[JBoss-dev] RE: wsrp integration
[...]/jbpm/bpel and [...]/portal/wsrp seem fine to me Yes, that's fine. neither Portal nor jBPM is an integral component of the Appserver. Whether these components are shipped with the AS binary distribution is one aspect, whether they have automated integration tests is another. The latter is a MUST. Our testsuite has the ability to create specialized jboss configurations, start/stop these configurations and run tests in those configurations. Every component that is expected to work in the AS should have automated integration tests. An integration test is a test that checks whether stuff that you depend on works in the way you expect. How you setup fuctional tests for your component is up to you. Cheers -thomas -Original Message- From: Alejandro Guizar Sent: 24 March 2006 19:56 To: Thomas Diesler; Chris Laprun Cc: Julien Viet; Dev - JBossWS Subject: RE: wsrp integration Thomas, I saw a WSRP folder under testsuite/src/main/org/jboss/test/webservice and testsuite/src/resources/webservice and thought the place for BPEL integration tests should also be there. Does your comment imply that both the WSRP and BPEL tests should be placed elsewhere? If so, what is your suggestion? [...]/jbpm/bpel and [...]/portal/wsrp seem fine to me, except that neither Portal nor jBPM is an integral component of the Appserver. -Alejandro -Original Message- From: Thomas Diesler Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:54 AM To: Chris Laprun Cc: Julien Viet; Anil Saldhana; Dev - JBossWS Subject: RE: wsrp integration The WSRP integration testsuite would probably also have integration tests other than for jbossws. -thomas -Original Message- From: Thomas Diesler Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 10:52 To: Chris Laprun Cc: Julien Viet; Anil Saldhana; Dev - JBossWS Subject: RE: wsrp integration But these tests would still be located in the webservice testsuite though, right? No, WSRP is just another jbossws client and should have its own integration testsuite. xxx Thomas Diesler Web Service Lead JBoss Inc. xxx -Original Message- From: Chris Laprun Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 10:48 To: Thomas Diesler Cc: Julien Viet; Anil Saldhana; Dev - JBossWS Subject: Re: wsrp integration On Mar 24, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Thomas Diesler wrote: IMHO, you need to identify the integration requirements and create for these aspects in the main test suite. WSRP functional aspects do not need to be tested in the main testsuite. I agree. A practical approach would be to create tests when issues actually occur. i.e. you run your wsrp testsuite with jbossws, for every issue you see you create a test in the wsrp integration testsuite. Makes sense in the shorter term. However, complete coverage would be ideal in the long run both for WS and WSRP. There should be a tests-wsrp target in the testsuite that runs the collection of integration tests. wsrp integration tests do not belong in the webservice testsuite. i.e. should not run as part of tests-webservice But these tests would still be located in the webservice testsuite though, right? Best, Chris == JBoss Portal Developer / WSRP Architect --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
[JBoss-dev] Re: wsrp integration
we all agree on that. Thomas Diesler wrote: [...]/jbpm/bpel and [...]/portal/wsrp seem fine to me Yes, that's fine. neither Portal nor jBPM is an integral component of the Appserver. Whether these components are shipped with the AS binary distribution is one aspect, whether they have automated integration tests is another. The latter is a MUST. Our testsuite has the ability to create specialized jboss configurations, start/stop these configurations and run tests in those configurations. Every component that is expected to work in the AS should have automated integration tests. An integration test is a test that checks whether stuff that you depend on works in the way you expect. How you setup fuctional tests for your component is up to you. Cheers -thomas -Original Message- From: Alejandro Guizar Sent: 24 March 2006 19:56 To: Thomas Diesler; Chris Laprun Cc: Julien Viet; Dev - JBossWS Subject: RE: wsrp integration Thomas, I saw a WSRP folder under testsuite/src/main/org/jboss/test/webservice and testsuite/src/resources/webservice and thought the place for BPEL integration tests should also be there. Does your comment imply that both the WSRP and BPEL tests should be placed elsewhere? If so, what is your suggestion? [...]/jbpm/bpel and [...]/portal/wsrp seem fine to me, except that neither Portal nor jBPM is an integral component of the Appserver. -Alejandro -Original Message- From: Thomas Diesler Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:54 AM To: Chris Laprun Cc: Julien Viet; Anil Saldhana; Dev - JBossWS Subject: RE: wsrp integration The WSRP integration testsuite would probably also have integration tests other than for jbossws. -thomas -Original Message- From: Thomas Diesler Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 10:52 To: Chris Laprun Cc: Julien Viet; Anil Saldhana; Dev - JBossWS Subject: RE: wsrp integration But these tests would still be located in the webservice testsuite though, right? No, WSRP is just another jbossws client and should have its own integration testsuite. xxx Thomas Diesler Web Service Lead JBoss Inc. xxx -Original Message- From: Chris Laprun Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 10:48 To: Thomas Diesler Cc: Julien Viet; Anil Saldhana; Dev - JBossWS Subject: Re: wsrp integration On Mar 24, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Thomas Diesler wrote: IMHO, you need to