That we introduce it on set is irrelevant, yet today the 
way to configure the XML. 



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[JBoss-dev] [Nukes Development] - Re: active developer soundoff

2004-02-25 Thread marc fleury
it is a great idea :)

I am delighted to see the activity around nukes.  3 active guys is in fact really 
good. 

You guys would be proud, the only ovation I got yesterday at the JUG talk in Austin 
was when I demoed nukes live, people love the stuff

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RE: [JBoss-dev] [AOP on JBoss (Aspects/JBoss)] - Re: New AOP stuff going on.

2004-02-25 Thread Marc Fleury
Oy!

This pisses me off, we NEED TO HAVE THIS ONLINE as the forums start getting
out of sync.

Claude 

1- please stop using u when you mean you.  
2- contribute and get RW if you will
3- repost this online
4- bill please use the FORUMS to answer, just click on the link

marcf 

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 AOP stuff going on.
 
 I have looked at how to answer to my second question (The 
 easiest one ;-))
 
 The class advised for a Caller pointcut is the calling class.
 I didn't find a way to get a handle on this class within the 
 implementation of the Interceptor.So ,by adding the following 
 code within the invokeCaller method from the ClassAdvisor 
 class ,I am solving my problem.
 
 // New field added within the CallerInvocation class.
 invocation.callingClass = this.clazz; 
 
 Then ,to get information on the calling class ,we just need 
 to call the following static method in the Interceptor implementation 
 
 Method callingMethod 
 =MethodHashing.findMethodByHash(methodInvocation.callingClass,
 methodInvocation.callingMethodHash);
 
 let me know what u think.
 
 Thx-Claude
 
 
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[JBoss-dev] [JBoss IDE] - Re: JBoss IDE broken in Eclipse M7

2004-02-22 Thread marc fleury
is M7 working with plugins? that was totally broken and JBoss IDE relies on it.  It 
was buggy in Eclipse. 

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[JBoss-dev] [JBossWeb] - Re: JSF General Release

2004-02-22 Thread marc fleury
eusdart, 

want RW on CVS? submit some code

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[JBoss-dev] [JBoss IDE] - Re: JBoss IDE broken in Eclipse M7

2004-02-20 Thread marc fleury
my read is that we need someone full time on JBossIDE.  JBoss Professional Open Source 
is bringing someone on board when the project is taking off.  We haven't so far but we 
should, the hippy open source model (contribute when you can) seems to be braking 
down here. 


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[JBoss-dev] [JTA on JBoss] - Re: Reordering of resources in commit of XA transaction

2004-02-20 Thread marc fleury
Patrick,

High end JTA with all the bells and whistles is one of these things that is used by 20 
people in the world and they are eager to pay for it since they got the money.

Open Source satisfies the masses.  Proprietary fills those expensive niches.

Arjuna's business and sole focus is that high end  JTA so we are quite glad with that 
partnership, they provide us with a solution (for pay) in these high end  niches, it 
is expensive but it is worth it. For me to throw 3 of our guys to do that today isn't 
the best use of our time, nor the best bang FOR OUR COMMUNITY.  We got much to do in 
J2EE 1.4, CMP/Hibernate, JMS, JBoss 4.0, AOP, etc that DO reach the mass market. 

A high profit niche in JBoss is a good thing for our partners.  Arjuna also works with 
others.

Adrian has been working on the JTA and JCA stuff which needed professional work.  
Mostly JCA 1.5.

JMS is another story and Adrian/Bela have been doing work there. JMS solidity/revamp 
is a priority.  JMS is solid in the 3.2X series due to ALOT of work (adrian again).

that being said, if you submitted a high end JTA implementation in open source to 
JBoss we wouldn't refuse it, the same way I wouldn't kick michelle pfeifer out of bed 
if she crawled in purring like a cat. 

he he 

marcf  

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[JBoss-dev] [JTA on JBoss] - Re: Reordering of resources in commit of XA transaction

2004-02-20 Thread marc fleury
btw LRCO strikes me as a small benefit, almost a hack. 

So in the case ONE resource doesn't support XA the XA protocol still works if that 
resource is last. (woo hoo!)

but heck if we can implement it for cheap why not

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[JBoss-dev] [XDoclet on JBoss (XDoclet/JBoss)] - Re: controling what and how interfaces are generated

2004-02-20 Thread marc fleury
zapa, the stuff works, how do I know? I use it.  But you need to follow the steps in 
the getting started book, you seem to have not done it.  I have done it and it 
works.  

I was experiencing the same problem you report because I had gotten cute on the 
filters in the task definition and decided to not type what the getting started book 
recommended and the classes didn't get included just like you see. 

It is not eclipse, guaranteed.  Follow the steps in the intro docs please.  Meaning 
RTFM before you start talking trash



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[JBoss-dev] [Nukes Development] - Re: roadmap, feature requests, etc

2004-02-16 Thread marc fleury
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hey I am really glad to see a thread like this one.  There is a lot of work to be done 
and I liked the ideas presented on the messaging and such. Or a live board section.  
That would be great actually and we could use it for weekly talks with the 
community. 



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[JBoss-dev] [Nukes Development] - Re: roadmap, feature requests, etc

2004-02-16 Thread marc fleury
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RFE on sourceforge are a bit too obscure.  I prefer the acoliver wiki approach on the 
website.  Also acoliver, you got some balls to come and recruit contributors out of 
julien's project.  you get your own. 


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[JBoss-dev] [Nukes Development] - Re: nukes cvs on Jboss ide

2004-02-16 Thread marc fleury
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I went through that myself recently and it actually works. 



Basically you can find the eclipse file from a fresh CVS checkout, so do that first.  
Then from Eclipse tell him to import the project pointing to that file.  It 
automatically pulls down all the files from the central repository (so it does a 
second checkout). 



I got the stuff to compile after adding 2 missing classpath files.  It compiles in 
Eclipse now.  I really like the differential compiler feature. 




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[JBoss-dev] [TODO -- DEVELOPMENT] - Re: Interest in EPC RFID project(s)?

2004-02-16 Thread marc fleury
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interesting, I was reading about RFID in scientific american and it is one of these 
simple things where the possibilities seem endless.  What is EPC? is it some software 
behind it?



We rarely steer new contributions.  Let me explain it: if it is important to you 
then you would probably contribute it yourself.  That is the way it works.  So we 
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[JBoss-dev] [AOP on JBoss (Aspects/JBoss)] - Re: object pooling detrimental to performance

2004-02-12 Thread marc fleury
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One more thing that will throw off HotSpot is the Advisable interface since it 
essentially says that the profile of a method changes in time.  There need to be 
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[JBoss-dev] [Caches on JBoss (Caches/JBoss)] - Re: Cache with

2004-02-12 Thread marc fleury
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Right, 



we need the notion of regions.  Do you have cycles to code this?


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[JBoss-dev] [Caches on JBoss (Caches/JBoss)] - Re: need in-container treecache example

2004-02-12 Thread marc fleury
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I was going to RTFM but do we have an TFM? 



in other words did you find any doco on the cache page yet? 


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[JBoss-dev] [Persistence development forum] - Re: Using Hibernate and JBoss, how to?

2004-02-09 Thread marc fleury
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RTFM


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[JBoss-dev] [Nukes Development] - Re: Bug in ThemeSupport.java

2004-02-09 Thread marc fleury
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thanks siandty, 



Julien is currently onsite working on a large RFP ;).  When he comes back he will be 
able to fix this.  Can I ask you to put this in sourceforge.net? so we keep track of 
the bugs? I think there are other people involved in the development of nukes already 
and I would recommend expanding the team at this point :)



 


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[JBoss-dev] [TODO -- DEVELOPMENT] - Re: CeBit get together?

2004-02-09 Thread marc fleury
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heiko, 



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[JBoss-dev] [JMX on JBoss (JBoss/JMX)] - Re: Unification of invocation and interceptors

2004-02-08 Thread marc fleury
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on the topic of return interceptors. 



Try catch is ok but the important point is interceptor variable visibility across in 
and out.  For example think TX interceptor, the behavior of the interceptor on the OUT 
part depends on the IN part (was there a transation in a REquires NEW mode?).  If you 
don't have one instance dealing with that, you are stuck with stuffing that 
information in the invocation object and retrieving it on the way out.  



IN/OUT separation of interceptors make it just more complex to write for not 
functional advantage (that I can see)


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[JBoss-dev] [AOP on JBoss (Aspects/JBoss)] - Re: object pooling detrimental to performance

2004-02-06 Thread marc fleury
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That is kind of interesting really. People where bitching about the hit they were 
taking with the object creation.  I find it hard to believe that in fact it is FASTER 
to not pool.  Very interesting.  I guess the limit is VM garbage collection on large 
system vs pooling.  Meaning in the future we should think about it in the scope of 
scalability. 



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[JBoss-dev] [Tomcat] - Re: Integration of Tomcat 5.0.16 with Jboss 2.4.7

2004-02-05 Thread marc fleury
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this is exactly the kind of situation we would take under the for-pay contracts. 



Very few people use 2.4 and it doesn't make sense for us to support it for free.  



If you would take a contract out we could look at that integration work. 






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[JBoss-dev] [AOP on JBoss (Aspects/JBoss)] - Re: New AOP stuff going on.

2004-02-05 Thread marc fleury
View the original post : 
http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3820347#3820347

Reply to the post : 
http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3820347

this is great stuff



we need you to do a BLOG entry about this to give some visibility and order on the 
forums posts


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[JBoss-dev] [AOP on JBoss (Aspects/JBoss)] - Re: NPE in MethodTailInterceptor

2004-02-04 Thread marc fleury
View the original post : 
http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bbop=viewtopicp=3820235#3820235

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http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3820235

yeah yeah yeah come and help come and help.



marcf


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[JBoss-dev] [AOP on JBoss (Aspects/JBoss)] - Re: Bug in ClassAdvisor

2004-02-04 Thread marc fleury
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rythos, 



get RW will you?


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[JBoss-dev] [AOP on JBoss (Aspects/JBoss)] - Re: NPE in MethodTailInterceptor

2004-02-04 Thread marc fleury
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http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bbop=postingmode=replyp=3820249

this is how we recruit. 



ooo we see the eye in you.. 



nah bullshit, just code a ton and get the stuff working and you are in. 



You say you are done soon huh? hmm






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[JBoss-dev] Training in Houston coming up

2004-01-27 Thread Marc Fleury
Guys, 

We got an advanced training coming up in Houston Texas.  Feb 16-19 2004.
We cover the latest 3.2.x series and you get primo insights into the
advanced material with 4.0.  Whether you are going to production and you
want to understand how to optimize JBoss, want to learn about the latest
JBossCache or are starting your ISV development, be sure to attend the
advanced training.  This is a 4 day class that goes for $3000. 

The training will be given by Scott Stark, CTO of JBoss and Alex
Loubyanski, CMP lead visiting from Ukraine.

More information is available at

http://www.jbossgroup.com/index.html?module=htmlop=userdisplayid=servi
ces/training/schedule#houston-adv

Regards,

marcf 


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RE: [JBoss-dev] URL based transaction demarcation and long running transations

2004-01-19 Thread Marc Fleury
Isn't that already part of the AOP framework or are you talking about a
servlet filter?  

narcf
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 Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:51 AM
 To: Jboss-Dev
 Subject: [JBoss-dev] URL based transaction demarcation and 
 long running transations
 
 I'd like for somebody to look into being able to define 
 transaction demarcation like we can for EJB at the 
 servlet/jsp/war level.  So, based on a URL pattern you can 
 specify trans-attributes.  Along with this would be stuffing 
 the transaction into the HTTP session so that you can have 
 long transactions that span separate HTTP requests.  I don't 
 think that something like this would be very hard to do.  It 
 is just a matter of providing a Filter and some metadata with 
 jboss-web.xml.  You can probably steal a lot of code from the 
 transaction interceptors within our ejb stack and invokers.
 
 Let me know if anybody is interested and I can give you some 
 more ideas.
 
 Bill
 
 P.S. Ivelin.  I'd like to add this to the roadmap.
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] What are you doing that is cool on JBoss?

2004-01-16 Thread Marc Fleury
Link please :)

marcf 

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 Subject: [JBoss-dev] What are you doing that is cool on JBoss?
 
 I've built an adult site around jboss3.2.3 ... not pr0n as 
 such, but more advanced than any other *similar* site   :-)  ...
 
 
 So I do a lot of JBoss training and when I'm not doing that 
 I'm working on
 making JBoss a kick-ass email server so that no one ever has to use 
 exchange
 or domino again.  I often wonder what the quiet folks are 
 doing that is 
 cool
 with JBoss.
 
 So if you don't have a jboss.org/.com address or even if you 
 do, pipe up 
 and
 tell me what you're doing.
 
 I'd also like to get other folks writing on the
 (http://linuxintegrators.com/jbossBlog) jbossBlog about cool 
 stuff.  Do you
 have a blog?  Who are you?
 
 -Andy
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] What are you doing that is cool on JBoss?

2004-01-16 Thread Marc Fleury
Actually I should mention. 

We power playboy.com (for real).  I have a check from christie heffner
on my wall in the office (for real).  We never cashed it, I never washed
the hand that took the check out of the envelope.


