[JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to configure, start and stop JBoss. It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the boot footprint small for limited devices. This is achieved by seperating server interfaces from implemenation and utilizing core java.* classes to setup access to required boot resources. That's it. --jason ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
Ok 57 congratulations, although you are a bit skimpy on the how |The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to |configure, start and stop JBoss. |It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the |boot footprint small for |limited devices. this is a valid requirement, I understand it and I see the need, it is a new feature. go right ahead. marcf ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
I ran out of words for the how. Such words (probably not limited to 57) and more should go into a howto embed JBoss guide... --jason marc fleury wrote: Ok 57 congratulations, although you are a bit skimpy on the how |The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to |configure, start and stop JBoss. |It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the |boot footprint small for |limited devices. this is a valid requirement, I understand it and I see the need, it is a new feature. go right ahead. marcf ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
I don't get it.. With the Boot class that I commit you can load all of JBoss's jar's off the network. If footprint is all you care about, you wont be able to beat the 7k boot.jar (unoptimized with debug). I just tested the Boot class out, and it can even boot JBoss 2.4.4 So I don't know why you are killing yourself with providing an API to startup JBoss. The only case I find that helpfull would be in the case where you don't want to use the configuration system the jboss uses. Is that really what the embeded market is looking for? What kind of embeded are we talking about? Regards, Hiram From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:55 -0800 Ok 57 congratulations, although you are a bit skimpy on the how |The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to |configure, start and stop JBoss. |It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the |boot footprint small for |limited devices. this is a valid requirement, I understand it and I see the need, it is a new feature. go right ahead. marcf ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
I don't have it. From: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 21:35:24 -0800 Please read the email I sent Embedable, ServerLoader, jboss-boor.jar, logging and more Or did this not make it to the list? I can't find it in the forums... If you still don't get it then I will try to explain in different words. --jason Hiram Chirino wrote: I don't get it.. With the Boot class that I commit you can load all of JBoss's jar's off the network. If footprint is all you care about, you wont be able to beat the 7k boot.jar (unoptimized with debug). I just tested the Boot class out, and it can even boot JBoss 2.4.4 So I don't know why you are killing yourself with providing an API to startup JBoss. The only case I find that helpfull would be in the case where you don't want to use the configuration system the jboss uses. Is that really what the embeded market is looking for? What kind of embeded are we talking about? Regards, Hiram From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:55 -0800 Ok 57 congratulations, although you are a bit skimpy on the how |The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to |configure, start and stop JBoss. |It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the |boot footprint small for |limited devices. this is a valid requirement, I understand it and I see the need, it is a new feature. go right ahead. marcf ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
|I don't get it.. With the Boot class that I commit you can load all |of JBoss's jar's off the network. If footprint is all you care about, |you wont be able to beat the 7k boot.jar (unoptimized with debug). | |I just tested the Boot class out, and it can even boot JBoss 2.4.4 | |So I don't know why you are killing yourself with providing an API to |startup JBoss. The only case I find that helpfull would be in the |case where you don't want to use the configuration system the jboss |uses. Is that really what the embeded market is looking for? What |kind of embeded are we talking about? yeah ok relax... man I stroke one kid and he goes and kicks the other kid. Dude, open source management is like managing a heard of cats will be my next unix quote. The embedability not only in small systems but also OTHER applications is actually important, it means OEM possibilities and other configurations (as opposed to command line) and most of the work is done this way by Jason. That is actually OK. The acid test was, wow kid you are running left and right... do you remember what the goal was? and he did. So before I start dropping, and liquefying online, I will recommend we all take the chill pill, followed by the respect soup, with a hint of who cares salt-an-peppa, and a desert it's all for the good of Open Source and Free Software, and some crazy jewish guy leaving in a hole in SFO. wow... too much... too fast... kids flying around... Scott, you there? I must go ski with you dude... you got it right. marcf | |Regards, |Hiram | | |From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] |CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature |Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:55 -0800 | |Ok 57 congratulations, although you are a bit skimpy on the how | ||The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to ||configure, start and stop JBoss. ||It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the ||boot footprint small for ||limited devices. | |this is a valid requirement, I understand it and I see the need, it |is a new |feature. | |go right ahead. | |marcf | | |___ |Jboss-development mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development | | | | | |_ |Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com | | | | | | | |_ |MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: |http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx | | |___ |Jboss-development mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
