[JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature

2002-02-25 Thread Jason Dillon

The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to 
configure, start and stop JBoss.
It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the 
boot footprint small for
limited devices.

This is achieved by seperating server interfaces from implemenation and 
utilizing core java.*
classes to setup access to required boot resources.

That's it.

--jason


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RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature

2002-02-25 Thread marc fleury

Ok 57 congratulations, although you are a bit skimpy on the how

|The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to
|configure, start and stop JBoss.
|It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the
|boot footprint small for
|limited devices.

this is a valid requirement, I understand it and I see the need, it is a new
feature.

go right ahead.

marcf


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Re: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature

2002-02-25 Thread Jason Dillon

I ran out of words for the how.  Such words (probably not limited to 57) 
and more should go into a howto embed JBoss guide...

--jason


marc fleury wrote:

Ok 57 congratulations, although you are a bit skimpy on the how

|The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to
|configure, start and stop JBoss.
|It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the
|boot footprint small for
|limited devices.

this is a valid requirement, I understand it and I see the need, it is a new
feature.

go right ahead.

marcf




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RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature

2002-02-25 Thread Hiram Chirino

I don't get it..  With the Boot class that I commit you can load all of 
JBoss's jar's off the network.  If footprint is all you care about, you wont 
be able to beat the 7k boot.jar (unoptimized with debug).

I just tested the Boot class out, and it can even boot JBoss 2.4.4

So I don't know why you are killing yourself with providing an API to 
startup JBoss.  The only case I find that helpfull would be in the case 
where you don't want to use the configuration system the jboss uses.  Is 
that really what the embeded market is looking for?  What kind of embeded 
are we talking about?

Regards,
Hiram


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Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:55 -0800

Ok 57 congratulations, although you are a bit skimpy on the how

|The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to
|configure, start and stop JBoss.
|It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the
|boot footprint small for
|limited devices.

this is a valid requirement, I understand it and I see the need, it is a 
new
feature.

go right ahead.

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Re: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature

2002-02-25 Thread Hiram Chirino


I don't have it.

From: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 21:35:24 -0800

Please read the email I sent Embedable, ServerLoader, jboss-boor.jar,
logging and more

Or did this not make it to the list?  I can't find it in the forums...

If you still don't get it then I will try to explain in different words.

--jason


Hiram Chirino wrote:

I don't get it..  With the Boot class that I commit you can load all
of JBoss's jar's off the network.  If footprint is all you care about,
you wont be able to beat the 7k boot.jar (unoptimized with debug).

I just tested the Boot class out, and it can even boot JBoss 2.4.4

So I don't know why you are killing yourself with providing an API to
startup JBoss.  The only case I find that helpfull would be in the
case where you don't want to use the configuration system the jboss
uses.  Is that really what the embeded market is looking for?  What
kind of embeded are we talking about?

Regards,
Hiram


From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:55 -0800

Ok 57 congratulations, although you are a bit skimpy on the how

|The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to
|configure, start and stop JBoss.
|It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the
|boot footprint small for
|limited devices.

this is a valid requirement, I understand it and I see the need, it
is a new
feature.

go right ahead.

marcf


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RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature

2002-02-25 Thread marc fleury


|I don't get it..  With the Boot class that I commit you can load all
|of JBoss's jar's off the network.  If footprint is all you care about,
|you wont be able to beat the 7k boot.jar (unoptimized with debug).
|
|I just tested the Boot class out, and it can even boot JBoss 2.4.4
|
|So I don't know why you are killing yourself with providing an API to
|startup JBoss.  The only case I find that helpfull would be in the
|case where you don't want to use the configuration system the jboss
|uses.  Is that really what the embeded market is looking for?  What
|kind of embeded are we talking about?

yeah ok relax... man I stroke one kid and he goes and kicks the other kid.

Dude, open source management is like managing a heard of cats will be my
next unix quote.

The embedability not only in small systems but also OTHER applications
is actually important, it means OEM possibilities and other configurations
(as opposed to command line) and most of the work is done this way by Jason.
That is actually OK.  The acid test was, wow kid you are running left and
right... do you remember what the goal was? and he did.