The funny part (for real) is that WE COULDNT FIND ANYONE TO GO ONSITE,
all the guys wanted to go, all the women put their veto :)  Like you get
bunnies walking around naked in the IT department... Makes you lose
focus. 

marcf  

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 Behalf Of Jim Morrison
 Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 5:13 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [JBoss-dev] What are you doing that is cool on JBoss?
 
 I've built an adult site around jboss3.2.3 ... not pr0n as 
 such, but more advanced than any other *similar* site   :-)  ...
 
 
 So I do a lot of JBoss training and when I'm not doing that 
 I'm working on
 making JBoss a kick-ass email server so that no one ever has to use 
 exchange
 or domino again.  I often wonder what the quiet folks are 
 doing that is 
 cool
 with JBoss.
 
 So if you don't have a jboss.org/.com address or even if you 
 do, pipe up 
 and
 tell me what you're doing.
 
 I'd also like to get other folks writing on the
 (http://linuxintegrators.com/jbossBlog) jbossBlog about cool 
 stuff.  Do you
 have a blog?  Who are you?
 
 -Andy
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] Fwd: ASF JIRA Installation is available

2004-01-15 Thread Marc Fleury
Danch is still alive, amazing, 

marcf 

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 Behalf Of danch
 Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 5:26 PM
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 Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Fwd: ASF JIRA Installation is available
 
 you _are_ joking, right?
 
 Andrew Oliver wrote:
  If we forego unnecessary features from the bug tracker such as:
  
  Fields (really just a nicety)
  Search/filter on fields (nice to have but who needs it) 
 History (Nice 
  to have but you only need to know that there is a bug) Change 
  notification for bugs (not really needed)
  
  We can then just use the nukes forums for bugs and forego the bug 
  tracker all together.
  
  -Andy
  
  
 From: Bill Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:52:25 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Fwd: ASF JIRA Installation is available
 
 Actually, that's a great idea.  We'll write a bug tracker for nukes 
 for
 6 months, but then decide to replace it with Jira because somebody 
 wants Wiki style bug text.
 
 Bill
 
 Andrew Oliver wrote:
 
 
 Maybe someone can write a bug tracker module for nukes }:-)
 
 -Andy
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] Remoting and NAT traversal, advanced network]

2004-01-07 Thread Marc Fleury
 
 
 And, no Marc, this isn't relegated to just JMX as Bill 
 demonstrates with AOP Remoting.  This should be used for JMS, 
 EJB and all the other subsystem layers.  ;)

That is great, the AOP remoting part is the future.  But the best of
this will come as the invoker layer for proxies of EJB (which do use the
JMX invokers).  Replace the EJB invokers with the functionality pointed
out by Scott and you got massive usage of this. 

Marcf




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RE: [JBoss-dev] JMX 1.2, remoting, and jmx-remoting commited to 3.2 branch

2004-01-04 Thread Marc Fleury
Thanks jeff, 

marcf 

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 Behalf Of Jeff Haynie
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 Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] JMX 1.2, remoting, and jmx-remoting 
 commited to 3.2 branch
 
 OK, I commited this -- remoting services are now deployed in 
 remoting-service.xml in default and all.  It's not in minimal.
 
 Jeff
 
 Scott M Stark wrote:
 
 I don't want the remoting code in the conf/jboss-service.xml 
 file yet. 
 This needs to contain only the required services. The 
 remoting services 
 need to be a seperate sar in deploy for easy removal if they are not 
 wanted.
 
 
 
 Scott Stark
 Chief Technology Officer
 JBoss Group, LLC
 
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 Cc: Tom Elrod
 Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] JMX 1.2, remoting, and jmx-remoting 
 commited 
 to
 3.2 branch
 
 Tom/Scott,
 
 The modules remoting and jmx-remoting weren't integrated 
 into the main 
 build and weren't being built into the main distribution. I 
 fixed this 
 and also setup the default detector/connectors to be automatically 
 deployed as part of the default jboss-service.xml.
 
 I've committed this fix to the branch. 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] One way invocations in remoting added

2003-12-10 Thread marc fleury
Nice job tom, 

marcf 

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 Subject: [JBoss-dev] One way invocations in remoting added
 
 I have added the ability to do true one way invocations 
 within JBoss Remoting.  I also started a small section within 
 the JBoss Remoting document on it (included see below).
 
 While the code is functional, my performance tests have 
 uncovered some scale problems within the remoting code that I 
 am going to begin working on.  After I get this ironed out I 
 plan on putting together a matrix showing the performance 
 trade offs between the different one way calls and the two 
 calls using different protocol transports.
 
 If you have any questions, please let me know.  Any feedback 
 would be greatly appreciated (positive or negative).
 
 BTW, you can find the JBoss Remoting doc at 
 http://jboss.org/modules/html/developers/projects/jboss/remoti
 ng/jboss_remoting.doc
 
 Thanks.
 
 -Tom
 
 One way invocations
 
 The JBoss Remoting framework also provides the ability to 
 make one way calls for invocations that are not expecting a 
 return value.  Using one way invocations will greatly 
 increase the rate at which a client may make remote calls.  
 The traditional two way invocation will cause the calling 
 client thread to block as it makes a request to the server, 
 wait for the request to be processed and then a value 
 returned to the waiting client thread, at which point it will 
 return.  In one way invocations the calling client request is 
 handled by a thread pool to perform the request.  Thus, the 
 client thread is returned as soon as the request has been 
 handed off to the thread pool and does not have to wait for 
 the request to be processed.
 
 There are two configurations that can be used when making a 
 one way call; the first is to have the request performed by a 
 thread pool that exists on the client and the other is to 
 have the request performed by a thread pool that exists on the server.
 
 
 
 
 
 Client side one way
 
 When using the client side thread pool to perform the 
 request, the calling thread will return almost immediately 
 and the request will be executed by a different worker 
 thread.  Even though this method reduces the execution time 
 by the calling thread, the caller looses visibility to any 
 exceptions that may occur contacting the server, such as in 
 the case that the server is down.
 
 Server side one way
 
 When using the server side thread pool to perform the 
 request, the calling thread will follow the execution path 
 through the transport to the server side.  The server will 
 receive the request and place in a thread pool to be executed 
 on the server side and the calling thread will return.  The 
 request will then be executed by a worker thread on the 
 server side.  Although using the server side one way 
 configuration is a little slower than the client side one 
 way, the caller will be thrown any exceptions that may occur 
 in the process of calling to the server.
 
 In either configuration, server side or client side, the 
 caller will not be aware of any exceptions that occur during 
 the actual processing of the request within the server handler.
 
 
 One way API
 
 One way invocations are exposed within the 
 org.jboss.remoting.Client class.  The relevant methods are:
 
 public void invokeOneway(final Object param, final Map 
 sendPayload, boolean clientSide) throws Throwable
 
 public void invokeOneway(Object param, Map sendPayload) 
 throws Throwable
 
 The method containing the boolean parameter allows users to 
 decide if should use client side or server side thread pool 
 execution.  The other method defaults to server side thread 
 pool execution.
 
 Making calls on the one way invoke methods is the same as you 
 would on the two way invoke method.
 
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] EJB 3.0

2003-12-02 Thread marc fleury
Bua... 

AOP and EJB a la carte.  Dude, why I love EJB's was the deconstruction of
EJBs to reoffer them a la carte.  We are there, almost, and so beyond in
many ways.  I just read a paper for AOSD that introduces STREAM semantics as
aspects for EJB like constructs, meaning POJOS :)

He he snort. 

Seriously, I don't know that we are formally involved in that spec, but we
should, 

marcf

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 Hi,
 
 is there anyone involved here:
 http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=220 ?
 
  Heiko
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] Tomcat updates

2003-11-30 Thread marc fleury
 - Hopefully we'll have a JB 3.2.3 bundle with Tomcat 5 :)

Yep

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RE: [JBoss-dev] Hibernate Integration

2003-11-25 Thread marc fleury
Yes

:)

marcf 

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 Is the JBoss group going to add 'official' support for 
 Hibernate to JBoss? I mean to bundle it in a .sar, integrate 
 Hibernate Session management into the EJB container? All the 
 stuff that is badly documented right now :-)
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] Tomcat session replication

2003-11-25 Thread marc fleury
Good job, 

But a clear job for AOP in JB4.  The cache product is DYNAMITE. 

marcf 

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 Hello,
 
 A few changes in the Tomcat HTTP Session replication code.
 
 First, some unnecessary synchronization has been removed. 
 This should lead to better scalability and in some cases 
 remove the impression that the replication is hanging.
 
 Second, the replication has been improved. Without using 
 AOP-like frameworks, it is hard to determine when an HTTP 
 session is modified. When setAttribute is called, the 
 situation is (almost) obvious. However, if only getAttribute 
 is called, you never know as something like that could occur:
   ( (HashMap)session.getAttribute (bla) ).put 
 (newKey, newValue);
 
 In that case, the setAttribute is never called but the 
 content of the session is modified. Consequently, it is up to 
 the developer to help the container optimize its work.
 
 A new tag (session-replication-trigger) has been added to 
 JBoss-web.xml:
 
 !ELEMENT jboss-web (class-loading?, security-domain?, context-root?,
virtual-host?, use-session-cookies?, 
 session-replication-trigger?, resource-env-ref*,
resource-ref* , ejb-ref* , ejb-local-ref*, depends*)
 
 This tag determines when the container should consider that a 
 session must be replicated accross the cluster. Possible values are:
   1 - SET_AND_GET
   2 - SET_AND_NON_PRIMITIVE_GET (default value)
   3 - SET
 
 The first option is conservative but not optimal 
 (performance-wise): it will replicate the session even if its 
 content has not been modified but simply accessed 
 (getAttribute). As shown above, there is no deterministic way 
 to know if the content of an attribute is not itself 
 modified. It WAS the default value in the past (simply 
 because it was the only implementation available), which 
 explain why the perf will be improved now.
 
 The second option is conservative but will only replicate if 
 a non-primitive Object has been accessed (Integer, Long, 
 Double, Short, String, etc. which are immutables). We can 
 take that decision because the previous example cannot be 
 used to modify a session without calling setAttribute (as the 
 objects are immutable). It is the NEW default value.
 
 The third option considers that the developer will 
 explicitely call setAttribute on the session otherwise it 
 will not be automatically replicated.
 
 Tag examples:
  
 session-replication-triggerSET_AND_GET/session-replication-trigger
   or
  
 session-replication-triggerSET_AND_NON_PRIMITIVE_GET/sessio
 n-replication-
 trigger
   or
  
 session-replication-triggerSET/session-replication-trigger
 
 
 Furthermore, in the past, when a new session was created, two 
 replications were occuring (one for the creation, one when 
 setting the session). Now, these two steps are reduce to a 
 single step = a single replication.
 
 These two changes should improve the performance of your 
 current clustered Web Application (using Tomcat).
 
 Cheers,
 
 
   Sacha
 
 
 
 
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[JBoss-dev] FW: [Core] Sys Admin Denver Sold OUT

2003-11-18 Thread marc fleury



Guys, 

denver is sold out, 

marcf

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark 
  AndresSent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 3:22 PMTo: 'The 
  Core'Subject: [Core] Sys Admin Denver Sold OUT
  
  We have hit our 
  cut-off of 28 attendees registered for sys admin denver.
  We may be able to 
  squeeze in 1 or 2 more but I have change it to sold out on the 
  website.
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RE: [JBoss-dev] West coast TRAINING

2003-11-13 Thread marc fleury
He he

It is SNOWCRASH the known computer virus that when seen turns you into a zombie.  It 
really reprograms your brain to give us all your earthy belonging to us and attend LA 
bootcamp.

Sorry you are having such a horrible experience, 

marcf 

 

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 exchanged properly.  I've seen this before on jboss.org (and, 
 occasionally, on pages served up internally using 
 JBoss/Jetty).  I'm running with sp2.
 
 --
 Jim Brownfield
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 Radical System Solutions, Inc. 
 
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  Scott M Stark
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:09 PM
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  Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] West coast TRAINING
  
  
  I have IE60sp1 with winxp pro and the bootcamp link looks fine:
  http://www.jbossgroup.com/index.html?module=htmlop=userdispla
 yid=services/training/bootcamp#losangeles
 Not sure what the issue could be.
 
 --
 
 Scott Stark
 Chief Technology Officer
 JBoss Group, LLC
 
 
 Jim Brownfield wrote:
 
  I tried to check out the LA bootcamp, but all I get is 
 garbage when I 
  click on the link.
  
  I've seen this before on other pages under jboss.org.  I tried 
  deleting the cache and forcing a reload, but nothing seems 
 to make it readable.
  
  I'm using I.E. 6 under Windows XP Pro.
  
 
 
 
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[JBoss-dev] West coast TRAINING

2003-11-12 Thread marc fleury
Guys, 

We will be in LA for bootcamp THIS WEEKEND.  So if you are on the west
coast, come.  I will there and you can ask me all the question about the
latest stuff as well as Scott Stark who will talk about the upcoming 3.2.3
release.  Adrian brock (JMX, JMS, AOP) will be there from the UK and Bela
Ban (cache, jgroups) and ben wang who is starting Monday with us (;) and
worked on the cache stuff.  So... It is going to be a good checkpoint show
and we will breeze through the west coast.  Don't miss us.   We are about 30
people so we it is going to be a intimate session almost. 

Registration: www.jboss.org click on the right side. 

