Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-27 Thread Peter Fagerlund
hmmm ... allow me to namedrop and spread unverified grapewine info here then ... ThogetherSoft is toying with Eclice as it's runtime framework in upcoming versions ... or was that before Borland ? ... PS: Any right made void as this message is transmitted in a reporting capacity : DS ---

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-27 Thread Jason Dillon
force it to use ant to do all compiles? Seems like that would be best to solve most problems. I've been able to get it to run our ant build files directly. You might have to go into the eclipse properties and add all the tools/lib/*.jar files to the ANT runtime classpath. Do you know if there is

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-27 Thread Hiram Chirino
Well, if you are willing to shell out some cash, then you might consider trying webshpere studio. Since it's built on eclipse, it has all the eclipse goodies plus a ton of other stuff like a jsp editor. Regards, Hiram --- Aleksandr Shneyderman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hate to say this but

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-27 Thread Aleksandr Shneyderman
> Hate to say this but netbeans (www.netbeans.org) beats eclipse hands down. Hate to tell you but that thing is just damn slow. What amazes me is that no matter how much RAM your machine has NetBeans is just always hungry for it. > Does all of the below and lots more. Go take a look at the modu

Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-27 Thread Hans Dockter
Hello Nick, NB> Hate to say this but netbeans (www.netbeans.org) beats eclipse hands down. NB> Does all of the below and lots more. Go take a look at the module selection NB> at www.netbeans.org/devhome and NB> http://www.netbeans.org/devhome/modules/by-module.html NB> There is the full ide and a

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-27 Thread Nick Betteridge
y, February 27, 2003 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... > A major aspect of Programming is mastering complexity. The human mind > can deal only with something like seven entities at once. An important > means to approach a set of entities that is much larger is >

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-27 Thread Hans Dockter
A major aspect of Programming is mastering complexity. The human mind can deal only with something like seven entities at once. An important means to approach a set of entities that is much larger is abstraction. A good IDE reduces the amount of swapping between levels of abstraction tremendously w

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Jason Dillon
I think it is better to use the jars from the module output directory, cause the exact location under build/output will change from version to version. What build/output will change from version to version? The directory name under build/output changes when the version number/tag changes. Is th

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Peter Fagerlund
onsdagen den 26 februari 2003 kl 22.32 skrev Bill Burke: This is one of the very reasons I avoid IDEs. If you don't live in them, you die by them. True ! ... not only of IDEs ... but systems in general !!! ... (ours come to mind) ... motivation is "key" when in a entropy volatile environment

Re: RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Robert HALL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:58 pm Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... > I have been using both and I like IntelliJ much more. Although eclipse > is catching up with the RC1. > > Eclipse 2.1 might compete with IntelliJ 2.5 ( I see lots of eclipse

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread philipborlin
> I think it is better to use the jars from the module output directory, > cause the exact location under build/output will change from version to > version. What build/output will change from version to version? > Is there any way to make Eclipse create jars? Go under the file menu to export.

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Tom Coleman
If you're doing any kind of systems work, you need stable basepoints. For a while, my Sun One Studio was crashing because of driver problem. The problem was known to Sun and scheduled to be fixed in the next release of the JVM. For reasons like that, my favorite development IDE is vi(m). Bil

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Bill Burke
t; Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... > > > > I've tried it various ways.. lately I've been doing > the following: > > - compile source code manualy. > - adjust eclipse build path by: adding the source > folders of sub projects that I will be working

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread philipborlin
n -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Dillon Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... Any reason not to set it up as multiple projects? I have had nothing but success whe

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Hiram Chirino
--- Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it is better to use the jars from the module > output directory, > cause the exact location under build/output will > change from version to > version. > true.. but it's easier to do a multiple selection in 2 or 3 directories rather than go

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Aleksandr Shneyderman
> > Is there any way to make Eclipse create jars? Or any way to make it Export feature > conditionally compile stuff for 1.3 and others for 1.4? Or a way to > force it to use ant to do all compiles? Seems like that would be best > to solve most problems. You can switch between the 1.3 and

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Jason Dillon
I think it is better to use the jars from the module output directory, cause the exact location under build/output will change from version to version. Is there any way to make Eclipse create jars? Or any way to make it conditionally compile stuff for 1.3 and others for 1.4? Or a way to force

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Nathan Phelps
Thanks, Nathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Dillon Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... Any reason not to set it up as multiple projects? I have h

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Tieying Liu
release. -Original Message- From: Jason Dillon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... Any reason not to set it up as multiple projects? I have had nothing but success when

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Dain Sundstrom
Ya, for like 5 minutes. All I really want out of an ide is an editor, syntax highlighting and ant. I can get that from vim, bash and ant. Am I missing some amazing feature. -dain On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 02:24 PM, Jason Dillon wrote: Ahh, but have you tried Eclipse? --jason On T

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Hiram Chirino
I've tried it various ways.. lately I've been doing the following: - compile source code manualy. - adjust eclipse build path by: adding the source folders of sub projects that I will be working with as source folders. (the default is no good) - adjust eclipse build path by: adding all the jar

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Jason Dillon
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... +1 I use it all them time. The Refactoring support and the Quick Assist features rock. Regards, Hiram --- Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can not believe how fast, intelligent and functional this little IDE. I

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Aleksandr Shneyderman
> j2ee.src.main.org.jboss.j2ee, messaging.src.main.org.jboss.mq, etc. I > guess it wants individual projects for each directory? You can checkout the jboss source to work with and create new java project with the link to the directory to which you cvs'd the jboss modules. It will be pretty slow

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Jason Dillon
Any reason not to set it up as multiple projects? I have had nothing but success when connecting Eclipse projects to a checked out jboss-head. --jason On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 02:42 AM, Nathan Phelps wrote: While we're on the subject of Eclipse... Can anyone give me some tips for

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Igor Fedorenko
Is there any particular reason you have to use builtin extssh? I use ext/ssh and am pretty happy with it. > -Original Message- > From: Nathan Phelps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Nathan Phelps
While we're on the subject of Eclipse... Can anyone give me some tips for working with the JBoss source in Eclipse via the built-in extssh client? I can get it all checked out, but then it gets very confused about the package names. It tries to do j2ee.src.main.org.jboss.j2ee, messaging.src.main

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Rhett Aultman
Title: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... The guys around my office (who have never been without some sort of integrated IDE like Delphi or JBuilder) call me the "old UNIX guy" even though I'm only 23.  They were roaring in the aisles the day I told them that Eclipse was

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Dain Sundstrom
on to look at it you enjoy Eclipse...) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hiram Chirino Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... +1 I use it all them time. The Refact

RE: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Jeff Haynie
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hiram Chirino Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing... +1 I use it all them time. The Refactoring support and the Quick Assist features rock. Regards, Hiram --- Jason D

Re: [JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Hiram Chirino
+1 I use it all them time. The Refactoring support and the Quick Assist features rock. Regards, Hiram --- Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can not believe how fast, intelligent and > functional this little IDE. > I have tears in my eyes I am so pleased. Okay > perhaps I need to g

[JBoss-dev] Eclipse is so amazing...

2003-02-26 Thread Jason Dillon
I can not believe how fast, intelligent and functional this little IDE. I have tears in my eyes I am so pleased. Okay perhaps I need to get out more... but still. I think I am going to have to say goodbye to XEmacs. Perhaps I am just getting old and lazy... --jason --