So before I start dropping, and liquefying online, I will recommend we all
take the chill pill, followed by the respect soup, with a hint of who
cares salt-an-peppa, and a desert it's all for the good of Open Source and
Free Software, and some crazy jewish guy leaving in a hole in SFO.  wow...
too much... too fast... kids flying around... Scott, you there?

I must go ski with you dude... you got it right.

marcf
|
|Regards,
|Hiram
|
|
|From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|To: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
|Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:55 -0800
|
|Ok 57 congratulations, although you are a bit skimpy on the how
|
||The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to
||configure, start and stop JBoss.
||It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the
||boot footprint small for
||limited devices.
|
|this is a valid requirement, I understand it and I see the need, it
|is a new
|feature.
|
|go right ahead.
|
|marcf
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RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature

2002-02-25 Thread Hiram Chirino

Yes, I appoligize if sounded harsh..  I just was not seeing the big picture. 
  All I was hearing was the get it to boot off the network story which is 
WAY different from what you need in the embed in an application case.

Regards,
Hiram

From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:05:28 -0800

 
|I don't get it..  With the Boot class that I commit you can load all
|of JBoss's jar's off the network.  If footprint is all you care about,
|you wont be able to beat the 7k boot.jar (unoptimized with debug).
|
|I just tested the Boot class out, and it can even boot JBoss 2.4.4
|
|So I don't know why you are killing yourself with providing an API to
|startup JBoss.  The only case I find that helpfull would be in the
|case where you don't want to use the configuration system the jboss
|uses.  Is that really what the embeded market is looking for?  What
|kind of embeded are we talking about?

yeah ok relax... man I stroke one kid and he goes and kicks the other kid.

Dude, open source management is like managing a heard of cats will be my
next unix quote.

The embedability not only in small systems but also OTHER applications
is actually important, it means OEM possibilities and other configurations
(as opposed to command line) and most of the work is done this way by 
Jason.
That is actually OK.  The acid test was, wow kid you are running left and
right... do you remember what the goal was? and he did.

So before I start dropping, and liquefying online, I will recommend we all
take the chill pill, followed by the respect soup, with a hint of who
cares salt-an-peppa, and a desert it's all for the good of Open Source 
and
Free Software, and some crazy jewish guy leaving in a hole in SFO.  wow...
too much... too fast... kids flying around... Scott, you there?

I must go ski with you dude... you got it right.

marcf
|
|Regards,
|Hiram
|
|
|From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|To: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
|Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:55 -0800
|
|Ok 57 congratulations, although you are a bit skimpy on the how
|
||The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to
||configure, start and stop JBoss.
||It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the
||boot footprint small for
||limited devices.
|
|this is a valid requirement, I understand it and I see the need, it
|is a new
|feature.
|
|go right ahead.
|
|marcf
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RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature

2002-02-25 Thread marc fleury

ok, 

you kids chill, drop E, come back high as kites and tell each other, 

you are a wonderful human being
no, *you* are a wonderful being
I love you man I love you too 

oka? sour pusses

etc etc


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|I don't have it.
|
|From: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|To: Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
|Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 21:35:24 -0800
|
|Please read the email I sent Embedable, ServerLoader, jboss-boor.jar,
|logging and more
|
|Or did this not make it to the list?  I can't find it in the forums...
|
|If you still don't get it then I will try to explain in different words.
|
|--jason
|
|
|Hiram Chirino wrote:
|
|I don't get it..  With the Boot class that I commit you can load all
|of JBoss's jar's off the network.  If footprint is all you care about,
|you wont be able to beat the 7k boot.jar (unoptimized with debug).
|
|I just tested the Boot class out, and it can even boot JBoss 2.4.4
|
|So I don't know why you are killing yourself with providing an API to
|startup JBoss.  The only case I find that helpfull would be in the
|case where you don't want to use the configuration system the jboss
|uses.  Is that really what the embeded market is looking for?  What
|kind of embeded are we talking about?
|
|Regards,
|Hiram
|
|
|From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|To: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
|Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:55 -0800
|
|Ok 57 congratulations, although you are a bit skimpy on the how
|
||The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to
||configure, start and stop JBoss.
||It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the
||boot footprint small for
||limited devices.
|
|this is a valid requirement, I understand it and I see the need, it
|is a new
|feature.
|
|go right ahead.
|
|marcf
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