DENVER ADMIN is selling like crazy.  We are 20 days away and already almost
sold out.  I recommend you guys on the west coast that want to get a deep
understanding of the admin (netboot, management) to register soon.  The
Denver training will be done by Bill Burke in person (JB4), don't miss it.  

We hope to see you there, these are the boom times

Regards

marcf

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Founder
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RE: [JBoss-dev] And another JBoss fork

2003-10-30 Thread marc fleury
Title: Re: [JBoss-dev] And another JBoss fork



LOL

marcf

  Yes, much fun. And like computers: they give cryptical error reports 
  :-)
  


RE: [JBoss-dev] commit of jmx package done

2003-10-28 Thread marc fleury
Well done tom :)

marcf 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Tom Elrod
 Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [JBoss-dev] commit of jmx package done
 
 (I sent this last night be never showed up in my inbox, so 
 sending it again.  Sorry if you get this twice, but wanted to 
 make sure it got out)
 
 The commit of jmx package to HEAD to bring in JMX 1.2 from
 BRANCH_4_0_DR3 is done.  I tagged CVS with 'pre_JMX_1_2' 
 immediately before commit and tagged with 'pre_JMX_DR3' a few 
 days ago, which is the source the committed code was based 
 on.  I tagged with 'post_JMX_DR3'
 after all the files were committed.  It looks like everything 
 is building properly in Linux and Windows as well as starting 
 the server with 'all' configuration is working (both Linux 
 and Windows).
 
 I have not committed the changes for the testsuite, so it is 
 not compiling at this point.  I will be committing those 
 files tomorrow, accompanied by another CVS tag.  However, I 
 ran the testsuite before initial commit (which will should be 
 same results after commit) and can see the results of HEAD 
 and the changed code at following links:
 
 before:
 http://e2technologies.net/projects/jboss/test/results/windows/
 HEAD/html/
 
 after:
 http://e2technologies.net/projects/jboss/test/results/windows/
 rollback/html/
 
 If you experience any problems you think are related to the 
 checkin, please let me know.
 
 The rest of this covers the changes made...
 
 The code checked in under the jmx package was all based on the
 BRANCH_4_0_DR3 and had to remove some of the files at HEAD, 
 add some files to HEAD, and modify a lot of existing files.  
 The only package to remain untouched was the mx.loading.  The 
 packages for JMX Remoting were removed and will be added back 
 as it's own module (in order to break the dependency between 
 jboss-mx and jboss-remoting).
 
 Also, if you have checked any code into the jmx module within 
 the past couple of weeks, I can not guarantee that I did not 
 over write the changes with my local updated copy.  I tried 
 to find any changes that I could migrate into the jmx 1.2 
 codebase, but is very possible I missed something. So I you 
 have made changes to jmx, please help me by verifying that 
 you changes made it into this commit (or are at least 
 relevant to the new code base).
 
 Files to committed outside of jmx package:
 
 sever\src\main\org\jboss\jmx\connector\rmi\RMIConnectorImpl.java
 server\src\main\org\jboss\web\ WebClassLoader.java 
 jboss.net\src\main\org\jboss\net\jmx\adaptor\server\Adaptor.java
 system\src\main\org\jboss\Main.java
 server\src\main\org\jboss\jmx\adaptor\rmi\RMIAdaptor.java
 tomcat\build.xml
 build\build.xml
 
 Had to hack in some changes to LoaderRepository.  The reason 
 is that WebClassLoader now indirectly uses this, which calls 
 getCachedClass() at some point (per changes to HEAD at start 
 of the month).  So I copied the implementation from 
 UnifiedLoaderRepository3 to make it work.  However, this is 
 NOT a good long term solution as LoaderRepository is an 
 abstract class and the extending classes will need to be able 
 to get access to the cache so it can clear it if a 
 ClassLoader is removed.  Adrian, could use your help on 
 straightening this out.
 
 -Tom
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] We need a 3.0.9 maintenance release

2003-10-28 Thread marc fleury
 Won't introducing the same code require an incompatible 
 change to the current datasource jboss-service.xml schema? 
 Given the hideous nature of 3.0 format I can't say this is a 
 bad thing.

I am glad the clowns responsible for this configuration mess self-flushed
themselves to apache

Cleaning up the house.

marcf

 
 Everything else seems to be an implementation detail I don't 
 have a problem with.
 
 --
 
 Scott Stark
 Chief Technology Officer
 JBoss Group, LLC
 
 
 Adrian Brock wrote:
 
  On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 18:40, Scott M Stark wrote:
  
 We need a 3.0.9 maintenance release. Let me know what outstanding 
 issues need to be ported to the 3.0 branch for a release so 
 I can set 
 a timeframe for this.
  
  
  I'd like to backport jbossmq, mdb and jca from 3.2.
  This would let me maintain one codebase.
  The 3.2 Transaction Manager would probably be a good idea as well?
  
  However, this would introduce configurations changes into the 3.0 
  branch such as the -ds.xml deployments or at least moving the 
  connection factory config onto the pool mbean.
  Additionally it would require a number of other changes/fixes like 
  TransactionLocal and MBeanServerLocator.locateJBoss() 
 (others I would 
  find while doing it?)
  
  Is that acceptable?
  
  3.0 does not properly support OracleXA which is a spec unto 
 itself :-)
  
  Regards,
  Adrian
  
 
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] And another JBoss fork

2003-10-28 Thread marc fleury



oh my god, here goes the business. They are barely 
out of the womb and already they want to rule the world! Take our business away 
and ruin us too many forks, they are happening like rabbits. 


My twins will kick the butt of your deamons 
:)

well done to everyone, babies are always good news. 
:) 

cheers and onward, 

marcf

  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Rupp, HeikoSent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:54 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  [JBoss-dev] And another JBoss fork
  
  Hi,
  I am pleased to announce that another JBoss fork has happened.
  
  For details see: http://www.pilhuhn.de/orlando/
  
  As you can see from the first picture, the young man will work on 
  deamonish 
  functions.
  
   Heiko
  
  


RE: [jboss-group] FW: [JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-643739]unknown-pk?missing in jbosscmp-jdbc_3_0

2003-10-11 Thread marc fleury
He he, 

Sacha pointed out that we are comm on jboss-dev.  Guys I do apologize but as
you can tell the eyes in the sky are recruiting.  It is a positive thing
as professional open source is booming.  I will take the opportunity to
reach and say that joining JBoss Group through the ranks is the easiest way.
It is not that difficult to get into the codebase, there are plenty of open
places.  Guys like Laurent (which I met in Paris hence the bravo ta bite
comment, private joke) who dive in and want to become pro are what we are
looking for. 

So if you have it in you, know that open source development leads to
Professional open source development and this is very early in the game, 

Recruiting a few good men (and women hopefully;)

Peace Love and Good code

marcf 

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:29 PM
 To: Private list for internal JBoss Group discussion; 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [jboss-group] FW: [JBoss-dev] [ 
 jboss-Bugs-643739]unknown-pk?missing in jbosscmp-jdbc_3_0
 
 bring him the america:)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of marc fleury
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:21 PM
 To: 'Private list for internal JBoss Group discussion'; 
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 Subject: RE: [jboss-group] FW: [JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-643739 
 ]unknown-pk?missing in jbosscmp-jdbc_3_0
 
 
 Let's get laurent on board, it seems our bravo ta bite 
 comment made 
 it through, he buys it :)
 
 Cool, Sacha keep a close eye on this guy he is good,
 
 marcf
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sacha 
  Labourey
  Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:56 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [jboss-group] FW: [JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-643739 ] 
  unknown-pk?missing in jbosscmp-jdbc_3_0
 
  Laurent is our new bug-report serial-killer!!! ;)
 
  That's great, thanks! I did it once, it was good to close 
 all these 
  cases!
 
  -Original Message-
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of 
  SourceForge.net
  Sent: vendredi, 10. octobre 2003 17:52
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-643739 ] unknown-pk?
  missing in jbosscmp-jdbc_3_0
 
  Bugs item #643739, was opened at 2002-11-25 21:04 Message 
 generated 
  for change (Comment added) made by letiemble You can respond by 
  visiting:
  https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=6
  43739group_id
  =22866
 
  Category: None
  Group: None
  Status: Closed
  Resolution: Invalid
  Priority: 5
  Submitted By: Harald Venström (hvenstrom)
  Assigned to: Laurent Etiemble (letiemble)
  Summary: unknown-pk? missing in jbosscmp-jdbc_3_0
 
  Initial Comment:
  The optional defaults element unknown-pk? is missing in 
 the online 
  document:
  http://www.jboss.org/j2ee/dtd/jbosscmp-jdbc_3_0.dtd
  for reason unknowed it seem to have been lost in the 
 latest update? 
  (fFrom the 22/11...).
 
  
 -
  -
 
  Comment By: Laurent Etiemble (letiemble)
  Date: 2003-10-10 17:52
 
  Message:
  Logged In: YES
  user_id=437455
 
  This feature is only available in 3.2.0. That why it doesn't not 
  appear in the dtd.
 
 
  
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RE: [jboss-group] FW: [JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-643739 ] unknown-pk?missing in jbosscmp-jdbc_3_0

2003-10-10 Thread marc fleury
Let's get laurent on board, it seems our bravo ta bite comment made it
through, he buys it :)

Cool, Sacha keep a close eye on this guy he is good, 

marcf 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Sacha Labourey
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:56 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [jboss-group] FW: [JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-643739 ] 
 unknown-pk?missing in jbosscmp-jdbc_3_0
 
 Laurent is our new bug-report serial-killer!!! ;) 
 
 That's great, thanks! I did it once, it was good to close all 
 these cases!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of SourceForge.net
 Sent: vendredi, 10. octobre 2003 17:52
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [JBoss-dev] [ jboss-Bugs-643739 ] unknown-pk? 
 missing in jbosscmp-jdbc_3_0
 
 Bugs item #643739, was opened at 2002-11-25 21:04 Message 
 generated for change (Comment added) made by letiemble You 
 can respond by visiting: 
 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=376685aid=6
 43739group_id
 =22866
 
 Category: None
 Group: None
 Status: Closed
 Resolution: Invalid
 Priority: 5
 Submitted By: Harald Venström (hvenstrom)
 Assigned to: Laurent Etiemble (letiemble)
 Summary: unknown-pk? missing in jbosscmp-jdbc_3_0
 
 Initial Comment:
 The optional defaults element unknown-pk? is missing in the 
 online document:
 http://www.jboss.org/j2ee/dtd/jbosscmp-jdbc_3_0.dtd
 for reason unknowed it seem to have been lost in the latest 
 update? (fFrom the 22/11...).
 
 --
 
 Comment By: Laurent Etiemble (letiemble)
 Date: 2003-10-10 17:52
 
 Message:
 Logged In: YES
 user_id=437455
 
 This feature is only available in 3.2.0. That why it doesn't 
 not appear in the dtd.
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] CVS

2003-10-02 Thread marc fleury


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 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 5:53 PM
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 Subject: [JBoss-dev] CVS
 
 
 Anybody else having problems connecting to cvs?
 
 Regards,
 Adrian
 -- 
  
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 Back Office
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RE: [JBoss-dev] Re: [jboss-group] JRMPInvokerProxy

2003-09-20 Thread marc fleury
 - Generalization of the proxy factory framework to loose the 
 ejb specific items 
 manifestly showing up in the 
 org.jboss.proxy.GenericProxyFactory which should be 
 a more generic metadata representation. The only difference 
 between the http 
 proxy factory and jrmp proxy factory is a different Invoker 
 type and the lack of 
 a jndi name.

Great

 - The whole Invoker layer needs to be migrated to the more 
 general remoting 
 framework. The remoting

Ok, I am unfamiliar with that framework.  The only 'surface' problem I
would have would be to tie it to JMX. The targets need to be identified
by logical names.  The logical names are mapped to 'handlers', for
example a JMX one that understands the target identifier as a JMX
MBeanName etc.  

 - There is an XMBean interceptor which implements the 
 invoke(Invocation) 
 handling in the 3.2.1 admin/devel book which should be rolled 
 into the codebase. 
 The problem here is that is has to deal with 2 types of 
 Invocations and two type 
 of Interceptors. This needs to be unified.

Unifying the interceptors would be a good idea.  The only thing that
needs to be multiple is AOP that deals with interfaces (Dynamic Proxy)
or the AOP that deals with raw objects and the javassist framework. But
definitely the SIGNATURE of the invocation should be unified so that
interceptors themselves come in ONE flavor 

Public Invocation invoke(Invocation)

And then we can weave these in the EJB contaienr, the XMBean container
(the first two should be unified in their constructions as well as you
point out) and raw AOP containers with assembly based on the XML bill
has.  But all the interceptors should have the same API, same thing with
the Invocation object itself, good call on that. 

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RE: [JBoss-dev] Re: [jboss-group] JRMPInvokerProxy

2003-09-20 Thread marc fleury
Keyo, 

InvocationException extends Invocation
InvocationResponse extends Invocation

So you get the original context in both cases

marcf

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Sacha Labourey
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 11:34 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Re: [jboss-group] JRMPInvokerProxy
 
 
  Unifying the interceptors would be a good idea.  The only 
 thing that 
  needs to be multiple is AOP that deals with interfaces (Dynamic 
  Proxy) or the AOP that deals with raw objects and the javassist
  framework. But
  definitely the SIGNATURE of the invocation should be unified so that
  interceptors themselves come in ONE flavor 
  
  Public Invocation invoke(Invocation)
 
 Right now, the new signature that Bill implemented is something like:
 
   public InvocationResponse invoke (Invocation) throws Throwable
 
 More specifically, when an exception is thrown, it is not 
 wrapped inside the InvocationResponse but thrown back 
 directly (not even wrapped). This is bad IMHO as this prevent 
 to attach payload to invocations that generate exceptions. If 
 we want to always be able to send back data to the client 
 side, we don't care if an Application Level exception (even 
 system in fact) has been thrown.
 