identify the integration requirements and create for these aspects in the main test suite. WSRP functional aspects do not need to be tested in the main testsuite. I agree. A practical approach would be to create tests when issues actually occur. i.e. you run your wsrp testsuite with jbossws, for every issue you see you create a test in the wsrp integration testsuite. Makes sense in the shorter term. However, complete coverage would be ideal in the long run both for WS and WSRP. There should be a tests-wsrp target in the testsuite that runs the collection of integration tests. wsrp integration tests do not belong in the webservice testsuite. i.e. should not run as part of tests-webservice But these tests would still be located in the webservice testsuite though, right? Best, Chris == JBoss Portal Developer / WSRP Architect -- Julien Viet JBoss Portal Project Lead --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list JBoss-Development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
[JBoss-dev] RE: wsrp integration
| Whether these components are shipped with the AS binary | distribution is one aspect, was already agreed: jbpm will not be in the jboss download. | whether they have automated | integration tests is another. The latter is a MUST. was already agreed. | Our testsuite has the ability to create specialized jboss | configurations, start/stop these configurations and run tests | in those configurations. Currently we are working on creating such a configuration in testsuite/build-thirdparty.xml. I still have to take a closer look into the jboss test suite(s?). | Every component that is expected to work in the AS should | have automated integration tests. An integration test is a | test that checks whether stuff that you depend on works in | the way you expect. How you setup fuctional tests for your | component is up to you. agreed as well. regards, tom. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +32 14 880 900 | -Original Message- | From: Thomas Diesler | Sent: zaterdag 25 maart 2006 9:44 | To: Alejandro Guizar; Chris Laprun; Tom Baeyens | Cc: Julien Viet; Dev - JBossWS; | jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net | Subject: RE: wsrp integration | | [...]/jbpm/bpel and [...]/portal/wsrp seem fine to me | | Yes, that's fine. | | neither Portal nor jBPM is an integral component of the Appserver. | | Whether these components are shipped with the AS binary | distribution is one aspect, whether they have automated | integration tests is another. The latter is a MUST. | | Our testsuite has the ability to create specialized jboss | configurations, start/stop these configurations and run tests | in those configurations. | | Every component that is expected to work in the AS should | have automated integration tests. An integration test is a | test that checks whether stuff that you depend on works in | the way you expect. How you setup fuctional tests for your | component is up to you. | | Cheers | -thomas | | -Original Message- | From: Alejandro Guizar | Sent: 24 March 2006 19:56 | To: Thomas Diesler; Chris Laprun | Cc: Julien Viet; Dev - JBossWS | Subject: RE: wsrp integration | | Thomas, | | I saw a WSRP folder under | testsuite/src/main/org/jboss/test/webservice | and testsuite/src/resources/webservice and thought the | place for BPEL | integration tests should also be there. | | Does your comment imply that both the WSRP and BPEL tests should be | placed elsewhere? If so, what is your suggestion? | [...]/jbpm/bpel and | [...]/portal/wsrp seem fine to me, except that neither | Portal nor jBPM | is an integral component of the Appserver. | | -Alejandro | | -Original Message- | From: Thomas Diesler | Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:54 AM | To: Chris Laprun | Cc: Julien Viet; Anil Saldhana; Dev - JBossWS | Subject: RE: wsrp integration | | | The WSRP integration testsuite would probably also have | integration | tests | other than for jbossws. | | -thomas | | | -Original Message- | From: Thomas Diesler | Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 10:52 | To: Chris Laprun | Cc: Julien Viet; Anil Saldhana; Dev - JBossWS | Subject: RE: wsrp integration | | | But these tests would still be located in the | webservice testsuite | though, right? | | No, WSRP is just another jbossws client and should have its own | integration testsuite. | | xxx | Thomas Diesler | Web Service Lead | JBoss Inc. | xxx | | | -Original Message- | From: Chris Laprun | Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 10:48 | To: Thomas Diesler | Cc: Julien Viet; Anil Saldhana; Dev - JBossWS | Subject: Re: wsrp integration | | | On Mar 24, 2006, at 4:17 AM, Thomas Diesler wrote: | |IMHO, you need to identify the integration requirements and | create for |these aspects in the main test suite. WSRP functional | aspects do not |need to be tested in the main testsuite. | | I agree. | |A practical approach would be to create tests when issues |actually occur. i.e. you run your wsrp testsuite with | jbossws, |for | every issue |you see you create a test in the wsrp integration testsuite. | | Makes sense in the shorter term. However, complete | coverage would | be ideal in the long run both for WS and WSRP. | |There should be a tests-wsrp target in the testsuite | that runs |the collection of integration tests. wsrp integration tests do | not belong |in the webservice testsuite. i.e. should not run as part of |tests-webservice | | But these tests would still be located in the | webservice testsuite | though, right? | | Best, | Chris | | == | JBoss Portal Developer / WSRP Architect | | | | | --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends
