Sisters, IT IS only semantics that hinder Us --- sometimes ... Please Imagine : *- Step One - Somebody walks into and "hook" (ethernet / wire / Radio / ?) a device into the "area" - then the DCHP server of that "area - able -net" would deliver a IP to my "mobile(maybe to become static)" host ! ... and a JINI identity (personality) exchange would take place ... **- Step Two - In Our concern here - I would then, start a "seed" of JBoss, and throughout self-discovery, it would then d-load the "latest" version of JBoss into my "mobile(or to become static)" host ! ... coool ... That's a JINI scenario ... *** What We want (except being seduced by the concept of --- self-discovery) is a less expedite host in the cluster - unless explicitly asked for ...We want !? ... to use JavaGroups Broadcast, since it is more solid / valid !? for Our purpose ... *** So ... Now ... Broadcast as a concept is ~blurry~ - when used - in conjunction with the net !, born in television. We have tried and just "swamp" the net (Broadcast = everybody --- "thats" 32 million + addresses in ip4) ... Broadcast on the net is a last century academic "wet" pleasure ***still it can be used by Our product (semantics) ... in that a broadcast with a TTL (Time To Live) of 0 would not go pass the first router sent from ... this, could then be called a narrowcast ... (-while using a broadcast - a "oxymoron" -heh) hmmmm ... oki - a broadcast inside my router spans TTL, would have all my machines inside that TTL's network layer to revive and look at all the packets sent/broadcasted/narrowcasted ... these packets *is* valid for my JBoss cluster ! (who is going to live inside my routed routed TTL anyway ? ). I am here imagining the JBoss cluster living inside a controlled routed c-net !? ... and broadcast with a TTL of 0 will be relevant for Me !? ... Look at any routed net (ethernet) and one will find alot of "noice" thats not relevant for my networklayers service - but my networklayer and its service has to look at it before it can say : - drop - service - warn and there is still time ! to service the packets that has relevance ... What i am trying to say in thatn many words is - that a controlled broadcast is useful ... and not limiting at all ... !!! ... ;-) /peter_f _______________________________________________ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development