 One way to solve that and if we want to keep the good old 
 (working) try...finally construct we have today in the 
 interceptors would be to change the signature like that:
 
   public InvocationResponse invoke (Invocation) throws 
 InvocationException
 
 And have the InvocationException exception wrap the source 
 Exception/Error and allow attachement of arbitrary payload.
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 
   Sacha
 
 
 
 
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 General Manager
 JBoss Group (Europe) SàRL
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RE: [JBoss-dev] Re: [jboss-group] JRMPInvokerProxy

2003-09-20 Thread marc fleury
Oh great then, logical names and all then

marcf

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Jeff Haynie
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 4:43 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: [jboss-group] JRMPInvokerProxy
 
 
 Nice to see Marc is still on the remoting is tied to JMX 
 kick which is completely and utterally incorrect. ;)
 
 Remoting has nothing to do with JMX, except that as a 
 convenience the connectors serve as MBeans.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 11:22 AM
 Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Re: [jboss-group] JRMPInvokerProxy
 
 
   - Generalization of the proxy factory framework to loose the ejb 
   specific items manifestly showing up in the
   org.jboss.proxy.GenericProxyFactory which should be
   a more generic metadata representation. The only difference
   between the http
   proxy factory and jrmp proxy factory is a different Invoker
   type and the lack of
   a jndi name.
 
  Great
 
   - The whole Invoker layer needs to be migrated to the 
 more general 
   remoting framework. The remoting
 
  Ok, I am unfamiliar with that framework.  The only 
 'surface' problem I 
  would have would be to tie it to JMX. The targets need to be 
  identified by logical names.  The logical names are mapped to 
  'handlers', for example a JMX one that understands the target 
  identifier as a JMX MBeanName etc.
 
   - There is an XMBean interceptor which implements the
   invoke(Invocation)
   handling in the 3.2.1 admin/devel book which should be 
 rolled into 
   the codebase. The problem here is that is has to deal 
 with 2 types 
   of Invocations and two type
   of Interceptors. This needs to be unified.
 
  Unifying the interceptors would be a good idea.  The only 
 thing that 
  needs to be multiple is AOP that deals with interfaces (Dynamic 
  Proxy) or the AOP that deals with raw objects and the javassist 
  framework. But definitely the SIGNATURE of the invocation should be 
  unified so that interceptors themselves come in ONE flavor
 
  Public Invocation invoke(Invocation)
 
  And then we can weave these in the EJB contaienr, the 
 XMBean container 
  (the first two should be unified in their constructions as 
 well as you 
  point out) and raw AOP containers with assembly based on 
 the XML bill 
  has.  But all the interceptors should have the same API, same thing 
  with the Invocation object itself, good call on that.
 
  Marcf
 
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] connection listerner lookup has contention

2003-09-12 Thread marc fleury
Just one word...

 Why can't the connection listener be stored in the Managed 
 Connection? 
 I'd like to remove this contention.  OptimizeIt has this at 
 32.9% in my
 little test on a dual CPU machine with 10 threads in contention.

Wow

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[JBoss-dev] EURO BOOT CAMP Amsterdam NEW DATES

2003-09-12 Thread marc fleury
So someone reminded me that in europe people don't like to take time off
their hollidays or weekends to go to a training.  How could I forget?
Silly me.  So we moved the dates for the amsterdam bootcamp from the
weekend Oct 11-12 to OCT 13-14.  If you have already registered we will
be contacting you individually. 

The bootcamp will feature all the european crew and some of the US as
well, it is going to be a good event, 

The new dates are MONDAY and TUESDAY OCT 13-14. 

http://www.jbossgroup.com/index.html?module=htmlop=userdisplayid=servi
ces/training/bootcamp

marcf

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RE: [JBoss-dev] Re: [jboss-group] revamping Invocation objects

2003-09-11 Thread marc fleury
You guys are talking about a 3.3 proxy talking to a 3.2 server?  

If that is the case, it is not really relevant as most proxies are
dynamically generated.  Or are you talking about portability of
interceptors working on the Invocation objects? 

The stability of 3.2 and its performance are priorities #1, 3.x will
live for MANY years 

marcf

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Bill Burke
 Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:22 PM
 To: Private list for internal JBoss Group discussion; Jboss-Dev
 Subject: [JBoss-dev] Re: [jboss-group] revamping Invocation objects
 
 
 I'd rather not maintain something like that.  What do you think?
 
 IMHO, we should guarantee over-the-wire compatibility only for a 
 specific branch.  over-the-wire compatibility should be breakable 
 between major releases.
 
 Adrian Brock wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 23:00, Bill Burke wrote:
  
 Ok, I wouldn't be able to improve raw, over-the-wire, remote 
 performance
 without breaking compatibility with older JBoss versions.
 
  
  
  Would it be possible to set a property that provides backwards 
  compatibilty at serialization. Something similar to jmx 1.0 
 vs jmx 1.1 
  serialized forms?
  
  Regards,
  Adrian
  
  
 Bill
 
 Bill Burke wrote:
 
 
 Only problem here is that what I've done so far is not backward
 compatible with a previous version of JBoss.  I guess this 
 is important. 
   correct?  I can make it compatible, but it will be a 
 tiny bit ugly.
 
 I did increase performance for noop local interface calls 
 for SLSB by 
 20%.
 
 Adrian Brock wrote:
 
 
 Ideally there should be no hashmap for normal usage.
 Using the principle: you don't pay for what you don't use.
 
 Regards,
 Adrian
 
 On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 20:02, Bill Burke wrote:
 
 
 In our quest to improve performance, I'm doing a redesign of our
 Invocation object to minimize object creations and hash 
 lookups.  
 I'll base it on some of Sacha's and my own observations.
 
 Just wanted to give some heads up just in case somebody else was
 looking at this too.
 
 Bill
 
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] JavaGroups: name change

2003-08-28 Thread marc fleury
It is a good name :)

marcf

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 Behalf Of Bela Ban
 Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:14 PM
 To: JavaGroups; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [JBoss-dev] JavaGroups: name change
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 I've decided to change the name JavaGroups to JGroups.
 
 This is mainly due to the fact that I can get sued at any time by SUN 
 for infringing on the Java trademark.
 
 To this end I bought jgroups.org and jgroups.net. I did not buy 
 jgroups.com because the guy who had parked it wanted $2 
 for it. http://www.javagroups.com, http://www.jgroups.org and 
 http://www.jgroups.net will point to the same web site.
 
 So, for users of JavaGroups, the package name will change from 
 org.javagroups to org.jgroups.
 
 I will perform this change before Oct 1st. I will send out an 
 email to 
 jg-dev when I start. At that point, nobody should write to the CVS.
 
 This should actually be really smooth because I can use 
 IntelliJ IDEA's 
 great refactoring package.
 
 -- 
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 http://www.javagroups.com
 Cell: (408) 316-4459
 
 
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] 4.0 rollback 1st phase complete

2003-08-28 Thread marc fleury
Phew, 

I am glad we are done, that was what about 2000 emails on cvs-commit?

Wow

marcf

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 Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:52 PM
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 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 4.0 rollback 1st phase complete
 
 
 FYI, I forgot to say that the old HEAD code is under the:
 
 Branch_4_0_DR3
 
 Bill
 
 Bill Burke wrote:
 
  Completed rollback of 4.0 to 3.2 on HEAD.  I will start merging 4.0 
  code
  tomorrow slowly.  I will probably need a lot of help here.  
 Especially 
  in the webservices stuff that was added to 4.0 over the 
 past 9 months.
  
  For HEAD modules that exist in Branch_3_2, these modules have been
  rolled back entirely to the 3.2 series.  All new modules in 
 HEAD after 
  3.2 have been retained in head.
  
  Now that we've rolled back, let's start being really 
 careful on how we
  treat HEAD.  HEAD is not a playground.  Let's not be sloppy 
 coders.  Run 
  the testsuite before you commit anything big.  If you are 
 experimenting 
  with a rewrite, create your own branch to work on.  Let's keep HEAD 
  stable this time around.
  
  Thanks and sorry for the inconveniences.
  
  Bill
  
  
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] Interface or protocol between JBoss and its clustering framework

2003-08-14 Thread marc fleury
 And OTP is a runtime somewhat similar to OTP. 

That's a relief.  

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RE: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] Re: Recent CVS removals

2003-08-14 Thread marc fleury
We are going to be working on these very soon, Julien Viet is tasked
with making this happen and thanks for the twiki idea.  I have been
wrestling with the multithread part.  I wanted to do blog on top of
discussions (mt discussiosn are great when you are in the flow but suck
when it comes to one place to read) whereas the twiki would provide that
unique one thread. 

On the ball, thanks

marcf

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 Behalf Of Brian Wallis
 Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:35 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] RE: [JBoss-user] Re: Recent CVS removals
 
 
 On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 03:30 am, Juha Lindfors wrote:
  The benefit for design and development discussion is clear. You can 
  very easily get the whole history of the discussion thread 
 in front of 
  you (or several threads). Even if the discussion occured 6 
 months ago 
  and you were not there then to read through it.
 
 Just to confuse the issue :-) I've found a much more useful 
 forum for design 
 discussions to be a Wiki web. We have been successfully using 
 one for nearly 
 a year now and have the best documentation for our design 
 work that I have 
 ever experienced.
 
 The reason is that it is possible to re-factor the discussions, after 
 decisions are made, into the design document without all the 
 contradictory 
 multithreaded discussions to confuse the reader. We use Twiki 
 which also has 
 version control so the original discussions are still there 
 for historical 
 purposes.
 
 Of course, it requires a level of trust and responsibility on 
 the part of the 
 contributers.
 
 As to web forums. One that allows either web or email 
 participation would help 
 get more people involved. To split it across two seems very 
 wasteful to me.
 
 brian wallis...
 
 
 
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[JBoss-dev] July 2003 news

2003-08-07 Thread marc fleury
 professional open source
for the most talented Open Source folks in our industry. Remy is based
out of Toulouse France.

And with that, I am flying back from Florida, fly out tomorrow to NYC
where I talk to financial analysts at a CIBC conference and then out to
California, meeting with partners, customers and potential investors for
2 days before coming back home to Atlanta.  Life on the road. 

Until next time, PLgC
 
Marcf

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RE: [JBoss-dev] Nukes Proposal

2003-07-16 Thread marc fleury
The forums IS the place where it was developed.  Julien is in Paris at
the moment doing consulting, he won't be responsive.   The nukes project
is 100% funded by JBoss Group at this point so we would welcome input
and code for advanced functionality.  You are welcome to build modules
for it as your own project in sourceforge, you will need to market it
yourself and if you are succesful we would fold you back in the JBoss
distribution, or... You can't start contributing right here and we can
see what kind of contribution you make before we go around changing
location and brand.

Regards

marcf 

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 Behalf Of Charles Goodwin
 Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:46 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [JBoss-dev] Nukes Proposal
 
 
 The 'forum' is no place to discuss the development of a CMS 
 such as Nukes.  And Nukes is different enough to JBoss to 
 deserve it's own little place in this world.
 
 I'd like to discuss the creation of another project on 
 SourceForge, where Nukes development occur and a community 
 can grow and become more involved.
 
 My problem with Nukes is that I see potential, and a whole 
 lot of potential.  It feels well designed, with it's 'hot 
 loadable' modular approach.  It has rudimentry versioning and 
 user/group management among it's facets.  It has taken the 
 right approach, but it could go a lot further.
 
 I see the potential to develop Nukes into a true groupware 
 application. 
 No, I'm not talking about Exchange - that's not true 
 groupware, but a glorified mail server.  There are 100s of 
 decent mail servers, any of which could be used.
 
 I'm thinking Document Management, Workflow, Scheduling and 
 Tasks, the real essence of groupware.  And I think that Nukes 
 is a decent foundation for creating this.  Other modules to 
 cover most of the above can be ported from PostNuke.  It can 
 be acheived and it wouldn't be that difficult.
 
 Nukes could become a full Groupware server with a CMS, as 
 opposed to a CMS with some slightly Groupware aspects as it is now.
 
 There are issues that need to be addressed.  Off the top of my head:
 
  o  Nukes needs to be decoupled from JSP until the only JSP 
 stuff is that
 in the JSP integration module.  JSP should be one of many optional
 gateways for communicating with the Nukes server.  This 
 would allow
 for specific communication modules (IMAP, iCalender, CAP) 
 as well as
 other general ones (XMLRPC).
 
  o  The versioning needs to be decoupled from the HTML so it 
 can be made
 more generic.
 
 A little bit more ambition and Nukes could develop into 
 something amazing.  Does anybody else agree with me on that?  
 I'd like to work *with* the JBoss crew on doing anything, I'd 
 rather not have to fork off Nukes myself.
 
 By the way, if you do believe this is possible, Nukes should 
 gain it's own identity by being renamed (Nukes obviously 
 being derived from PostNuke) to something else: 'Synergy' perhaps?
 
