Re: [JBoss-dev] Jboss Boot lib jars

2003-03-08 Thread Jason Dillon
It should be moved to the proper location in the build/output tree then.

--jason

On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 05:52 AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

Obviously not, since it boots w/o it. ;)  It threw me off since it was
in lib/ I just expected that to be the case.
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Is jboss-cache required to boot the server?

--jason

On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 05:21 AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

Because bela's jboss-cache is in lib/ on the build, but not configured

in Main.  So, I had to chase that down a bit before looking at the
source.
Thus, I was wondering why not just take everything in lib/*

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I have no exp. with WebDav so I can not say... but do we want to force

the usage of Webdav?  I personally do not like to force anything.  Why

the concern?

--jason

On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

Ok, this makes sense ..

can't we list even if remote using WebDav?

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The jars which are hardcoded in Main are references to jars which are

required to load up the server.  We can not assume that those jars
are

on the local file system and thus can not query a directory to
discover which jars need to be loaded.
If you would rather not have them hardcoded then perhaps an external
property file would work.  We certainly do not want to be bound to
the

file system again.

--jason

On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 03:40  AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

Is there any reason we need to hardcode the jars that are included
in

the lib directory? (in org.jboss.Main)

Can't we just put all the *.jars under root/lib into the class
loader on boot?
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[JBoss-dev] Jboss Boot lib jars

2003-03-07 Thread Jeff Haynie
Is there any reason we need to hardcode the jars that are included in
the lib directory? (in org.jboss.Main)

Can't we just put all the *.jars under root/lib into the class loader
on boot?
 

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Re: [JBoss-dev] Jboss Boot lib jars

2003-03-07 Thread Jason Dillon
The jars which are hardcoded in Main are references to jars which are 
required to load up the server.  We can not assume that those jars are 
on the local file system and thus can not query a directory to discover 
which jars need to be loaded.

If you would rather not have them hardcoded then perhaps an external 
property file would work.  We certainly do not want to be bound to the 
file system again.

--jason

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Is there any reason we need to hardcode the jars that are included in
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Can't we just put all the *.jars under root/lib into the class loader
on boot?
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Re: [JBoss-dev] Jboss Boot lib jars

2003-03-07 Thread Jason Dillon
I have no exp. with WebDav so I can not say... but do we want to force 
the usage of Webdav?  I personally do not like to force anything.  Why 
the concern?

--jason

On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

Ok, this makes sense ..

can't we list even if remote using WebDav?

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The jars which are hardcoded in Main are references to jars which are
required to load up the server.  We can not assume that those jars are
on the local file system and thus can not query a directory to discover
which jars need to be loaded.
If you would rather not have them hardcoded then perhaps an external
property file would work.  We certainly do not want to be bound to the
file system again.
--jason

On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 03:40  AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

Is there any reason we need to hardcode the jars that are included in
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Can't we just put all the *.jars under root/lib into the class
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Re: [JBoss-dev] Jboss Boot lib jars

2003-03-07 Thread Jason Dillon
Okay I should clarify, least the flames arise, that when it comes to 
flexibility of the system I do not want to make any assumptions about 
how it will be used.

--jason

On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

Ok, this makes sense ..

can't we list even if remote using WebDav?

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The jars which are hardcoded in Main are references to jars which are
required to load up the server.  We can not assume that those jars are
on the local file system and thus can not query a directory to discover
which jars need to be loaded.
If you would rather not have them hardcoded then perhaps an external
property file would work.  We certainly do not want to be bound to the
file system again.
--jason

On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 03:40  AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

Is there any reason we need to hardcode the jars that are included in
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Can't we just put all the *.jars under root/lib into the class
loader on boot?
Jeff



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RE: [JBoss-dev] Jboss Boot lib jars

2003-03-07 Thread Jeff Haynie
Because bela's jboss-cache is in lib/ on the build, but not configured
in Main.  So, I had to chase that down a bit before looking at the
source.

Thus, I was wondering why not just take everything in lib/*

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I have no exp. with WebDav so I can not say... but do we want to force 
the usage of Webdav?  I personally do not like to force anything.  Why 
the concern?

--jason


On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

 Ok, this makes sense ..

 can't we list even if remote using WebDav?

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 The jars which are hardcoded in Main are references to jars which are 
 required to load up the server.  We can not assume that those jars are

 on the local file system and thus can not query a directory to 
 discover which jars need to be loaded.

 If you would rather not have them hardcoded then perhaps an external 
 property file would work.  We certainly do not want to be bound to the

 file system again.

 --jason


 On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 03:40  AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

 Is there any reason we need to hardcode the jars that are included in

 the lib directory? (in org.jboss.Main)

 Can't we just put all the *.jars under root/lib into the class 
 loader on boot?


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Re: [JBoss-dev] Jboss Boot lib jars

2003-03-07 Thread Jason Dillon
Is jboss-cache required to boot the server?

--jason

On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 05:21 AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

Because bela's jboss-cache is in lib/ on the build, but not configured
in Main.  So, I had to chase that down a bit before looking at the
source.
Thus, I was wondering why not just take everything in lib/*

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I have no exp. with WebDav so I can not say... but do we want to force
the usage of Webdav?  I personally do not like to force anything.  Why
the concern?
--jason

On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

Ok, this makes sense ..

can't we list even if remote using WebDav?

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The jars which are hardcoded in Main are references to jars which are
required to load up the server.  We can not assume that those jars are

on the local file system and thus can not query a directory to
discover which jars need to be loaded.
If you would rather not have them hardcoded then perhaps an external
property file would work.  We certainly do not want to be bound to the

file system again.

--jason

On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 03:40  AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

Is there any reason we need to hardcode the jars that are included in

the lib directory? (in org.jboss.Main)

Can't we just put all the *.jars under root/lib into the class
loader on boot?
Jeff



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RE: [JBoss-dev] Jboss Boot lib jars

2003-03-07 Thread Jeff Haynie
Obviously not, since it boots w/o it. ;)  It threw me off since it was
in lib/ I just expected that to be the case.

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Is jboss-cache required to boot the server?

--jason


On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 05:21 AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

 Because bela's jboss-cache is in lib/ on the build, but not configured

 in Main.  So, I had to chase that down a bit before looking at the 
 source.

 Thus, I was wondering why not just take everything in lib/*

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 I have no exp. with WebDav so I can not say... but do we want to force

 the usage of Webdav?  I personally do not like to force anything.  Why

 the concern?

 --jason


 On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

 Ok, this makes sense ..

 can't we list even if remote using WebDav?

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 The jars which are hardcoded in Main are references to jars which are

 required to load up the server.  We can not assume that those jars 
 are

 on the local file system and thus can not query a directory to 
 discover which jars need to be loaded.

 If you would rather not have them hardcoded then perhaps an external 
 property file would work.  We certainly do not want to be bound to 
 the

 file system again.

 --jason


 On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 03:40  AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:

 Is there any reason we need to hardcode the jars that are included 
 in

 the lib directory? (in org.jboss.Main)

 Can't we just put all the *.jars under root/lib into the class 
 loader on boot?


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RE: [JBoss-dev] Jboss Boot lib jars

2003-03-07 Thread Jeremy Boynes
The jars hard-coded in Main and ServerLoader are those needed to boot
the server. These will come from the local filesystem or the netboot
server depending on where you boot from.

The WebDAV client does not come into play until SARDeployer deploys the
intial jboss-service.xml file from conf/ - then, if you are booting from
http:, SARDeployer uses it to list files for wildcarded archives in the
classpath element.

However, the WebDAV code needs to be available to perform that scan
(chicken/egg issue) so the WebDAV libraries have to be explicitly listed
in the server classpath i.e. the lists in Main/ServerLoader. If you are
not netbooting, or are not using wildcards then they can be deleted from
${jboss.home}/lib

It is also used by URLDeploymentScanner, but that's way later.

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 I have no exp. with WebDav so I can not say... but do we want 
 to force 
 the usage of Webdav?  I personally do not like to force 
 anything.  Why 
 the concern?
 
 --jason
 
 
 On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:
 
  Ok, this makes sense ..
 
  can't we list even if remote using WebDav?
 
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  Jason Dillon
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  Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Jboss Boot lib jars
 
 
  The jars which are hardcoded in Main are references to jars 
 which are 
  required to load up the server.  We can not assume that 
 those jars are 
  on the local file system and thus can not query a directory to 
  discover which jars need to be loaded.
 
  If you would rather not have them hardcoded then perhaps an 
 external 
  property file would work.  We certainly do not want to be 
 bound to the 
  file system again.
 
  --jason
 
 
  On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 03:40  AM, Jeff Haynie wrote:
 
  Is there any reason we need to hardcode the jars that are 
 included in 
  the lib directory? (in org.jboss.Main)
 
  Can't we just put all the *.jars under root/lib into the class 
  loader on boot?
 
 
  Jeff
 
 
 
 
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