Yes, I appoligize if sounded harsh.. I just was not seeing the big picture. All I was hearing was the get it to boot off the network story which is WAY different from what you need in the embed in an application case. Regards, Hiram From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:05:28 -0800 |I don't get it.. With the Boot class that I commit you can load all |of JBoss's jar's off the network. If footprint is all you care about, |you wont be able to beat the 7k boot.jar (unoptimized with debug). | |I just tested the Boot class out, and it can even boot JBoss 2.4.4 | |So I don't know why you are killing yourself with providing an API to |startup JBoss. The only case I find that helpfull would be in the |case where you don't want to use the configuration system the jboss |uses. Is that really what the embeded market is looking for? What |kind of embeded are we talking about? yeah ok relax... man I stroke one kid and he goes and kicks the other kid. Dude, open source management is like managing a heard of cats will be my next unix quote. The embedability not only in small systems but also OTHER applications is actually important, it means OEM possibilities and other configurations (as opposed to command line) and most of the work is done this way by Jason. That is actually OK. The acid test was, wow kid you are running left and right... do you remember what the goal was? and he did. So before I start dropping, and liquefying online, I will recommend we all take the chill pill, followed by the respect soup, with a hint of who cares salt-an-peppa, and a desert it's all for the good of Open Source and Free Software, and some crazy jewish guy leaving in a hole in SFO. wow... too much... too fast... kids flying around... Scott, you there? I must go ski with you dude... you got it right. marcf | |Regards, |Hiram | | |From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] |CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature |Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:55 -0800 | |Ok 57 congratulations, although you are a bit skimpy on the how | ||The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to ||configure, start and stop JBoss. ||It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the ||boot footprint small for ||limited devices. | |this is a valid requirement, I understand it and I see the need, it |is a new |feature. | |go right ahead. | |marcf | | |___ |Jboss-development mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development | | | | | |_ |Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com | | | | | | | |_ |MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: |http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx | | |___ |Jboss-development mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature
ok, you kids chill, drop E, come back high as kites and tell each other, you are a wonderful human being no, *you* are a wonderful being I love you man I love you too oka? sour pusses etc etc |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hiram |Chirino |Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:39 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature | | | |I don't have it. | |From: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] |CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature |Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 21:35:24 -0800 | |Please read the email I sent Embedable, ServerLoader, jboss-boor.jar, |logging and more | |Or did this not make it to the list? I can't find it in the forums... | |If you still don't get it then I will try to explain in different words. | |--jason | | |Hiram Chirino wrote: | |I don't get it.. With the Boot class that I commit you can load all |of JBoss's jar's off the network. If footprint is all you care about, |you wont be able to beat the 7k boot.jar (unoptimized with debug). | |I just tested the Boot class out, and it can even boot JBoss 2.4.4 | |So I don't know why you are killing yourself with providing an API to |startup JBoss. The only case I find that helpfull would be in the |case where you don't want to use the configuration system the jboss |uses. Is that really what the embeded market is looking for? What |kind of embeded are we talking about? | |Regards, |Hiram | | |From: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: Jason Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] |CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] 57 words... and a signature |Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:08:55 -0800 | |Ok 57 congratulations, although you are a bit skimpy on the how | ||The embedding changes provides integrators with a simple API to ||configure, start and stop JBoss. ||It will allow 99% of resources to be loaded off network, leaving the ||boot footprint small for ||limited devices. | |this is a valid requirement, I understand it and I see the need, it |is a new |feature. | |go right ahead. | |marcf | | |___ |Jboss-development mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development | | | | | |_ |Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com | | | | | | | |_ |MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: |http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx | | |___ |Jboss-development mailing list |[EMAIL PROTECTED] |https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development