 - Charlie
 
 The future of webapps - www.xwt.org
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] Nukes Proposal

2003-07-16 Thread marc fleury
Yes, obviously thanks bill

marcf

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 marc fleury wrote:
 
  distribution, or... You can't start contributing right here 
 and we can 
  see what kind of contribution you make before we go around changing 
  location and brand.
 Typo, You can start contributing to the nukes project here...
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] new resource for jboss developers and users

2003-07-11 Thread marc fleury
We will be working with webm and ROB to include these reports on the
www.jboss.org to aggregate all of our platform builds.  Stay tuned as we
work out the kinks.  Yes murphy's law second addendum is that it always
raises its ugly head at the worst possible moment. 

Thanks for your patience, it is good stuff. 

Regards

marcf


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 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 8:19 AM
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 Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] new resource for jboss developers and users
 
 
 You are correct! :(  Looks like an example of Murphy's Law in 
 action! It works during weeks of preparation and fails when I 
 send out the notice!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Bill Burke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 8:12 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] new resource for jboss developers and users
  
  
  Link doesn't work.  :)
  
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  Behalf Of Rod
   Burgett
   Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 7:56 AM
   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   Subject: [JBoss-dev] new resource for jboss developers and users
  
  
   I'm happy to announce the opening of
  jbossdev.webmethods.com.  We want to
   provide a resource for information on the JBoss testsuite,
  what kind of
   results or errors you might expect on various OS and JVM
  combinations.  It
   is primed with a collection of result sets from 7 
 operating systems.  
   If the combination you use isn't represented, you can post your 
   results.
  
   It's small now but, with your help, we'll grow it.  Check it out.
  
   This website is supported by webMethods, a JBoss partner.
  
  
  
   Rod Burgett
   Senior Software Engineer
  
   webMethods, Inc.
   3930 Pender Drive
   Fairfax, VA  22030  USA
   Ph: 703.460.5819  (tty only)
  
   It's all just 0s  1s -
the trick is getting them lined up in the proper order
  
  
  
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RE: [JBoss-dev] jobs

2003-07-11 Thread marc fleury
Title: Message



sunny 
do me a favor, either post to forums for user help or take out a contract for 
direct developer support. 

Asking 
for user help on the dev list is not appropriate, 

sorry, 


marcf

  
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  Kurakula, SuneethaSent: Friday, July 11, 2003 2:32 
  PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: 
  RE: [JBoss-dev] jobs
  Hi Julien  Others, 
   We are already schronizing Map 
  in Cache . But it didn't help  
  Please give me some more ideas in solving below problem. 
  Thanks, Sunny  
  -Original Message- From: 
  julien viet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 11:28 AM To: Kurakula, Suneetha Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 
  jobs 
  do you synchronize access to your hashmap ? 
  like cache = Collections.synchronizedMap(new 
  HashMap()); 
  Hello Suneetha, 
  Friday, July 11, 2003, 5:25:14 PM, you wrote: 
  KS Hi All,  KS We are using JBOSS as appserver 
  KS We have placed 
  metadata in cache using Hash Map and loading it when KS server is started. KS Cache is working fine for one hour . Problem 
  is after sometime like KS 1hr,2hr 
  inconsistently when we try KS to use cached object from Hash Map it is 
  returning empty object or KS some other value which is not mapped to 
  that key. It is misbehavior.  KS Please send me some info if you have any. I am desperately 
  looking for help  KS 
  Thanks in Advance, KS Sunny 
  -- Best regards, julien 
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RE: c/s JBossMQ status, was: [JBoss-dev] JBossMQ rewrite

2003-07-09 Thread marc fleury
  As you may know, we are going in a different direction with 
 JMS than 
  the original architecture coded by Norbert Lataille.  We 
 are doing a 
  rewrite
 
 I guess I had it good.  Norbert made a good start.  At least 
 basic pub/sub worked.  That's better than starting from scratch.

Enough of this already!  You give credit where credit is due.  Norbert
Lataille did 80% of the work, you and David Maplesden did the 20% needed
for a solid release, but the better than starting from scratch doesn't
give credit. 

 You may be right. or wrong.  The current JMS will ship until 
 there is a better replacement.  Do you plan to replace the 

The current JMS rewrite by Nathan, Adrian, and Bela is going quite well
and we will be replacing the old system in the fall.  Don't work on a
codebase that is going to be retired and needs to live in depracated
mode for awhile.  A refactoring isn't what is needed in the JMS
subsystem. 

As scott asked you, please make sure you communicate with nathan, the
lead on JMS implementation. Otherwise your work will fall by the
wayside.  Also the forums are a good place to sync up or ask for
clarifications.   

marcf  






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RE: [JBoss-dev] Re: Jboss-development digest, Vol 1 #5702 - 9 msgs

2003-07-04 Thread marc fleury
Good idea, consider it done, 

marcf

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 Can we get a JBossDO forum in the dev forums?
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RE: [JBoss-dev] FW: DR2 Freeze on Monday

2003-06-25 Thread marc fleury
Tears in my eyes =*)

  - JBoss AOP XDoclet Integration.  JSR-175 in the present with JDK
  1.4 and JBoss AOP.  From the hard work of Andy Godwin.
  - 1st iteration of JDO.  Thanks to Alex Loubyansky.
  - 1st iteration of JMS rewrite.  Not full-featured yet, but will 
  run JMS over multicast through JavaGroups.  In other words, no 
  app-server middleman for high performance and scalability.  
  Thanks to Nathan Phelps with help from Bela Ban, Tom Elrod, and 
  Adrian Brock.
  - Expanded pointcuts in AOP framework.  per-method, field, and 
  constructor chains.
  - Improved AOP framework performance.

Stage 2 of the 4.0 rocket... Go go go en route to orbit 

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RE: [JBoss-dev] lock errors on commit attempts

2003-06-20 Thread marc fleury
Remember to take out the gloves as you type, 

marcf

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 Behalf Of Juha-P Lindfors
 Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:17 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] lock errors on commit attempts
 
 
 
 Definitely had password problems today. For a moment I 
 thought I had forgotten mine or simply cannot type anymore..
 
 -- Juha
 
 On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Adrian Brock wrote:
 
  Hi Scott,
 
  I've been seeing the same errors
  and it was not accepting my password sometimes.
 
  I was just persistent.
 
  Regards,
  Adrian
 
  
  Adrian Brock
  Director of Support
  Back Office
  JBoss Group, LLC
  
 
 
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   Subject: [JBoss-dev] lock errors on commit attempts
  
  
   Everytime I try to do a commit I'm seeing a failure like the
   following:
  
   cvs server: failed to create lock directory for 
   `/cvsroot/jboss/jbosssx/src/main/org/jboss/security/plugins'
   (/cvsroot/jboss/jbosssx/src/main/org/jboss/security/plugins/#c
   vs.lock):
   Permission denied
   cvs server: lock failed - giving up
   cvs [server aborted]: lock failed - giving up
   cvs commit: saving log message in /tmp/cvsIiqHry
  
   I saw Adrian check in some files recently. Is anyone else seeing 
   this error?
  
   
   Scott Stark
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   JBoss Group, LLC
   
  
  
  
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RE: [JBoss-dev] JBossMQ rewrite

2003-06-16 Thread marc fleury
On the marketing front...

Reloaded for the matrix is a great idea but will have too short a
shelflife :) plus what we are doing is truly revolutionary so... Start
hooking your wagon on that marketing speed train, 

marcf

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 Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] JBossMQ rewrite
 
 
 JBossMQ—the current code base—will continue to ship with 
 JBoss 3.2 which is, and will remain for some time, the 
 production version.  Therefore, making changes to the current 
 code base IS NOT worthless.  However, I am working on a brand 
 new implementation with assistance from Adrian, Bela, Bill, 
 Tom Elrod, and Troy Daley.  The framework code has recently 
 been checked in to the jboss-jms module in CVS.  It is early, 
 but a start.  In addition to the traditional client-server 
 oriented JMS we're working on, at Bela's suggestion, I was 
 able to implement a pure p2p implementation of the JMS topic 
 messaging domain that does non-durable subscribers over 
 JavaGroups. At Bill's request, we're going to get this code 
 out there quickly (July). To my knowledge this will be the 
 first pure p2p (server-less) JMS implementation in open 
 source and it will provide very fast in-firewall publish and 
 subscribe over multicast.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Nathan Phelps
 JMS/JBoss (Reloaded) Project Lead
 JBoss Group, L.L.C.
 
 
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 Subject: [JBoss-dev] JBossMQ rewrite
 
 
 Can  anyone give me some informations about the current state 
 of the announced rewrite of JBossMQ for JBoss 4 ? Does it 
 still make sense to implement needed features on the current 
 JBossMQ implementation ? I don't want to spend time on 
 something that gets nuked in short time :-) 
 
 Regards 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] anybody want to integrate JBoss Remoting?

2003-04-12 Thread marc fleury
I am worried that it is in JMX.  It should be an MBEan with SARS. 

marcf

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 I am too busy finalizing the AOP framework and AOP 
 services(Bela has me doing some tasks for him on cache).  
 Does anybody want to integrate JBoss Remoting into EJB?  If 
 anybody is intersted, please coordinate with me.
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-04-12 Thread marc fleury
 1) POJO pojo = new POJO();
pojo = (POJO)Versioned.makeVersioned(pojo);

That is really pretty tho :)  You need to define the pojo as aspectable
(advisable).

 or
 
 2) Define a constructor-pointcut on the POJO class (I will 
 implement this
 today.)

nice, 

marcf

 Agreed.  A remote proxy must figure out at marshall time how 
 it can comunicate back to the server.

but, but but...

so we are in the AOP remote and we are about to return an object to the
remote caller.  Can the response do 

return AOPRemote.makeRemote(object); ?

So that even the proxy is constructed as needed (meaning when you return?)

marcf

 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-04-12 Thread marc fleury
 If you use versioning on a POJO that is a the top of
 an object graph, will the children objects also be
 versions when they are modified???
 
 I assume No.  But I think it would make sense for your 

correct.

 Versioning interceptor to wrap up children objets with the 
 versioning proxy also when they are accessed. 
 That way if you do a:

not needed on reference work, just recursively instrument all get/set of the
objects in the graph. As a reference of the top node, if we declare the top
one to be advised, we can in fact dynamically instrument the references for
the same acidity, when they are assigned to the class and that recursively.


 
 pojo = (POJO)Versioned.makeVersioned(pojo);
 pojo.getAccount().getBalance().add(10.00);
 
 The modification of the Balance object will be
 versioned too.  Does that make sense to you??  Do you
 do this now??
 

we can as described in my previous mail. getBalance() is a method that does
a setBalance(getBalance+10.00); and we detect that one change and that one
change only.

marcf

 Regards,
 Hiram
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Behalf Of
   Karthik
   Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:25 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID
  objects 1st iteration
  
  
   Hi bill,
  The versioning of POJO is very good. I have
  some issues here. If I
   version a object, then I have to maintain all the
  state in the same POJO
  
  How is this not the general case?  All application
  code accesses the POJO
  through the proxy.  I am going to write a constructor-pointcut that 
  will always return a proxy instead of the real POJO on
  construction.
  
   which is not the general case and will bloat the
  code. The states are
   maintained in the helper classes. Also defining
  each POJO as versioned is
   meaningless. If new proxies are created for each
  transaction with the deep
   copy of all the state or maintain a pool and
  synchronize the state after
   update,  it will become real performance
  bottleneck.How do you tackle this
   problem?
  
  There is only one proxy, but you are correct.  For
  each transaction, a full
  snapshot is taken of the real object.  All access to
  the object is done
  through one proxy.
  
  The performance hit is the full deep copy not the synchronization.
  Synchronization is only:
  
  realObject = snapshot;
  
  Remember, we're optimistically locking here.
  (Although I'd like to
  optionally provide a transactional lock in the near
  future).
  
  The alternative solution is much much more complex.
  The biggest problem
  being, how do you determine when a POJO's state has
  changed?  For instance:
  
  Pojo.someHashMapField.get().setValue(blah).  You see
  my point?
  
  A full deep copy greatly simplifies the code.
  Simplicity == robustness.
  Plus I'm not even sure versioned fields would be
  better performing.  Field
  interception is quite expensive and versioned fields
  would need field
  interception.
  
  The code is under:
  varia/src/main/org/jboss/aop/plugins/Version*.java
  testcase is under
 
 testsuite/src/main/org/jboss/test/aop/bean/Version*.java
  (take a look at the AOP DD under 
  testsuite/src/resource/aop/META-INF/jboss-aop.xml
  too).
  
  Bill
  
  
  
  Correct me if I am missing something.
  
  Where or when can get the code from the CVS?
  
   Thanks
  
   Karthi
  
-Original Message-
From:
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Bill
Burke
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID
  objects 1st iteration
   
   
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From:
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Jeff
 Haynie
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:51 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID
  objects 1st iteration



 JBoss Remoting is much more fabulous.  We
  need to get the
word out on
 it...

 I need to write some darn docs.. Too busy
  trying to get a
new release
 out on our side. Not enough hours in a day.


  I totally agree.  And yes, a constructor
  pointcut is the
way to go.
 The only downside of constructor pointcuts is
  that
reflection bypasses
 the interception!
  Same thing with field interception.  The
  problem is that unlike
 methods, you have to modify the bytecode of
  the calling logic.

 Could you dynamically do an insertBefore into
  the
CtConstructor of the
 advised class which would do the interception,
  even on reflection?

   
I'm not sure...The problem with Versioning and
  Remoting is
that a proxy
object is required.  You have to return a
  different object
than the one
actually constructed.  You getting me?  I'm 

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-04-12 Thread marc fleury
Digging throught that thread and the bela discussion of cache.

 There is only one proxy, but you are correct.  For each
 transaction, a full snapshot is taken of the real object.  
 All access to the object is done through one proxy.

The point being made was that there is another way to do this that I find a
little more intuitive (and it seems to solve the Person.getAddress()
instrumentation problem of bela, done). 

Essentially instrument the get/set methods (eventually field in V2 if we can
do it right) and then you are instrumenting the actual instance.   The
reference you are holding to an object, even if dynamically instrumented
(such as an object inserted in cache) is held, get/set do not require that
you get a new reference. 

Sacha pointed out to me in Paris that using a proxy may be a simpler way for
you to deal with the Remoteness aspect, which does always require this
proxy, I doesn't' help on the server though. 

 The performance hit is the full deep copy not the
 synchronization. Synchronization is only:
 
 realObject = snapshot;
 
 Remember, we're optimistically locking here.  (Although I'd
 like to optionally provide a transactional lock in the near future).

Ok.  Serialization is needed because you are just doing deep copy of the
object (simple I agree).  But in fact we do have the knowledge of state
changes for most basic types/all application types as we make a requirement.
That means that tracking the individual field changes as in CMP2.0 is a
given.  All individual sets should trigger versioning of the individual
fields.  As we realized in the cache discussion with Bela and you this
essentially does away with the serializable requirement.

 The alternative solution is much much more complex.  The
 biggest problem being, how do you determine when a POJO's 
 state has changed?  For instance:
 
 Pojo.someHashMapField.get().setValue(blah).  You see my point?

For most types it is trivial but for Maps.  Adrian has a very simple
solution to this, pitched it in Paris.  In fact he didn't even men.  Simply
overwrite the class in the class pool so that when a CL asks for HashMap()
you really return a JBossHashMap which has the CRUD operations overloaded
(something like that I wasn't really fully there that night, mostly drunk). 

Simple. 

For most POJOS it is trivial.

Meaning that 

pojo.setSomeField(value); 

is an instrumented method with either

/*
* jboss-tag:acid=true
* 
* when david gets around to writing XDoclet in AOP :)
*
*/
public class stuffWeWantACID

which generates the XML description of it
aspects
class name=ACID.Pojo
interceptor name=doTheAcidVersioning pointcut=get*,set* 
/class

We can then trivially acidify the state of that object as originally
imagined and prototyped by Julien at NIST.  Pure bytecode instrumentation of
the actual reference. 

As far as references in the POJO, we also talked about the fact that we
solve the problem by simply recursing through the ACID reference so that a
tree of state, when reaching leaves is trivially serializable and thus
achieving fined grained acidity of the tree state. 

 better performing.  Field interception is quite expensive and
 versioned fields would need field interception.

get/set requirement would trivially solve the problem in first iteration,
field in second.  As we know it is the same class of problem we see in ACID,
Cache and persistence. Simply that we need to instrument get/set on the
code.


marcf

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RE: Why the forums suck (Was: Re: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration)

2003-04-04 Thread marc fleury
\
 What would really help is a forum2email gateway to relay new messages 
 to an email address.
 
 I know that begging for features is not allowed here :) so if it an 
 option to add that as a module to the new nukes stuff then I can help 
 out with that.


OK :)

marcf
 
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[JBoss-dev] JB4DR1 Deadline MAY 26

2003-04-03 Thread marc fleury
Guys, 

We are thinking a lot about the forthcoming JB4 release.  It is a truly
exciting step for us as we believe we will bring a programming style,
whose time has come, to a mass audience. 

AOP as Bill says is a clear wave for system level services on par with
OOP.  On top of it and also as a proof of how powerful the approach is
we still develop a full J2EE server.  Meaning that you can choose to
live in the J2EE world work on JBoss J2EE and access all the prepackaged
AOP goodies as you have been doing since JBoss2.0.  

There seems to be a lot of fear at SUN from what I can tell in the
press, that we will abandon J2EE.  We love J2EE. When really we will
support J2EE for the forthcoming future.  Never do we talk about
abandoning J2EE, we just let the user access core functionality in the
open server and think at the AOP level.  A more fundamental construct of
the framework. 

The reason we are almost there is that it is also a very old
implementation in JBoss.  We have been doing it for a long time but
never talked/packaged it this way.  We make it easy for you to leverage
the AOP layer. The implementation is old the way you interact with JBoss
is new.  It can also be old if you decide to stay at the J2EE level
which will be fully supported.

But you are now invited to roam in the core JBoss system, in fact you
may find it very cozy as you port POJO based applications to JBoss.
There will be a stabilization period though.  We are making an
aggressive push to release JB4 by JavaONE with all our resources
dedicated to implementing the final AOP system aspects and porting some
of the existing code to that.

We're making an aggressive push to release JBoss 4.0 by JavaOne.  We're
targeting May 26th. That leaves us 2 month from now.

I REPEAT TARGET FOR JBOSS4.0 DR1    MAY 26TH 


To meet this aggressive deadline, we need to set some dates.  There will
be a functionality freeze, Monday, May 5th.  All new functionality
commits after May 5th must be approved by either Scott Stark, or Bill
Burke.  We will not branch May 5th, but instead make the month of May,
JBoss 4.0 stability en route to a Developpers Release 1 (DR1).

Please think long and hard and fast about your modules.  Many of you are
involved in core modules that need to move fast in the coming weeks.
Don't be afraid to talk and say who needs help etc. 

PLgC

marcf



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RE: [JBoss-dev] JB4DR1 Deadline MAY 26

2003-04-03 Thread marc fleury


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Dain Sundstrom
 Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 4:01 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] JB4DR1 Deadline MAY 26
 
 
 I think you are delusional if you think JB4 will be ready for JavaOne.

Do you mean JB4 AOP persistence?

Acid, security, transactions, cache (!) are all almost ready.  

Are you saying the new AOP persistence is far from done? What about the
old CMP2.0 engine? 

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RE: [JBoss-dev] JB4DR1 Deadline MAY 26

2003-04-03 Thread marc fleury
1.3 with ongoing development for 1.4

marcf

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Igor Fedorenko
 Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:31 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] JB4DR1 Deadline MAY 26
 
 
 What J2EE specification version are you planning to support 
 in JBoss 4.0? J2EE 1.4 is not final as far as I know...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:47 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sourceforge. Net
  Subject: [JBoss-dev] JB4DR1 Deadline MAY 26
  
  
  Guys,
  
  We are thinking a lot about the forthcoming JB4 release.  It
  is a truly
  exciting step for us as we believe we will bring a 
 programming style,
  whose time has come, to a mass audience. 
  
  AOP as Bill says is a clear wave for system level services 
 on par with 
  OOP.  On top of it and also as a proof of how powerful the 
 approach is 
  we still develop a full J2EE server.  Meaning that you can 
 choose to 
  live in the J2EE world work on JBoss J2EE and access all the 
  prepackaged AOP goodies as you have been doing since JBoss2.0.
  
  There seems to be a lot of fear at SUN from what I can tell in the 
  press, that we will abandon J2EE.  We love J2EE. When 
 really we will 
  support J2EE for the forthcoming future.  Never do we talk about 
  abandoning J2EE, we just let the user access core 
 functionality in 
  the open server and think at the AOP level.  A more fundamental
  construct of
  the framework. 
  
  The reason we are almost there is that it is also a very old 
  implementation in JBoss.  We have been doing it for a long time but 
  never talked/packaged it this way.  We make it easy for you to 
  leverage the AOP layer. The implementation is old the way 
 you interact
  with JBoss
  is new.  It can also be old if you decide to stay at the J2EE level
  which will be fully supported.
  
  But you are now invited to roam in the core JBoss system, 
 in fact you 
  may find it very cozy as you port POJO based applications to JBoss. 
  There will be a stabilization period though.  We are making an 
  aggressive push to release JB4 by JavaONE with all our resources 
  dedicated to implementing the final AOP system aspects and porting 
  some of the existing code to that.
  
  We're making an aggressive push to release JBoss 4.0 by
  JavaOne.  We're
  targeting May 26th. That leaves us 2 month from now.
  
  I REPEAT TARGET FOR JBOSS4.0 DR1    MAY 26TH 
  
  
  To meet this aggressive deadline, we need to set some dates.
  There will
  be a functionality freeze, Monday, May 5th.  All new functionality
  commits after May 5th must be approved by either Scott 
 Stark, or Bill
  Burke.  We will not branch May 5th, but instead make the 
 month of May,
  JBoss 4.0 stability en route to a Developpers Release 1 (DR1).
  
  Please think long and hard and fast about your modules.  Many
  of you are
  involved in core modules that need to move fast in the coming weeks.
  Don't be afraid to talk and say who needs help etc. 
  
  PLgC
  
  marcf
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] How do I clean up these hsqldb shutdown exceptions?

2003-04-02 Thread marc fleury
I gave up on victor about a year ago...

marcf

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 6:28 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] How do I clean up these hsqldb 
 shutdown exceptions?
 
 
 ho ... one is wondering as why this epost conversation ever 
 took place !
 
 Yes - because somebody hussy homestedinding the no-sphere and is not  
 checking bugs in previous LOC also then are expecting (non-paid)  
 peoples to fix the bugs  in that LOC - hoho ___ Peter_f ___ 
 is steaming  
 ...
 
 onsdagen den 2 april 2003 kl 17.15 skrev David Jencks:
 
  Should be fixed in cvs.
 
  There may still be exceptions if you stop the hsqldb mbean 
 while there
  are
  still connections checked out to applications using them, 
 but I don't  
  think
  this is realistic to try to fix at this point.
 
  david jencks
 
  On 2003.04.01 23:06 Scott M Stark wrote:
  There are still two annonying exception generated on 
 shutdown of the 
  server coming from the shutdown of the HypersonicDatabase service. 
  Maybe this is a problem with the lifecycle implementation of this 
  service, or dependency
  ordernig, but it needs to be cleaned up. There is also an 
 NPE in here
  that
  most likely should not be occuring as well.
 
  20:00:42,323 INFO  [MainDeployer] Undeploying 
  file:/C:/usr/JBoss3.2/jboss-3.2/build/output/jboss-3.2
  .0RC5/server/default/deploy/hsqldb-ds.xml
  20:00:42,323 INFO  [HypersonicDatabase] Stopping 
 20:00:42,603 INFO  
  [HypersonicDatabase] Database closed clean 20:00:42,603 INFO  
  [HypersonicDatabase] Stopped 20:00:42,603 INFO  
  [JBossManagedConnectionPool] Stopping 20:00:42,603 INFO  
 [STDOUT] Tue 
  Apr 01 20:00:42 PST 2003 SHUTDOWN :
  System.exit() was not called
  20:00:42,603 INFO  [JBossManagedConnectionPool] Exception 
 destroying 
  ManagedConnection
  org.jboss.resource.JBossResourceException: SQLException; - nested
  throwable: (java.sql.SQLException:
   The database is shutdown in statement [DISCONNECT])
  at
  
 org.jboss.resource.adapter.jdbc.BaseWrapperManagedConnection.c
 heckExce 
  ption(BaseWrapperMa
  nagedConnection.java:445)
  at  
  
 org.jboss.resource.adapter.jdbc.BaseWrapperManagedConnection.d
 estroy(B 
  aseWrapperManagedCo
  nnection.java:229)
  at  
  
 org.jboss.resource.connectionmanager.InternalManagedConnection
 Pool.doD 
  estroy(InternalMana
  gedConnectionPool.java:374)
  at  
  
 org.jboss.resource.connectionmanager.InternalManagedConnection
 Pool.flu 
  sh(InternalManagedC
  onnectionPool.java:272)
  at  
  
 org.jboss.resource.connectionmanager.InternalManagedConnection
 Pool.shu 
  tdown(InternalManag
  edConnectionPool.java:307)
  at  
  
 org.jboss.resource.connectionmanager.JBossManagedConnectionPoo
 l$OnePoo 
  l.shutdown(JBossMan
  agedConnectionPool.java:675)
  at  
  
 org.jboss.resource.connectionmanager.JBossManagedConnectionPoo
 l.stopSe 
  rvice(JBossManagedC
  onnectionPool.java:373)
  at  
  
 org.jboss.system.ServiceMBeanSupport.stop(ServiceMBeanSupport.
 java:236 
  )
  at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
  at  
  
 org.jboss.mx.capability.ReflectedMBeanDispatcher.invoke(Reflec
 tedMBean 
  Dispatcher.java:284
  )
  at  
  
 org.jboss.mx.server.MBeanServerImpl.invoke(MBeanServerImpl.java:549)
  at  
  
 org.jboss.system.ServiceController$ServiceProxy.invoke(Service
 Controll 
  er.java:966)
  at $Proxy11.stop(Unknown Source)
  at  
  org.jboss.system.ServiceController.stop(ServiceController.java:464)
  at  
  org.jboss.system.ServiceController.stop(ServiceController.java:456)
  at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
  at  
  
 org.jboss.mx.capability.ReflectedMBeanDispatcher.invoke(Reflec
 tedMBean 
  Dispatcher.java:284
  )
  at  
  
 org.jboss.mx.server.MBeanServerImpl.invoke(MBeanServerImpl.java:549)
  at  
  org.jboss.mx.util.MBeanProxyExt.invoke(MBeanProxyExt.java:177)
  at $Proxy5.stop(Unknown Source)
  at 
 org.jboss.deployment.SARDeployer.stop(SARDeployer.java:389)
  at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
  at  
  
 org.jboss.mx.capability.ReflectedMBeanDispatcher.invoke(Reflec
 tedMBean 
  Dispatcher.java:284
  )
  at  
  
 org.jboss.mx.server.MBeanServerImpl.invoke(MBeanServerImpl.java:549)
  at  
  
 org.jboss.mx.util.JMXInvocationHandler.invoke(JMXInvocationHan
 dler.jav 
  a:177)
  at $Proxy16.stop(Unknown Source)
  at  
  org.jboss.deployment.XSLSubDeployer.stop(XSLSubDeployer.java:225)
  at  
  org.jboss.deployment.MainDeployer.stop(MainDeployer.java:497)
  at  
  org.jboss.deployment.MainDeployer.undeploy(MainDeployer.java:480)
  at  
  org.jboss.deployment.MainDeployer.shutdown(MainDeployer.java:368)
  at 

RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP security 1st iteration

2003-04-02 Thread marc fleury
nice :)

I think we should also provide massive defaults and provide a

application
security config=appUser/
/application

:)

so we can build some indirection in all this configuration stuff 

marcf

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Bill Burke
 Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:11 PM
 To: Jboss-Dev
 Subject: [JBoss-dev] AOP security 1st iteration
 
 
 Configuration is exactly like J2EE except fields and 
 constructors are added. There's an example under the 
 testsuite.  Here's an XML snippet.
 
 metadata-loader group=security 
 class=org.jboss.aop.security.SecurityClassMetaDataLoader/
 
 advisable class=org.jboss.test.aop.bean.SecurityTester
fieldFilter=NONE
methodFilter=NONE
constructorFilter=NONE /
 
 interceptor-pointcut name=SecurityPointcut
   class=org.jboss.test.aop.bean.SecuredPOJO
   fieldFilter=ALL
   methodFilter=ALL
   constructorFilter=ALL
 
   interceptors
  interceptor name=AuthenticationInterceptor 
 factory=org.jboss.aop.security.AuthenticationInterceptorFactory/
  interceptor name=RoleBasedAuthorizationInterceptor
 factory=org.jboss.aop.security.RoleBasedAuthorizationIntercep
 torFactory/
  interceptor name=RunAsSecurityInterceptor 
 factory=org.jboss.aop.security.RunAsSecurityInterceptorFactory/
   /interceptors
 /interceptor-pointcut
 
 class-metadata name=4568abc group=security 
 class=org.jboss.test.aop.bean.SecuredPOJO
security-domainjava:/jaas/other/security-domain
method-permission
   role-nameallowed/role-name
   method
  method-namesomeMethod/method-name
   /method
/method-permission
method-permission
   unchecked/
   method
  method-nameunchecked/method-name
   /method
/method-permission
field-permission
  role-nameallowed/role-name
  field
 field-namesomeField/field-name
  /field
/field-permission
field-permission
  unchecked/
  field
 field-nameuncheckedField/field-name
  /field
/field-permission
constructor-permission
   unchecked/
   constructor
 constructor-params/
   /constructor
/constructor-permission
constructor-permission
   role-nameallowed/role-name
   constructor
 constructor-params
constructor-paramint/constructor-param
 /constructor-params
   /constructor
/constructor-permission
 
exclude-list
   descriptionMethods that connect be used/description
   method
  method-nameexcluded/method-name
   /method
   field
  field-nameexcludedField/field-name
   /field
   constructor
  constructor-params
 constructor-paramjava.lang.String/constructor-param
  /constructor-params
   /constructor
/exclude-list
 /class-metadata
 
 
 
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RE: Re[9]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-04-01 Thread marc fleury
 I can bend jasper compiler to compile JSP to java classes, 
 I've already done that.

there you go then, 

 However compiling classes is a CLASSPATH nightmare. That's 
 why I would like an in memory compiler. Not anymore.

Stop being such a choupette, it is anoying.  Where is the can-do
attitude? you need something done at the compiler with a massive
classpath WE ALREADY SOLVED THAT PROBLEM FOR JETTY (Jules and Scott
did).  

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RE: [JBoss-dev] jboss web-site issues

2003-03-31 Thread marc fleury
which is Scott's long winded way of saying negative

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 Behalf Of Scott M Stark
 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 3:30 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] jboss web-site issues
 
 
 The 1.3 release of Mozilla is not showing this issue. 
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312
 
 
 Scott Stark
 Chief Technology Officer
 JBoss Group, LLC
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Anatoly Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: JBoss-Dev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:22 PM
 Subject: [JBoss-dev] jboss web-site issues
 
 
  Hello, guys
  
  Since the website was switched to Nukes, Mozilla 1.2 on Win2K
  consistently pops up connection refused. IE6 works fine. 
 Any ideas what 
  is wrong?
  
  -- Anatoly.
 
 
 
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[JBoss-dev] NUKES DEVELOPMENT

2003-03-31 Thread marc fleury
OK, 

guys Nukes from what we can tell is a MASSIVE success.  Well you can't
see it yet, in the sense that it happily runs behind the scenes on
www.jboss.org and the CPU is a .1% utilization (on a new upgraded box
granted).  But by and large it does what we needed it to do which was
copy the framework of postnuke in a scalable fashion (like leveraging
EJB's to cache permissions and pages and bla bla bla). 

SO moving forward I am personally bullying the poor Julien, who will
upgrade to full-time consultant with JBoss Group, to lead the
development of NUKES going forward and to get some documentation as to
how NUKES works and all.  Editing the content online is a blast.
Extremelly relevant stuff. 

In any case. WE NEED NEW MODULES TO GO WITH IT, let's start porting some
of the goodness that is present in postnuke now that we have a scalable
core.  I NEED SOME NEW GUYS that want to make a name for themselves in
porting the forums/instant mail/better blog/ Whatever you think could be
a good module to NUKES.  If you are interested please go to the forum
online and report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

It could be big, if you make it big, please any help appreciated, we
will staff it full time with one guy but we need more help,

marcf

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RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-31 Thread marc fleury


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Bill Burke
 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:52 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
 
 
 I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some 
 other popular Java based web scripting.

JSP is clearly the way to go.  We will fail if we reinvent the scripting
wheel.  Let people port to JBoss with existing pages.  All I hear from
Julien is lame-ass whining on the compiler and such... :) I will
personally work on him in Paris :)

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RE: [JBoss-dev] hsqldb options

2003-03-30 Thread marc fleury
why don't we bring them on then?

marcf

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Bill Burke
 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 1:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] hsqldb options
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
  David Jencks
  Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 10:55 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [JBoss-dev] hsqldb options
 
 
  Prompted by a customer, I did some experiments with hsqldb options.
 
  Currently we specify a tcp port and require a hsqldb mbean to start 
  the hsqldb server.  This opens a port and requires explicit hsqldb 
  shutdown.
 
  Two other options that appear to work are:
 
  specify url jdbc:hsqldb:. and remove the hsqldb mbean.  
 This results 
  in a totally in memory db, nothing saved to disk.  IMO this is 
  appropriate for most of the testsuite since it eliminates problems 
  with data not being cleaned  up between test runs.
 
  specify url jdbc:hsqldb:somefile and remove the hsqldb mbean. This 
  results in the db saved in a couple of files named like 
 somefile.  No 
  port is opened.  No explicit shutdown of hsqldb  seems to 
 be required 
  (although I didn't test how much data is actually saved)
 
  Could someone who knows more about hsqldb  please explain 
 clearly why 
  we would want to continue using the setup we  have now 
 rather than one 
  of the tcp-port free options?
 
 
 
 Man, if only hsqldb was transactional.  We should recruit 
 them to become a JBoss project and put keen transactional 
 minds like David Jencks on the subject.  A fully 
 transactional in-memory DBMS would kick the crap out of 
 everybody in benchmarking.  I'm surprise Oracle 9iAS doesn't 
 run in-process with the Oracle DBMS already
 
 Bill
 
 
 
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RE: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread marc fleury
 cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, 
 i.e get code class - fully generate class - compile it - 
 generate xmbeam - deploy it
 
 pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if 
 we can have bytes of class through unified classloaders but 
 that would help.

We need JSP like scripting for NUKES, otherwise it will be very
difficult to write advanced stuff in it.  

Let's take the forums to drive it. 

marcf




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RE: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming

2003-03-30 Thread marc fleury
julien, 

why don't you try to bring some of these guys in to do the compiler for
NUKES?  JSP like writing for advanced programmatic modules?

marcf

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Dain Sundstrom
 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:06 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
 
 
 I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were 
 interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and 
 got busy on 
 some other stuff.  If anyone is interested in this I can send you the 
 contact info.
 
 -dain
 
 On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 10:37 AM, julien viet wrote:
 
  Hello Marcel,
 
  Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:23:38 PM, you wrote:
 
  MA julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  JD Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was
  more like
  JD PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development
  language
  JD with its rich extensions and apis.
 
  we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished
  having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with
  a java compiler written in java and taking class def from
  a classloader.
 
  That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would 
 be great for 
  nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be modified
  to achieve such results though I don't know about its license.
 
  MA I did this for the PizzaCompiler as part of getting 
 Cocoon to work 
  MA without a JDK (only a JRE needed). For Pizza this is relatively 
  MA easy as it has pluggable resource-loaders (.class files are
  resources
  MA to the compiler). The pizza compiler can be found at:
 
  cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, i.e get 
  code class - fully generate class - compile it - generate xmbeam - 
  deploy it
 
  pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if we can 
  have bytes of class through unified classloaders but that 
 would help.
 
  MA http://pizzacompiler.sourceforge.net/
 
  MA I placed the sources for the pizza-loader and some wrapper and
  extension
  MA classes needed to use it at:
  http://www.artefact.nl/pizza-loader.zip
 
  MA I stripped of some extra's and commented out some lines 
 to keep it 
  MA simple and self hosting.
 
  MA Hope this helps.
 
  MA Regards,
 
  MA Marcel Ammerlaan
 
 
 
  --
  Best regards,
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RE: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] Regarding JBoss site

2003-03-28 Thread marc fleury
I will be contacting the hosters it seems the network is a bit screwed
up
marcf

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 Ok, what can be done to solve that problem? In the end it is slow no 
 matter who's the problem...
 
 /L
 
 fredagen den 28 mars 2003 kl 12.34 skrev julien viet:
 
  application is not slow, the bandwidth is small.
 
  the box is all the time in iddle and the average time for 
 computing a 
  page is 17 ms.
 
  julien.
 
 
 
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RE: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-27 Thread marc fleury
hey hey, let's take it online new site is up with NUKES and it rocks, 

you can see who is on and stuff

marcf

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of julien viet
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:11 AM
 To: Bill Burke
 Subject: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration
 
 
 when I thought about this, I was trying avoir the current construct :
 
 B oldB = a.getB();
 C oldC = a.getC();
 try
 {
a.setB(b);
a.setC(c);
 }
 catch(Throwable t)
 {
a.setB(oldB);
a.setC(oldc);
 }
 
 and I was trying to find a way to make atomic Deployment 
 within deployers. Deploy all or nothing.
 
 Bill, with AOP fwk would that be possible to know how many 
 bytes an object takes effectively ?
 
 ((ObjectStat) pojo).getBytesInMem();
 
 Instrument the pojo to iterates over its fields and computes 
 its memory footprint.
 
 julien
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
  Karthik
  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:25 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration
 
 
  Hi bill,
 The versioning of POJO is very good. I have some issues 
 here. If I 
  version a object, then I have to maintain all the state in 
 the same 
  POJO
 
 BB How is this not the general case?  All application code 
 accesses the 
 BB POJO through the proxy.  I am going to write a 
 constructor-pointcut 
 BB that will always return a proxy instead of the real POJO on 
 BB construction.
 
  which is not the general case and will bloat the code. The 
 states are 
  maintained in the helper classes. Also defining each POJO as 
  versioned is meaningless. If new proxies are created for each 
  transaction with the deep copy of all the state or maintain a pool 
  and synchronize the state after update,  it will become real 
  performance bottleneck.How do you tackle this problem?
 
 BB There is only one proxy, but you are correct.  For each 
 transaction, 
 BB a full snapshot is taken of the real object.  All access to the 
 BB object is done through one proxy.
 
 BB The performance hit is the full deep copy not the 
 synchronization. 
 BB Synchronization is only:
 
 BB realObject = snapshot;
 
 BB Remember, we're optimistically locking here.  (Although 
 I'd like to 
 BB optionally provide a transactional lock in the near future).
 
 BB The alternative solution is much much more complex.  The biggest 
 BB problem being, how do you determine when a POJO's state 
 has changed?  
 BB For instance:
 
 BB Pojo.someHashMapField.get().setValue(blah).  You see my point?
 
 BB A full deep copy greatly simplifies the code.  Simplicity == 
 BB robustness. Plus I'm not even sure versioned fields would 
 be better 
 BB performing.  Field interception is quite expensive and versioned 
 BB fields would need field interception.
 
 BB The code is under:  
 BB varia/src/main/org/jboss/aop/plugins/Version*.java
 BB testcase is under 
 testsuite/src/main/org/jboss/test/aop/bean/Version*.java
 BB (take a look at the AOP DD under
 BB testsuite/src/resource/aop/META-INF/jboss-aop.xml too).
 
 BB Bill
 
 
 
 Correct me if I am missing something.
 
 Where or when can get the code from the CVS?
 
  Thanks
 
  Karthi
 
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   Behalf Of Bill
   Burke
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   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Behalf Of Jeff
Haynie
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 
 1st iteration
   
   
   
JBoss Remoting is much more fabulous.  We need to get the
   word out on
it...
   
I need to write some darn docs.. Too busy trying to get a
   new release
out on our side. Not enough hours in a day.
   
   
 I totally agree.  And yes, a constructor pointcut is the
   way to go.
The only downside of constructor pointcuts is that
   reflection bypasses
the interception!
 Same thing with field interception.  The problem is 
 that unlike
methods, you have to modify the bytecode of the calling logic.
   
Could you dynamically do an insertBefore into the
   CtConstructor of the
advised class which would do the interception, even on 
reflection?
   
  
   I'm not sure...The problem with Versioning and Remoting 
 is that a 
   proxy object is required.  You have to return a different object
   than the one
   actually constructed.  You getting me?  I'm not sure if this
   can be done
   within bytecode manipulation.  I'll have to ask the 
 Javassist guys.
  
 I will write some testcases that put the whole stack 
 together 
 with
constructor pointcuts.

 I'm also working on the concept of 

[JBoss-dev] NUKES on JBoss

2003-03-27 Thread marc fleury
is online, julien delivered and the stuff is running. 

it is stable and fast.  Our machine is sitting at 2% utilization with
cached permissions and stuff.  Nukes on JBoss is real and will be a
fantastic project

marcf

xx
Marc Fleury, Ph.D.
President, Founder
JBoss Group, LLC
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RE: [JBoss-dev] Regarding JBoss site

2003-03-27 Thread marc fleury
Points taken on the website. 

Do you prefer the look though? we are trying the more pro approach.  I
think it sucks but ben my sales guy is all excited about it... what do
you think?  we just released NUKES, the forums were switched and yes we
lost a couple of hours of posts. Apologies and thanks for sending us
broken links and stuff.  

As for the TSS hate it is not hate, it is simple jealousy.  We said
for the first time that we make money and that we share it. 

Put yourself in the shoes of the mediocrity that usually reads/writes
there and he used to sit smug thinking about how DUMB we are because we
do open source and we probably BEG for money and all of the sudden
BM we make money while he struggles to keep his stupid company
afloat. 

Jealousy is a deep reptilian feeling that in fact takes precedence over
common sense. It is a fact of life.  The more success we have the more
we are going to see of that, I mean think MS the biggest and baddest of
them all attracts even more jealousy. 

Meaning: let them be jealous and lets stay the course, we will start
receiving resumes from these mediocrities that never wrote a line of OSS
code in the coming weeks, 

stay the course

marcf
 

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 Behalf Of Lennart Petersson
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:29 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [JBoss-dev] Regarding JBoss site
 
 
 Please would it possible to have JBoss site stabilised? As it is 
 now you never know what it will be like next time surfing 
 there and 
 forum messages that i sent yesterday is now suddenly gone and other 
 threads reports to be updated but they arent And are there really 
 620 guests on-line :)
 
 I know there is development going on but does it have to affect the 
 production site? Especially since there is a lot of JBoss 
 hate going on 
 (look at TSS if you haven't yet) I think there will be a lot 
 of curious 
 people coming surfing and this is not what I want them to see...
 
 /L
 
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] Regarding JBoss site

2003-03-27 Thread marc fleury
you are saying get rid of the ads?

that is not going to be possible right now :)

if it is something more precise let me know

marcf

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 Behalf Of Juha-P Lindfors
 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:24 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Regarding JBoss site
 
 
 
 It's not the new look that is bad (the red bar and the menu) 
 its all the other stuff that blinks worse than your average 
 porn site. An eyesore. Too much stuff that just bounces around.
 
 Looks is good, should continue to apply it to the rest of the 
 stuff. Layout is bad, needs a complete redesign (mostly ads).
 
 -- Juha
 
 On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, marc fleury wrote:
 
  Points taken on the website.
 
  Do you prefer the look though? we are trying the more pro 
 approach.  
  I think it sucks but ben my sales guy is all excited about 
 it... what 
  do you think?  we just released NUKES, the forums were switched and 
  yes we lost a couple of hours of posts. Apologies and thanks for 
  sending us broken links and stuff.
 
  As for the TSS hate it is not hate, it is simple 
 jealousy.  We said 
  for the first time that we make money and that we share it.
 
  Put yourself in the shoes of the mediocrity that usually 
 reads/writes 
  there and he used to sit smug thinking about how DUMB we 
 are because 
  we do open source and we probably BEG for money and all of 
 the sudden 
  BM we make money while he struggles to keep his stupid company 
  afloat.
 
  Jealousy is a deep reptilian feeling that in fact takes precedence 
  over common sense. It is a fact of life.  The more success 
 we have the 
  more we are going to see of that, I mean think MS the biggest and 
  baddest of them all attracts even more jealousy.
 
  Meaning: let them be jealous and lets stay the course, we 
 will start 
  receiving resumes from these mediocrities that never wrote 
 a line of 
  OSS code in the coming weeks,
 
  stay the course
 
  marcf
 
 
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 Behalf Of 
   Lennart Petersson
   Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:29 AM
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   Subject: [JBoss-dev] Regarding JBoss site
  
  
   Please would it possible to have JBoss site 
 stabilised? As it is 
   now you never know what it will be like next time surfing 
 there 
   and forum messages that i sent yesterday is now suddenly gone and 
   other threads reports to be updated but they arent 
 And are there 
   really 620 guests on-line :)
  
   I know there is development going on but does it have to 
 affect the 
   production site? Especially since there is a lot of JBoss 
 hate going 
   on (look at TSS if you haven't yet) I think there will be a lot
   of curious
   people coming surfing and this is not what I want them to see...
  
   /L
  
  
  
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RE: [JBoss-dev] Regarding JBoss site

2003-03-27 Thread marc fleury
OK fine, be specific on where you would put them, 

marcf

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 no I am saying rethink how you lay them out -- having them 
 appear all over the place (top, bottom, several on both 
 sides) like they are now doesn't look very good.
 
 its a layout issue, it sucks
 
 
  On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, marc fleury wrote:
 
  you are saying get rid of the ads?
 
  that is not going to be possible right now :)
 
  if it is something more precise let me know
 
  marcf
 
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread marc fleury
I just want to give credit to Julien Viet as well who pitched that idea
when he was in ATL, 

kudos Bill, you are in orbit, the pings in your head, the code in CVS,
let them fight, let's move 

marcf

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 Behalf Of Bill Burke
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:09 PM
 To: Jboss-Dev
 Subject: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration
 
 
 I have implemented a new AOP service for Serializable POJOs, 
 Versioned Objects.  You can transactionally version an 
 object.  If you modify the object within a transaction, this 
 modification is not seen by other transactions.  If the tx 
 commits, the changes seen, if a rollback happens the changes 
 are rolled back.  On commit, if another tx has modified the 
 object, the tx will rollback (OptimisticLocking).
 
 The way it works is as follows:
 
 POJO pojo = new POJO();
 pojo = (POJO)org.jboss.aop.plugins.Versioned.makeVersioned(pojo);
 
 calling Versioned.makeVersioned creates a proxy that sits in 
 front of the real object.
 
 transactionManager.begin();
 
 pojo.callMethod();
 
 when callMethod is invoked since there is a transaction, an 
 interceptor creates a copy of the REAL pojo and does all 
 further invocations on this copy.
 
 pojo.someField = 5;
 
 If you have field interception turned on, public field will 
 also be accessed via the copy/version
 
 tm.commit();
 
 On commit, a tx Synchronization checks to see if the version 
 you have created is the latest and greatest.  If not an 
 org.jboss.aop.plugins.OptimisticLockFailure exception is 
 thrown in beforeCompletion.  I'm not sure how this exception 
 is wrapped.
 
 Some other semantics:
 
 1. All method invocations force a version to be created.  You 
 can avoid this by declared class-metadata as follows:
 
 class-metadata name=234234 group=VERSIONED 
 class=org.jboss.test.aop.bean.VersionedPOJO
 method name=get.*
   read-onlytrue/read-only
 /method
 /class-metadata
 
 A readonly method will not cause the creation of a version 
 and the current object will be used.
 
 
 An example and unit test is under 
 testsuite/src/main/org/jboss/test/aop/bean/VersionedObjectTester.java
 
 The example object VersionedPOJO.java, has 1 interceptor 
 pointcut declared on the class to do Tx stuff.  See 
 testsuite/src/resources/aop/META-INF/jboss-aop.xml for more details.
 
 What would be nice is to also write a TransactionalLock 
 interceptor for versioned POJO's that have high 
 OptimisticLock failures.
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread marc fleury
second revolution, 

I just can't say how excited I am.

We are doing magic, critical mass.

Julien goes I got a silly idea..

bill makes it real, there is war..

we are doing RAW stuff, and rarely

was I that excited about it all...

you ain't seen nothing yet wankers

PLgC

marcf






 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Bill Burke
 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:09 PM
 To: Jboss-Dev
 Subject: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration
 
 
 I have implemented a new AOP service for Serializable POJOs, 
 Versioned Objects.  You can transactionally version an 
 object.  If you modify the object within a transaction, this 
 modification is not seen by other transactions.  If the tx 
 commits, the changes seen, if a rollback happens the changes 
 are rolled back.  On commit, if another tx has modified the 
 object, the tx will rollback (OptimisticLocking).
 
 The way it works is as follows:
 
 POJO pojo = new POJO();
 pojo = (POJO)org.jboss.aop.plugins.Versioned.makeVersioned(pojo);
 
 calling Versioned.makeVersioned creates a proxy that sits in 
 front of the real object.
 
 transactionManager.begin();
 
 pojo.callMethod();
 
 when callMethod is invoked since there is a transaction, an 
 interceptor creates a copy of the REAL pojo and does all 
 further invocations on this copy.
 
 pojo.someField = 5;
 
 If you have field interception turned on, public field will 
 also be accessed via the copy/version
 
 tm.commit();
 
 On commit, a tx Synchronization checks to see if the version 
 you have created is the latest and greatest.  If not an 
 org.jboss.aop.plugins.OptimisticLockFailure exception is 
 thrown in beforeCompletion.  I'm not sure how this exception 
 is wrapped.
 
 Some other semantics:
 
 1. All method invocations force a version to be created.  You 
 can avoid this by declared class-metadata as follows:
 
 class-metadata name=234234 group=VERSIONED 
 class=org.jboss.test.aop.bean.VersionedPOJO
 method name=get.*
   read-onlytrue/read-only
 /method
 /class-metadata
 
 A readonly method will not cause the creation of a version 
 and the current object will be used.
 
 
 An example and unit test is under 
 testsuite/src/main/org/jboss/test/aop/bean/VersionedObjectTester.java
 
 The example object VersionedPOJO.java, has 1 interceptor 
 pointcut declared on the class to do Tx stuff.  See 
 testsuite/src/resources/aop/META-INF/jboss-aop.xml for more details.
 
 What would be nice is to also write a TransactionalLock 
 interceptor for versioned POJO's that have high 
 OptimisticLock failures.
 
 Bill
 
 
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread marc fleury
 So in the quest to impove J2EE have you killed it?

bla bla bla bla

 marc fleury wrote:
 
 do you motherfuckers realize how BIG this is?

obviously some of you don't get it, give it time, it will become very
obvious

enough wasted time in the U.N. Time for some good ol' action 

marcf



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RE: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration

2003-03-26 Thread marc fleury
The story about the flees was pretty good though, but kind of irrelevant
:)

marcf

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  So in the quest to impove J2EE have you killed it?
 
 bla bla bla bla
 
  marc fleury wrote:
  
  do you motherfuckers realize how BIG this is?
 
 obviously some of you don't get it, give it time, it will 
 become very obvious
 
 enough wasted time in the U.N. Time for some good ol' action 
 
 marcf
 
 
 
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RE: [JBoss-dev] Jboss/David Vs. Sun/Goliath?

2003-03-24 Thread marc fleury
That is precisely correct Dan, 

marcf



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 I have never heard any of the main developers talk about JBoss4 _not_ 
 being J2EE compatible. It has always been my understanding 
 that the AOP 
 framework would form the underpinnings of JBoss4's EJB implementation 
 and be available as a more-flexible, lighter weight API for 
 people who 
 aren't concerned with portability.
 
 Scott, Bill, Marc - can one of you clarify?
 
 thanks,
 danch
 
 Rahul Ganjoo wrote:
  but one of the goals of JBoss 4 is to make it so developers don't 
  have to deal with all the J2EE APIs
  
  from this and the discussion in general.. Jboss4 and J2EE 
 compliance 
  are two entirely different roadmaps (IMHU).. i mean its important 
  for everyone here to know what direction Jboss
  is going to take.. is j2EE compliance important and is 
 Jboss going for
  it..or
  is it keeping up the Jboss4 AOP vision and hence chucking 
 compliance?
  
  
 
 
 
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